[Bug 311869] Re: Add driver for Sentelic Touch pad

2009-10-20 Thread sshlyk
Finally found guys who have the same laptop and experience problems with touch 
pad :)
Will give the driver a try later.
Thank you

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[Bug 454496] Re: Touchpad not recognized

2009-10-20 Thread sshlyk
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 311869 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/311869

Thank you for the find

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[Bug 454496] Re: Touchpad not recognized

2009-10-18 Thread sshlyk
I can confirm it on MSI x340

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-05-28 Thread sshlyk
and shame on HP
Now think twice before buying their "linux-friendly" hardware
Booo HP

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:02 PM, juggernaut 
wrote:

> This is great news! Thanks to all of you for your time and effort
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Corruptor1972
>  wrote:
> > I have just applied HP's F16A BIOS to my DV5-1000ea.  This has solved
> > the suspend/resume issue.
> >
> > A BIG thanks to Paul, TJ and all who took time to get involved.
> >
> > --
> > HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301353
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
> > Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> > Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> >
> > Bug description:
> > On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver
> throws a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be
> accessed and the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does
> work and does not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel
> version is the latest 2.6.27-7.
> >
> > * Update 16th of May 2009 * The problem remains unchanged under Ubuntu
> 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope).
> >
> > The initial error message on resume is:
> >
> > btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> > ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> > ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> > ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> > ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> > sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> > PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
> >
> > Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error
> message is as follows:
> >
> > ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> > ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> > ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> > ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> > ata2: SError: { DevExch }
> >
> > There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file
> systems not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those
> yet.
> >
> > I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv5 (1075er) notebook.
> >
> > Rationale:
> >
> > Originally I posted my problem under bug #158050 but later I realised
> that this was for an older kernel version. Then I thought that bug #273323
> would be a better fit, but that has since digressed into a KDE discussion,
> entirely irrelevant to my problem. I've looked at every Intrepid suspend /
> resume bug listed and none are specific to my distribution version, kernel
> version or hardware so I'm starting a new one.
> >
> > * Update 16th of May 2009 * There has been a Kernel Bug Report open on
> this for some time now http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12276
> >
> > * Update 18th of May 2009 * There is also evidence, anecdotal and
> otherwise, to suggest that the same problem is present on HDX and some other
> models of HP laptop.
> >
>
>
> --
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> Ameya Lokare
>
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> HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301353
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> Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver throws
> a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be accessed and
> the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does work and does
> not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel version is
> the latest 2.6.27-7.
>
> * Update 16th of May 2009 * The problem remains unchanged under Ubuntu 9.04
> (Jaunty Jackalope).
>
> The initial error message on resume is:
>
> btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
>
> Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error message
> is as follows:
>
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata2: SError: { DevExch }
>
> There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file systems
> not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those yet.
>
> I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv

[Bug 301353] Fwd: dv5 BIOS 2851715-3961544-0518:1431-AAGENX

2009-05-28 Thread sshlyk
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From: Lester Wade 
Date: Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Subject: dv5 BIOS 2851715-3961544-0518:1431-AAGENX
To: ssh...@gmail.com
Cc: oslo.helpcustom...@lists.hp.com


Hi Sergey,

You wrote:

> I am the owner of a HP dv5 laptop and I have learned that my firmware
> has a bug which is causing me some big problems. My laptop will
> suspend,
> but when it wakes up the hard drive will not reactivate so I need to
> reboot. You can imagine how much of a pain this is on laptop!

Thank you for contacting HP.

You have reached the HP team focused on addressing questions and
feedback from our customers relating to Linux on HP products.

Thank you for the information you supplied.

I have spoken to the BIOS teams and this was indeed a known issue.  A
BIOS update has recently be released to fix this, please visit
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-71090-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&os=2093&product=3759509

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-05-20 Thread sshlyk
That's bad for them.
I decided to stop buying HP computer until they start support linux


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Gaston  wrote:

> The response that I got from HP Total care:
>
> "Thank you for contacting HP Total Care.
>
> I understand that you own an " HP Pavilion dv5-1235dx Entertainment
> Notebook PC " and you have issue with Linux.
>
> Your email has reached the Technical Support Division for Notebooks. We
> will provide technical assistance to customers worldwide. However, we
> are unable to provide any information about any third party
> software(Linux) as we are not trained nor authorized to support such
> queries. I suggest you to contact the software vendor for more
> information on the same. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. I
> hope that you understand.
>
> If you need further assistance, please reply to this message and we will
> be happy to assist you further."
>
> Seems like they think the problem is within GNU/Linux... How can we
> prove it is not?
>
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> Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver throws
> a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be accessed and
> the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does work and does
> not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel version is
> the latest 2.6.27-7.
>
> * Update 16th of May 2009 * The problem remains unchanged under Ubuntu 9.04
> (Jaunty Jackalope).
>
> The initial error message on resume is:
>
> btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
>
> Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error message
> is as follows:
>
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata2: SError: { DevExch }
>
> There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file systems
> not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those yet.
>
> I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv5 (1075er) notebook.
>
> Rationale:
>
> Originally I posted my problem under bug #158050 but later I realised that
> this was for an older kernel version. Then I thought that bug #273323 would
> be a better fit, but that has since digressed into a KDE discussion,
> entirely irrelevant to my problem. I've looked at every Intrepid suspend /
> resume bug listed and none are specific to my distribution version, kernel
> version or hardware so I'm starting a new one.
>
> * Update 16th of May 2009 * There has been a Kernel Bug Report open on this
> for some time now http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12276
>
> * Update 18th of May 2009 * There is also evidence, anecdotal and
> otherwise, to suggest that the same problem is present on HDX and some other
> models of HP laptop.
>

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-05-18 Thread sshlyk
Emailed...

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-03-07 Thread sshlyk
I am pretty sure there is nothing to do with vista. However, as I noticed
lucky AMD owners do not have this problem anymore

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM, yachoo  wrote:

> I've also tried F.14 bios. Didn't work. But when I tried it I saw
> something interesting. When my ubuntu tried to resume and those messages
> where on the screen, one was about error with /dev/sda1. In my case it's
> that partition where is Vista. Maybe it's something related to Vista. Or
> something else... maybe resume would go on if ubuntu would be on first
> partition. Is there anybody with pure install of linux without any other
> system and on first partition of the disk?
>
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301353
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> Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver throws
> a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be accessed and
> the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does work and does
> not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel version is
> the latest 2.6.27-7.
>
> The initial error message on resume is:
>
> btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
>
> Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error message
> is as follows:
>
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata2: SError: { DevExch }
>
> There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file systems
> not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those yet.
>
> I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv5 (1075er) notebook.
>
> Rationale:
>
> Originally I posted my problem under bug #158050 but later I realised that
> this was for an older kernel version. Then I thought that bug #273323 would
> be a better fit, but that has since digressed into a KDE discussion,
> entirely irrelevant to my problem. I've looked at every Intrepid suspend /
> resume bug listed and none are specific to my distribution version, kernel
> version or hardware so I'm starting a new one.
>

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-03-06 Thread sshlyk
HP has BIOS update to F14
Did someone tried this one?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-68741-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&os=2093&product=3744198


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 AM, wollombi  wrote:

> I'm not sure that the .28 kernel will work either.  Someone posting
> earlier tried it without success.  That being said, he did this by
> adding the Jaunty archives and downloading that way instead of compiling
> himself.  Who knows?
>
> I went back to my HP DV6707us that had/has 8.04.1 (all current updates
> applied) on it.  The Kubuntu version of this suspended/resumed just
> fine.  I loaded Ubuntu 8.04.2 and it wouldn't resume.  I think that the
> updated 8.04.1 and the 8.04.2 are using the same kernel, though I don't
> remember for sure (was a couple days ago, and the wife uses that laptop
> now so I'm limited on access).
>
> Anyhow, since it DID work under one version, here are the hardware specs
> again:
> Athlon X64 1.9GHz (512k L2)
> 2 GB RAM
> 160 GB 5400rpm SATA HDD
> nvidia nForce AR chipset
> nvidia gforce go 7150m graphics
>
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> Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver throws
> a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be accessed and
> the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does work and does
> not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel version is
> the latest 2.6.27-7.
>
> The initial error message on resume is:
>
> btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
>
> Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error message
> is as follows:
>
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata2: SError: { DevExch }
>
> There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file systems
> not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those yet.
>
> I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv5 (1075er) notebook.
>
> Rationale:
>
> Originally I posted my problem under bug #158050 but later I realised that
> this was for an older kernel version. Then I thought that bug #273323 would
> be a better fit, but that has since digressed into a KDE discussion,
> entirely irrelevant to my problem. I've looked at every Intrepid suspend /
> resume bug listed and none are specific to my distribution version, kernel
> version or hardware so I'm starting a new one.
>

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Re: [Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-02-28 Thread sshlyk
No luck with i8042.reset on dv5 with Intel processor

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:52 AM, mlaverdiere
wrote:

> I had the same problem at first with my HP Pavilion DV5-1124CA , using
> Intrepid, but now, I can successfully suspend and resume (hibernate has
> always work for me). Here's what I did:
>
> 1. I'm now using kernel 2.26.7.11-generic kernel, as provided in the
> default repositories (and following recommended upgrade on Intrepid).
>
> 2. I'm using the kernel boot option i8042.reset, that must be added to
> the Grub menu.lst file, in /boot/grub.
>
> 3. I'm not sure if it's necessary, but I did a BIOS upgrade, as provided
> by HP (the link here is for my specific model; other DV5 models could
> have a similar upgrade available):
>
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2093&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=ca&lang=en&product=3828098
> ,
>
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> HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301353
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
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> Status in The Linux Kernel: In Progress
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> On resume from suspend in Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) the ATA driver throws
> a series of exceptions, as a result the filesystems can not be accessed and
> the computer needs to be rebooted. Hibernate, however, does work and does
> not have this problem, suspend / resume only. The linux kernel version is
> the latest 2.6.27-7.
>
> The initial error message on resume is:
>
> btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb f7d94a00 failed to resubmit (2)
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x9 t4
> ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
> PM: Device 0:0:0:0; failed to resume: error 65536
>
> Then, as nothing is able function properly, the most repeated error message
> is as follows:
>
> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata1: SError: { DevExch }
> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400 action 0xe frozen
> ata2: irq_stat 0x0040, connection status changed
> ata2: SError: { DevExch }
>
> There are a variety of other error messages thrown about ext3 file systems
> not being to be re-mounted, but I haven't been able to capture those yet.
>
> I'm running a fresh copy of Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), with the latest
> updates, on a reasonably new HP Pavilion dv5 (1075er) notebook.
>
> Rationale:
>
> Originally I posted my problem under bug #158050 but later I realised that
> this was for an older kernel version. Then I thought that bug #273323 would
> be a better fit, but that has since digressed into a KDE discussion,
> entirely irrelevant to my problem. I've looked at every Intrepid suspend /
> resume bug listed and none are specific to my distribution version, kernel
> version or hardware so I'm starting a new one.
>

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-02-08 Thread sshlyk
Can someone else also confirm that bios upgrade for dv5 toF.13 doesn't
fix the problem?

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-01-28 Thread sshlyk
dmes for dv5-1000


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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-01-28 Thread sshlyk
lspci for dv5-1000

Thank you for your work

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2009-01-10 Thread sshlyk
I tried to boot  dv5 laptop with pci=nomsi with Ubuntu 8.10
and suspend did't work

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2008-12-23 Thread sshlyk
/usr/sbin/pm-suspend doesn't work either for HP dv5
same SATA error

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2008-12-17 Thread sshlyk
Right, Vincent, but you are talking about HP servers, not Desktops
HP does not support Linux on Any desktop machine or laptop :(

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2008-12-16 Thread sshlyk
I guess we have to wait for some magic from HP or I am going to sell my new 
laptop I've just bought
Why all this companies hate linux? :( Microsoft b*hes

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2008-12-16 Thread sshlyk
can you believe that HP puts pre-installed OS name(maybe something else)
directly into the BIOS? Way to ruin their business

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[Bug 301353] Re: HP Pavilion dv5: ATA exception on resume from suspend

2008-12-16 Thread sshlyk
I have the same problem

Someone mentioned bios f.21 
I only can see f.21 for dv7. Did someone tried to flash dv5? Probably bad idea 
:)

Can't wait for this bug to be fixed. Resume is the most used feature of
my laptop

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[Bug 158050] Re: Resume from suspend fails on Dell XPS M1330

2008-12-10 Thread sshlyk
pavilion dv5

same problem as described above

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[Bug 91056] Re: [Feisty] synaptic keypad lock button launches KDE or Gnome Help Center

2008-09-18 Thread sshlyk
Same problem. Pretty annoying :)

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[Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

2008-09-15 Thread sshlyk
Spreading the Ubuntu power among my friends

Keep your work up, guys!

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[Bug 228888] Re: screensaver preference's mini-preview overwrites other windows

2008-09-05 Thread sshlyk
I can confirm it also. I am having the same problem in Ubuntu 8.04

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