[Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
See also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12341635 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
On 13 November 2012 21:40, v1nce <1077...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I don't agree. I don't know if this is because of french translation but the > text is clearly misleading to me. > > mysql-server-5.5: ... > Depends: mysql-client-5.5 (>= 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) mais > la version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 est installée > > can be read (by me) as > > You try to update(*) mysql-server-5.5. To do this, you need to install > first mysql-client-5.5 in a version that is above 5.5.24... but (you > can't do it because) version 5.5.28... is (already) installed. > > So (for me) it reads as the apt doesn't understand that 5.5.28 > 5.5.24. You are right, I didn't read the version numbers well enough. It does seem that apt is confused about the first few, the only dependency that is a problem is mysql-server-core-5.5. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
> The only issue here really is that apt proceeded with the operation even though it would fail due to disk space. I believe this is already reported, and the situation is unlikely to improve much because this is something very hard for apt to *properly* check. (Now) I understand that. Before a daily update I was warned that there was not enough disk space to install all packages. So I tried to split the installation by choosing only some packages. So, yes, I think I can put the blame on me and not onto the apt app. > The first part uses the packaging dependency format as this is the best way to convey exactly which dependency causes the problem, and what it's requirements are. Although not the most correct for natural language, it does read well enough, and changing it is undesirable because that may lead to ambiguity and make the task of diagnosing problems (for packagers, developers, people familiar with that syntax) a bit slower. I don't agree. I don't know if this is because of french translation but the text is clearly misleading to me. mysql-server-5.5: ... Depends: mysql-client-5.5 (>= 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) mais la version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 est installée can be read (by me) as You try to update(*) mysql-server-5.5. To do this, you need to install first mysql-client-5.5 in a version that is above 5.5.24... but (you can't do it because) version 5.5.28... is (already) installed. So (for me) it reads as the apt doesn't understand that 5.5.28 > 5.5.24. I think plain text would be easier to read for anybody (unless there are apps that grep the output of aptcommand ?). At least for (unexperienced) reporters. May be a switch for a compact display for 'power users' (*) with no more information this is what I read(/expect). From the detailed error I guess the real error occured when trying to (re)configure the sqlserver (what I didn't ask for) So I think that at least AFTER THE FAULTY PACKAGE NAME THERE SHOULD BE AN INDICATION OF WHAT ACTION FAILED. Was it installation, removal, update, configuration of installed package, cleaning after removal... Just my 2 cents. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
On 12 November 2012 21:05, v1nce <1077...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I'm not sure but I think I tried apt-get install -f before manual > installation (with no luck). > Now when I run apt-get install -f it's ok (0,0,0). > > I don't really understand what it complained for as I got all the > "missing" packages (maybe except for upstart-job (I don't know how to > query virtual package)). Although older versions of those packages are installed, the updated mysql-server states that it requires the more recent versions, as indicated by the error: mysql-server-5.5: PreDepends: mysql-common (>= 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) mais la version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 est installée Depends: mysql-client-5.5 (>= 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) mais la version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 est installée The newer packages downloaded (you see them in /var/cache/apt), but failed to install, presumably due to the disk space error. > > I looked at mysql and it was up and running after reboot so i think my > command was rather safe. The dpkg command is unsafe is because it ignores the package dependencies. The program may actually run with the older packages, and there may not even be any problems, but this can generally not be assumed, otherwise it would not require particular versions of those packages. > > I know this was a poor bug report (I should have waited before > trying to fix it myself) so it can be closed anytime because I > consider it fixed. I am glad that you fixed your system. The only issue here really is that apt proceeded with the operation even though it would fail due to disk space. I believe this is already reported, and the situation is unlikely to improve much because this is something very hard for apt to *properly* check. Generally, it is up to the system administrator to keep disk space issues under control. Software can not reliably do this for you. > I reported it because the message 'Depends: foo (>= x) but version y > is installed' looks odd to me The first part uses the packaging dependency format as this is the best way to convey exactly which dependency causes the problem, and what it's requirements are. Although not the most correct for natural language, it does read well enough, and changing it is undesirable because that may lead to ambiguity and make the task of diagnosing problems (for packagers, developers, people familiar with that syntax) a bit slower. Regards -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
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[Bug 1077740] Re: error after running out of disk
I'm not sure but I think I tried apt-get install -f before manual installation (with no luck). Now when I run apt-get install -f it's ok (0,0,0). I don't really understand what it complained for as I got all the "missing" packages (maybe except for upstart-job (I don't know how to query virtual package)). I looked at mysql and it was up and running after reboot so i think my command was rather safe. I know this was a poor bug report (I should have waited before trying to fix it myself) so it can be closed anytime because I consider it fixed. I reported it because the message 'Depends: foo (>= x) but version y is installed' looks odd to me -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077740 Title: error after running out of disk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1077740/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
