[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
i do apologize that i reply so late, but from what daniel t chen said i understood that this is not a bug in my soundcard but kind of unnatural behaviour of the pulseaudio sliders for 5.1 sound on all the soundcards -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
in the way how it behaves now you can't control loudness of subwoofer at all. because if you change subwoofer volume the volume of all the other speakers changes too. not all the people have accessible hardware volume controls you know -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
not all the people have accessible hardware volume controls you know Sorry, but what does this have to do with your bug report? .. if you can't access the hardware volume control it means that you would hope to control the volume via software volume control.. that's the whole bug about, you can't control subwoofer volume without changing all the other speakers' volume. it takes a lot of fiddling around in order to find the correct ratio Like I said before, add an Ignore stanza. If you need additional assistance, use answers.launchpad.net after reading http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/0090-use-volume-ignore-for-analog-output.patch i applied the patch to my but the subwoofer slider still moves along the output volume slider sometimes also what's worse, i moved my output volume slider all the way to the left and after i moved it back, only rear speakers play! wtf? -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
don't mind the only rear speakers play part, i completely reset pulse audio settings and volume control and all the settings went do default.. but i better not move it all the way to the left again -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
ok, if i understood correctly i was supposed to add [Element LFE] volume = ignore right? but this is stupid, because now even thought i move the subwoofer slider- the volume of it doesn't change at all -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
but this is stupid, because now even thought i move the subwoofer slider- the volume of it doesn't change at all You did just tell PA to ignore, i.e., not touch, the LFE mixer control... so this effect is wanted? but why would i want this? i don't mean to sound harsh but did you even read my posts? -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
but it didn't work! :( your patch made the PA completely ignore the subwoofer mixer control, i did not want this in the picture and posts above i tried to explain that: when you move the global volume control slider it should adjust the volume of the subwoofer like it does, BUT it should not move the slider itself- the slider is there to be static and set the ratio at which should the subwoofer volume be decreased- this is the correct way of handling volume control, not the way it is there right now when you have, for example, speakers with two sliders, one says subwoofer, other says master, when you move the master it does not go messing around with the subwoofer slider- that one stays there- even though the subwoofer volume changes about the code is available - i don't have the expertise to write a software layer for alsa controler, i am a user reporting a bug - i thought you could tell -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
Then what is the point of having a 'Master' control at all? Why not just forget about Master and move the sliders yourself? how can you say such thing and why would you do this? the master is there- to control the global audio output so you wouldn't have to bother with the rest. on the beginning- when you place speakers in your room you only set the ratio of how should the speakers be loud, depending on their position- and then the master controls them all at once automatically (the same way you do with real speaker hardware control) However, be aware that your proposal below is very, very different to how PA behaves (and how PA will be expected to behave)... in this case the `volume controls` inside ubuntu are moving into a very wrong direction for 5.1 users if they keep pulseaudio 2) There is no guarantee it will be what other users want this is pretty much how all the speakers in the world work oh boy i shouldn't have bought these geniuses, i should have just got some speakers with proper expandable hardware volume sliders and then i wouldn't have trouble with volume control on ubuntu. i guess i will have to stick to my old windows xp where it works properly but the way how the volume control for 5.1 in ubuntu behaves now is not correct, nor user friendly -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
thanks for the suggestions, but it did not help i tried configuring load-module module-alsa-sink control=PCM but it didn't help. the sound became all shuttery and weird and there is now no control bar for subwoofer at all. every other control disappeared and there is only left/right BTW, if i understood correctly, module-alsa-sink removes all the sliders and adds only single one.. but i want to have controls for my subwoofer..or am i getting it wrong? where can i find what kind of separate controls can i add under module-alsa-sink? i didn't find any specification on this, so now i only know that i can add control=PCM, control=front and that's all. it would be handy to add controls to all of my channels i am going to apport-collect 501034 right now -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] apport-collect data
Architecture: i386 AudioDevicesInUse: Error: command ['fuser', '-v', '/dev/dsp', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D1c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D2p', '/dev/snd/by-path', '/dev/snd/controlC0', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p', '/dev/snd/seq', '/dev/snd/timer', '/dev/sequencer', '/dev/sequencer2'] failed with exit code 1: Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'CK804'/'NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at irq 22' Mixer name : 'Realtek ALC850 rev 0' Components : 'AC97a:414c4790' Controls : 42 Simple ctrls : 27 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 Package: alsa-driver (not installed) ProcEnviron: SHELL=/bin/bash LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-16.53-generic Uname: Linux 2.6.31-16-generic i686 UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout libvirtd lpadmin plugdev sambashare -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] AlsaDevices.txt
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[Bug 501034] AplayDevices.txt
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[Bug 501034] ArecordDevices.txt
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[Bug 501034] BootDmesg.txt
** Attachment added: BootDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266604/BootDmesg.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Card0.Amixer.values.txt
** Attachment added: Card0.Amixer.values.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266606/Card0.Amixer.values.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.txt
** Attachment added: Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266607/Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] CurrentDmesg.txt
** Attachment added: CurrentDmesg.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266609/CurrentDmesg.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.regs.txt
** Attachment added: Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.regs.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266608/Card0.Codecs.codec97.0.ac97.0.0.regs.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] PciMultimedia.txt
** Attachment added: PciMultimedia.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266610/PciMultimedia.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] UserAsoundrc.txt
** Attachment added: UserAsoundrc.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266611/UserAsoundrc.txt -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] XsessionErrors.txt
** Attachment added: XsessionErrors.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37266612/XsessionErrors.txt ** Tags added: apport-collected -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
if i try to control volume bars at alsamixer the master control doesn't control the master... it slides front speakers only. subwoofer volume doesn't change so yes, the problem still persists. what we see as master in alsamixer termial utility is not master at all i don't know who did this but he got it all wrong. master volume control is global volume- global controls SHOULD affect the global volume (every channel) but leave the specific sliders for the speakers UNTOUCHED -perserving the ratio alsamixer master slider leaves all the other sliders untouched but it controls- i don't even know what it controls, but if i put it to 0 some of the speakers still play the GUI master control at the top of my desktop controls the volume outputs of all of my speakers, but it moves the subwoofer slider. it shouldn't -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
in other words, the problem with termial `alsamixer` is that it has no master control that would act like real master the gui control at the top is almost correct, but it should leave the subwoofer slider alone -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
i know that i sound confusing, therefore i drew a picture explaining how the volume controls should work the picture is saved in attachment or can be accessed online: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9944/howshoulditwork.png ** Attachment added: a picture describing the correct state of volume handling http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37268607/how%20should%20it%20work.png -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
(do not get freaked out, i know that the volume bar is a screenshot from winxp. i took a screenshot from win xp because it's handled correctly there) -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] Re: Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
thanks for the article, now i understand my mistake between percents and dBs and that my terminology of 'master' is not the same as in pulse audio this however doesn't solve the problem i still think that when i move the subwoofer slider it shouldn't move the global volume conrol slider too (and vice versa) -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 501034] [NEW] Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound
Public bug reported: to put it straight, the volume bar for subwoofer/master sound on 5.1 sound in gnome volume control is wrong. the subwoofer moves along with the master control, and this should be not happening. master control is master control- and if that one is down, everything is mute, but all the other speakers have their own bar UNTOUCHED the back/forward left/right controls are correct, only the subwoofer is all screwed up hell, even youtube control bar serves as a better volume control ** Affects: alsa-driver (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Volume Control wrong for 5.1 sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/501034 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
