[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2015-02-06 Thread Phillip Susi
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1302418 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1302418

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1302418
   grub-installer should fall back to grub-pc instead of grub-efi when there is 
no EFI system partition

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2015-02-06 Thread Steve Langasek
Erick, it would be helpful if you would attach relevant debug
information as attachments in launchpad, rather than linking to
pastebins.

Your "boot info summary" shows the following menu entry:

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os 
$menuentry_id_option 'osprober-efi-30D8-159A' {
insmod part_gpt
insmod fat
set root='hd0,gpt2'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt2 
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt2  30D8-159A
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 30D8-159A
fi
chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
}

The boot entry /after/ the boot repair seems to be identical:

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os 
$menuentry_id_option 'osprober-efi-30D8-159A' {
insmod part_gpt
insmod fat
set root='hd0,gpt2'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt2 
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt2  30D8-159A
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 30D8-159A
fi
chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
}

So how exactly did the boot fail for you before running the boot repair?

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2015-02-05 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/1050940

** Tags added: iso-testing

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2015-02-05 Thread Erick Brunzell
I assume that's what happened to me while performing my first UEFI Win
8.1 + Ubuntu GNOME dual-boot during 14.04.2 iso-testing on this
hardware:

Intel Motherboard: DB43LD
Intel Pentium Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz
Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 02)
2GB DDR2 RAM

You can read a more detailed hardware summary here:

http://paste.ubuntu.com/10035895/

Boot Repair did easily fix the problem, but before running Boot Repair I
created a boot info summary:

http://paste.ubuntu.com/10048056/

And here's the boot info after repair:

http://paste.ubuntu.com/10048113/

If YannUbuntu is still reading this I'd appreciate knowing if I'm
correct in my assumption. I'm just not tech savvy enough to know from
reading the before and after boot info summaries what's up.

Thanks in advance.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2014-01-07 Thread YannUbuntu
Phillip, your suggestion:

"This could be done by choosing between grub-efi and grub-pc based on
the presence of an existing ESP when performing a side-by-side install,
instead of whether the cd is booted in efi mode or not."

is a very good solution. I hope you can implement it for 14.04.

Best wishes for 2014 !

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2014-01-03 Thread Phillip Susi
The 32 bit cd works because it doesn't support UEFI.  Booting the 64 bit
cd works as long as you do so in bios mode.

I suppose Ubiquity could switch back to bios grub when doing a side-by-
side install, and there's no ESP, even though you have booted the cd in
EFI mode.


** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Triaged

** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
  - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 , Bug #956412
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
  - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
- I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at /sys/firmware/efi (or 
dmesg | grep EFI) to determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. 
AFAIK, dmesg only indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, 
NOT the mode in which the BIOS boots the HDD.
- Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
- 
- (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
- with EFI firmware)
+ This could be done by choosing between grub-efi and grub-pc based on the
+ presence of an existing ESP when performing a side-by-side install,
+ instead of whether the cd is booted in efi mode or not.
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2014-01-03 Thread DaveC
I disagree pretty strongly with the INVALID resolution. One of the key
features of Ubuntu is ease of installation, and it fails without warning
in this case. That's a bug.

One thing I don't grok is why 32-bit worked and 64-bit did not (it is a
64-bit CPU, and the 64-bit CD booted fine, but GRUB choked).

At minimum I'd suggest a pop-up saying "hey, this install may fail to
boot, use 32-bit" or similar. I don't know how hard it is to figure that
out. Alternatively, provide some help and a workaround, e.g. a menu
option in the installer to manually select the correct boot setup.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2014-01-03 Thread Phillip Susi
Installing both won't help since grub-efi can't chain load bios booting
Windows.  There's really nothing we can do to work around this insanity.
You just need to decide if you are going to use uefi or not, and stick
with that decision.


** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2013-01-07 Thread YannUbuntu
What about always installing both grub-pc AND grub-efi ?

(of course grub-pc only if there is no ESP)

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-16 Thread YannUbuntu
> it is a stupid firmware design

I agree. Now, let's make Ubiquity more clever ;)

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-15 Thread Steve Langasek
And BTW, any firmware that provides such a boot menu is certainly not
compliant with the Windows 8 certification requirements, which require
that when Secure Boot is enabled, only signed UEFI applications are
executed.  Booting anything using BIOS mode when SB is enabled is
expressly forbidden.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-15 Thread Steve Langasek
> You forget that the fact that many UEFI firmwares can
> boot on the CD/USB in a different mode than on the HDD.

No, I don't forget that at all; I assert that it is a stupid firmware
design that makes it nearly impossible for an OS vendor to do the right
thing when installing to the hard drive.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-15 Thread YannUbuntu
Following Steve comment #6 on Bug #1015211, here are my thoughts:

> It should be obvious that if the firmware booted the CD under UEFI,
the firmware is UEFI and we should install grub-efi to the install disk
too.

You forget that the fact that many UEFI firmwares can boot on the CD/USB in a 
different mode than on the HDD. I added some examples in 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Setup_the_BIOS_in_EFI_or_Legacy_mode
So if the liveCD/USB is booted in UEFI mode (= /sys/firmware/efi exists when 
running Ubiquity), it does not always imply that the UEFI firmware is setup to 
boot the HDD in UEFI mode.
Among the Boot-Repair users, I saw some Windows installed in Legacy mode (UEFI 
is setup to boot the HDD in Legacy mode), but when the BootInfo report (created 
when booting the Ubuntu CD) showed that there was a /sys/firmware/efi folder 
(so the firmware was booting the CD in UEFI mode).
Eg, such situations can result from the fact that some UEFI firmware try to 
boot the HDD in UEFI mode by default, but if there is no EFI file it then tries 
to boot in Legacy(mbr) mode.
These are not "buggy firmwares".

> we could rearchitect the grub packages so that we are always
installing both grub-efi and grub-pc on all installs

This is a good idea, but IMHO not for all cases, let me explain:
The difficulty we have is that when installing Ubuntu (= when we are in live 
session), we can't know if the firmware is setup to boot the HDD in UEFI or in 
Legacy mode.
However, we know that:
1) if there is an ESP with Windows EFI file, and no Legacy Windows boot files 
(bootmgr+boot/BCD), the firmware is setup to boot the HDD in UEFI mode, so 
Ubiquity must install grub-efi
2) if there is an ESP without Windows EFI file, and Legacy Windows boot files 
(bootmgr+boot/BCD), the firmware is setup to boot the HDD in Legacy mode, so 
Ubiquity has to install grub-pc.
3) if there is an ESP with Windows EFI file, and Legacy Windows boot files 
(bootmgr+boot/BCD), the firmware is probably setup to boot the HDD in UEFI 
mode, so Ubiquity must install grub-efi. But here i think Ubiquity should also 
install grub-pc by security, in case the firmware is setup to boot in Legacy 
mode.

Hope this helps making Ubiquity better.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-15 Thread YannUbuntu
** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
- - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 , Bug #956412 
+ - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 , Bug #956412
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
  - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
- I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at dmesg | grep EFI to 
determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. AFAIK, dmesg only 
indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, NOT the mode in 
which the BIOS boots the HDD.
+ I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at /sys/firmware/efi (or 
dmesg | grep EFI) to determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. 
AFAIK, dmesg only indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, 
NOT the mode in which the BIOS boots the HDD.
  Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
  
  (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
  with EFI firmware)
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-10-05 Thread YannUbuntu
Another case: http://askubuntu.com/questions/196192

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-09-21 Thread YannUbuntu
** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
- - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 ,
+ - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 , Bug #956412 
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
  - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
  I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at dmesg | grep EFI to 
determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. AFAIK, dmesg only 
indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, NOT the mode in 
which the BIOS boots the HDD.
  Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
  
  (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
  with EFI firmware)
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-09-18 Thread YannUbuntu
** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
  - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 ,
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
- - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example where Windows was installed in both EFI and Legacy modes: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
+ - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
  I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at dmesg | grep EFI to 
determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. AFAIK, dmesg only 
indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, NOT the mode in 
which the BIOS boots the HDD.
  Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
  
  (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
  with EFI firmware)
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-09-18 Thread YannUbuntu
** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
  - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 ,
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
- - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode.
+ - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
  I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at dmesg | grep EFI to 
determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. AFAIK, dmesg only 
indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, NOT the mode in 
which the BIOS boots the HDD.
  Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
  
  (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
  with EFI firmware)
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

** Description changed:

  Currently, Ubiquity sometimes fails creating a correct Windows dualboot when:
  - either it installs Ubuntu in EFI mode when Windows is installed in Legacy 
mode ( examples: Bug #908109 , Bug #959446 ,
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12238420#post12238420 )
- - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
+ - or it installs Ubuntu in Legacy (not-EFI) mode when Windows is installed in 
EFI mode. ( example where Windows was installed in both EFI and Legacy modes: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246811&postcount=6 )
  
  In order to create a correct dualboot, Ubiquity should always install
  Ubuntu in the same mode as Windows.
  
  I think the deep problem is that Ubiquity only looks at dmesg | grep EFI to 
determine if it is going to install in EFI mode or not. AFAIK, dmesg only 
indicates the mode in which the BIOS boots the live media, NOT the mode in 
which the BIOS boots the HDD.
  Remark: currently Ubuntu32bit is not EFI compatible (see Bug #102 ), so 
Ubiquity32bit will always install in Legacy mode (which allowed the OP of Bug 
#908109 to workaround the current bug).
  
  (this problem is more and more frequent as new computers generally come
  with EFI firmware)
  
  *** WORKAROUND: using Boot-Repair to convert Ubuntu in the same 
mode as Windows.
  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-09-16 Thread YannUbuntu
Bug #998097 may be a duplicate.

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[Bug 1050940] Re: Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc <-> grub-efi)

2012-09-14 Thread YannUbuntu
** Summary changed:

- Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (wrong 
Ubuntu mode)
+ Ubiquity fails creating a correct Windows dualboot on EFI computers (grub-pc 
<-> grub-efi)

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