[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2013-06-20 Thread John Lea
** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 08/10/12 17:53, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Qt lists Light as a choice under font style for the Ubuntu font (along
> with light, regular, medium, bold, italic, italic bold) rather than as a
> separate font.  So it doesn't let you do "bold of Ubuntu Light".

OK. That's the right story for apps which support multiple weights of
the same face, like Scribus, and is great. We were hoping that simpler
apps, word processors etc, would present them as Ubuntu / Ubuntu Light,
two faces with the usual bold / italic / bold-italic options.

Mark

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Qt lists Light as a choice under font style for the Ubuntu font (along
with light, regular, medium, bold, italic, italic bold) rather than as a
separate font.  So it doesn't let you do "bold of Ubuntu Light".

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
The preferred result is that the "bold of Ubuntu Light is Ubuntu
Medium", can you confirm this is the case in Qt apps now?

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-07 Thread Omer Akram
re: comment #43: Subscribed Björn who is the maintainer of LO in Ubuntu
and might be able to help

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-07 Thread Paul Sladen
@Laney & Timo: what is the plan for R if shipping with the diff as
below?  To (a) revert it after release, (b)  hoping to ship the
metadata-renamed .ttfs in perpetuity.

@Dmitry: for clarity, the change appears to have been made by adjusting
the .ttfs rather than source code.  (The are arguments both for and
against this which I'd like to stay out of)

sfddiff --exact {/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-
family/,}Ubuntu-M.ttf

Names
 The family name differs. In 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/Ubuntu-M.ttf it is (Ubuntu Light) 
while in /home/sladen/tmp/asdf/latest/Ubuntu-M.ttf it is (Ubuntu Medium)

sfddiff --exact {/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/,}Ubuntu-
MI.ttf

Names
 The family name differs. In 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/Ubuntu-MI.ttf it is (Ubuntu Light) 
while in /home/sladen/tmp/asdf/latest/Ubuntu-MI.ttf it is (Ubuntu Medium)

Even if I'm not back, my offer stands (as per Qt), in that if somebody
knowing the LO codebase can debug and find me at the appropriate set of
functions/files I can try to offer up a patch.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-07 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
@Mark: The LibreOffice issues should have been fixed in the latest
update (0.80-0ubuntu5), see bug 1054204.

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
There's apparently an issue in FontConfig which affects LibreOffice. I'm
sure it will get settled in the RC period.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Iain Lane
** No longer affects: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu R-series)

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-font-family-sources -
0.80-0ubuntu5

---
ubuntu-font-family-sources (0.80-0ubuntu5) quantal; urgency=low

  [ Timo Jyrinki ]
  * Add modified Ubuntu-M.ttf binary (LP: #1054204)
  * Restore installing Ubuntu-M* (LP: #1048600)

  [ Iain Lane ]
  * Modify Ubuntu-MI.ttf in the same way (set "Family Name"), otherwise Ubuntu
Medium Italic gets selected for Ubuntu Light Italic in LO.
 -- Iain LaneSat, 06 Oct 2012 13:20:49 +0100

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
Thanks for following up in the bug. FTR, the fix for Qt is in the archive and 
we'll test it today to verify it works with the medium weight.  I'm not sure 
what else needs fixing.

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks, Scott.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Won't Fix => Triaged

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Scott, here it is for the record.

The light and medium font are our standard font for all content. Medium
has been bumped from the release multiple times, driving design folk
around the bend because software folk don't address the bug early in the
cycle, then say we're too late. We're not too late. Please include the
medium weight, and crystallize out the relevant software fix from folk
who care about the software.

Mark

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
sabdfl'ing is only relevant on the record.  Mark told me to get this in"
is not sufficient.


** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Triaged => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Reopening the quantal component, the sabdfl suggested we should try
harder to get that in this cycle if possible so we will do that...


** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Won't Fix => Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
Milestone: None => ubuntu-12.10

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-10-04 Thread Stefano Rivera
** Also affects: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu R-series)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu R-series)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu R-series)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Triaged => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-24 Thread Michał Sawicz
Hey,

I've put info about a possible workaround for Qt and packages for testing in 
the related bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/comments/53

The patch itself is in the next comment:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/comments/54

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-21 Thread Kate Stewart
Mark this as open,  due to revert.

** Also affects: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Importance: High
   Status: Fix Released

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Status: Fix Released => Triaged

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-font-family-sources

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-font-family-sources -
0.80-0ubuntu4

---
ubuntu-font-family-sources (0.80-0ubuntu4) quantal; urgency=low

  * Revert (yes, again) the shipping of Medium. It causes too many bugs this
late in the cycle. We'll flop once more at the very start of R cycle. (LP:
#1048600)
 -- Iain LaneFri, 21 Sep 2012 12:51:56 +0100

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
It's a Qt issue, not U1/KDE.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-20 Thread Stéphane Graber
The release team is now considering reverting this change unless the
related bugs (u1/kde) are fixed before we start spinning the first beta2
candidates.

Please debug and fix the known issues or find people who can. Re-opening
the bug for now.

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-20 Thread Iain Lane
20/09 14:56:47  FYI, thanks to the recent "improvements" in the
Ubuntu fonts, Kubuntu is dropping them for Quantal.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-20 Thread Lucazade
all kde apps now use bold fonts :S

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-20 Thread Iain Lane
It makes the U1 control panel use a bold font. (I believe this is the
same as was observed before)

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Iain Lane
I certainly do. I'll advocate for the revert if this causes
insurmountable problems (it's a simple one-line packaging change to not
install the file).

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
So we don't care about regressions?

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-font-family-sources -
0.80-0ubuntu3+console

---
ubuntu-font-family-sources (0.80-0ubuntu3+console) quantal; urgency=low

  * Restore shipping of Medium and Medium Italic for the binary package.
(LP: #1048600)
 -- Paul SladenFri, 14 Sep 2012 12:10:00 +0300

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
What was happening in earlier pre-releases (that shipped Ubuntu medium)
was that all Qt/KDE apps had a bold font (like here:
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/67192564/qt-font-fail.png, it affects U1
control panel for example).

This is not the only issue as people also reported problems with
LibreOffice, for example.

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Re: [Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
I don't know if it's well characterized or not.  Unfortunately, I have
limited connectivity today and can't really look into it.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread Kate Stewart
Is there a good scope of impact on what we'll be breaking with this
known?I've seen the comments in bug 744812 - is that the extent of
it?   or has someone done further testing with it?

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-19 Thread John Lea
** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Importance: Critical => High

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Please don't land this until the Qt issues are addressed.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-18 Thread Felix Geyer
Are there concrete plans on how to fix Qt to deal with this change?

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Sladen
Laney: ta, thanks for that.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-17 Thread Iain Lane
It seems this was approved in comment #3.

Please go ahead.

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-17 Thread Alan Pope
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Wishlist => High

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Jeremy Bicha
+1 from the Docs Team for adding the additional font weight.

On the other hand, I think it's too late to be tweaking the fonts used
in the Dash. Documentation string freeze is still scheduled for next
Thursday which means we must start working on screenshots this weekend.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Sladen
FFe request requires "New" before subscribing 'ubuntu-release'.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Sladen
Thanks for the confirmation John, that the Screenshots are the same and
this proposed patch does *not* by itself change anything visually in the
default Unity experience.  I wouldn't wish the analysis and fixing of
this particular distro-packaging oversight to get side-tracked.

I think the second sentence might fall "Enabling theme- and application-
developers to be more creative in producing innovative human-optimised
interfaces for the default software set shipping in Ubuntu"!   That
would a separate issue, which can be proposed subsequently by the Unity
team, based on its own merits, and with the relevant UIF applications
made to the doc-team.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread John Lea
@popey; the reason that the Dash currently looks no different with the
Medium font installed is that we need to font installed before we change
the font weights in the dash so that we can test.  So once the font is
in we will update the relevant Dash elements.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Sladen
** Description changed:

- The "ubuntu medium" font (see http://font.ubuntu.com/ ) seems to be
- missing from Ubuntu.
+ This is a Feature Freeze Exception for Quantal for the 'ttf-ubuntu-font-
+ family' binary package, which is built from the source package 'ubuntu-
+ font-family-sources'.  The only change would be to restore two '.ttf'
+ font files that were not shipped for the final release of Precise, but
+ which were otherwise continually present in the source package all
+ along.  The two files are the following and together take up 691kB of
+ installed disk space (~337kB compressed on the CD):
  
- This font is required urgently for the 12.10 Dash, it would be much
- appreciated if you could add it to Ubuntu.
+   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/Ubuntu-M.ttf (Ubuntu Medium)
+   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/Ubuntu-MI.ttf (Ubuntu Medium 
Italic)
  
- Thanks!
+ As it stands Ubuntu's Quantal binary package is deficient and contains
+ only a subset of the files that have otherwise been shipped.  This is
+ neither a new upstream version, nor a bugfix-only release, nor a brand
+ new package, but a local distro packaging change.
+ 
+ Benefits:
+  * Shipping complete package, as is expected by our users, particular those 
working in DTP
+  * Enabling theme- and application-developers to be more creative in 
producing innovative human-optimised interfaces for the default software set 
shipping in Ubuntu
+  * Fix version number to not override complete builds of the .deb with this 
copy.
+ 
+ Impacts:
+  * These by itself does not cause a visible change in the default Ubuntu 
interface, ie those that are likely to be covered by the Ubuntu Doc Team's 
screenshots.  It will generally cause a one-, or two-line addition to 
application font selection menus.
+  * ~337kB of CD space.
+  * Impacts of other software;  For completeness, it should be noted there are 
broken applications/toolkits out there: Some tools using toolkits and 
applications make incorrect assumptions that the number of weights in a font 
where there are more than just the "simple four" of 
Regular/Italic/Bold/Bold-Italic.  These applications already behave 
sub-optimally in the case of other advanced multi-weight fonts shipped in 
Ubuntu, such as 'fonts-linuxlibertine'; and this is not the fault of the 
upstream Ubuntu Font Family offering.  Those applications (including Inkscape, 
Unity-2D in the case of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, will remain broken until they and 
their underlying are fixed.
+ 
+ The proposed one-line diff in the attached branch consists of a single-
+ line change to 'debian/*.install':
+ 
+   +Ubuntu-M*.ttf/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family
+ 
+ These two files were dropped prior to the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS release for
+ the benefit of Unity-2D, which is no longer shipped as default.
+ Additionally it was uploaded with version number missing '~medium' thus
+ giving no indication that the package shipped by Ubuntu is incomplete,
+ and additionally causing the version in the distro to override otherwise
+ complete builds of the .deb in PPAs.  This is oversight that it was not
+ reloaded in complete form on the first day of the Q cycle opening.

** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => New

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
On behalf of doc-team we are reviewing this and will provide a response
shortly.

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Sladen
Raised on #ubuntu-doc, requesting comment + subscribed:

  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/14/%23ubuntu-doc.html

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[Bug 1048600] Re: [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Sladen
** Summary changed:

- Add "ubuntu medium" font to Ubuntu
+ [FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb

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