[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
I managed to get this problem by creating a little partition - sda2 in the list below - trying to make use of that 'unused' space. This worked well enough when grub was on a regular partition, but it does not work when setting up /boot and grub on a LVM. The fix was to delete the partition with fdisk and run partprobe. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *204815624191 7811072 83 Linux /dev/sda2 31727 862+ 83 Linux /dev/sda315624192 625142447 3047591285 Extended /dev/sda515624195 625142447 304759126+ 8e Linux LVM It would be good for grub to display there are 3 sectors before the first partition available for core.img, and we need 65 (or whatever the case is) rather than to only say that the core image is large - it's not particularly large. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
Escalation won't particularly help as this is just plain difficult to fix: there's no single cause for the code growing beyond the relevant size, but rather gradual accretion of bug-fixes has meant the code is now just slightly larger than will fit. I don't regard LVM or RAID as exotic, and in that case this is a regression; they're close enough to the size limit that we may be able to squeeze things back down again in a future upstream version, but it will take some slow and steady work. btrfs and ZFS are over the size limit by a very considerable margin, and it is unlikely that we will ever be able to squeeze support for those into 62 sectors. They were never there in the first place, so in that case this isn't a regression. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
This bug is especially bad for people installing ubuntu as a secondary os on a windows system. Some factory windows installs do not leave space at the beginning of the hdd beyond the 62 sectors. I hope this observation might get this bug escalated. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
Such a setup wouldn't be hit by this problem; it is only exotic setups that require things like raid or lvm that won't fit in 62 sectors. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
Stating that either LVM or RAID are exotic is simply bullshit. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
And BTW it's not only LVM or RAID that suffer from this issue, but also BTRFS installs, ZFS installs... Everything that is a bit more complex than ext3/4 on plain good ol'e DOS disk partitions... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
I have a msdos partition table though. Not GPT. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
@ YannUbuntu Bug #1066324 is a duplicate of this one. At the bottom of that bug it says to comment under this one. I have that same issue but also using 12.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
I have this issue also, trying to upgrade Xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 on a machine that uses LVM but not RAID. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
That is incorrect Swami. The bios_grub partition is required when using GPT, and 1MB is quite sufficient either for it, or for the embed area before the first partition on an MBR partitioned disk. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
BTRFS support takes a larger disk space, so you either must leave a couple (say 4) MB of free space between the start of he disk and first partition, or create a small BIOS GRUB partition there (that you don't mount or otherwise use, grub will take care of it). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
Possible duplicate: Bug #1066324 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
I tried installing both 12.04 and 12.10 using BTRFS for both / and /home and Grub failed to install with each of them. Tried on both my Netbook as well as my test rig(P4). When I dig a little deeper, it seems Grub complains about core.img being unusually large. An interesting observation I made today though. On my test rig I have a number of installations of numerous distros. Havent fired this up in a couple of years mind you so I still had the Lucid development install as the latest on herelol. On the box I had a install of Fedora 13(which was the latest stable at the time IIRC) on BTRFS. Installed as both / and /home. Fedora 13 still had legacy Grub and I remember Lucid with Grub2 not being able to boot Fedora 13. Well last night I replaced the Lucid install with 12.04 on Ext4(since BTRFS wounldn't work) and then today decided to check if Fedora would boot. Sure enough it boots! So I KNOW they can play nice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
So not sure what has changed in Grub2 between Lucid and Quantal but its strange that it will boot F13 just fine but not a current Ubuntu version on BTRFS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
When you say partitioning disk with modern tools... ok, let's said we have modern tools on 12.04.1 boot CD (that is not really the case since LVM and RAID are only on alternate CD... why ? is libre-office more relevant than a complete installing system ?) When a disk is double partitionned, for example LVM over RAID, did it need to partition from the basement, that meens RAID level, or only the top final partitions, LVM level ? If it needs to partition from the low level, and if it is not going to be fixed, I think it will need a tool, a script or whatever to get around this bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
** Tags added: karmic natty oneiric precise quantal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
4) LVM ok on 10.04, KO on 12.04 -- regression ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/196246 ) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1059827] Re: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas
Looking at current duplicates show only 3 cases : 1) Bug #491740 : disk with abnormally small (32kb) embed area. GRUB Legacy OK , GRUB2 KO -- regression 2) Bug #1004376 : RAID+LVM : 10.04 ok , 12.04 KO -- regression 3) BTRFS: KO on 11.04 (Bugs #782543 , #781010 , #774217) KO on 11.10 (Bug #885264 , #881342 , #879109 , #873392 , #842247 , #813259 , #800840) KO on 12.04 (Bugs #990558 , #988848 , #953559 , #945449 , #928128 , #917212 ), KO on 12.10 (Bug #1045178) --- not a regression, unless we show it worked with a previous version of GRUB. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059827 Title: Non trival grub2 installs no longer fit in small embed areas To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1059827/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
