[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Oh yes, I forgot to add my $0.02 Critical system services should have a warning popup in this case. >This service should not be available to the average user I agree, But I'm not average, and need I the access. There needs to be a global setting for "Expert, Power User, Novice" user interface levels, like Xine had. Ubuntu is in danger of getting too dumbed down already. I've burned a couple of hundred man hours since installing "Jaunty" tracking down and working around the various and sundry "safety" and "security" features, in order to get my development work done. Please do not install more default "naderers", without identifying them and providing an off switch. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Fix as reached Jaunty for some time. I don't understand the ever-lasting debate here guys. If you're brave (or dumb) enough to says yes to the warning dialog, then you can't complain that your system broke. I could possibly make that warning even more frightening,t hough, and I will consider that. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Oh yes, I forgot to add my $0.02 Critical system services should have a warning popup in this case. >This service should not be available to the average user I agree, But I'm not average, and need I the access. There needs to be a global setting for "Expert, Power User, Novice" user interface levels, like Xine had. Ubuntu is in danger of getting too dumbed down already. I've burned a couple of hundred man hours since installing "Jaunty" tracking down and working around the various and sundry "safety" and "security" features, in order to get my development work done. Please do not install more default "naderers", without identifying them and providing an off switch. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Fix as reached Jaunty for some time. I don't understand the ever-lasting debate here guys. If you're brave (or dumb) enough to says yes to the warning dialog, then you can't complain that your system broke. I could possibly make that warning even more frightening,t hough, and I will consider that. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Fix as reached Jaunty for some time. I don't understand the ever-lasting debate here guys. If you're brave (or dumb) enough to says yes to the warning dialog, then you can't complain that your system broke. I could possibly make that warning even more frightening,t hough, and I will consider that. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Oh yes, I forgot to add my $0.02 Critical system services should have a warning popup in this case. >This service should not be available to the average user I agree, But I'm not average, and need I the access. There needs to be a global setting for "Expert, Power User, Novice" user interface levels, like Xine had. Ubuntu is in danger of getting too dumbed down already. I've burned a couple of hundred man hours since installing "Jaunty" tracking down and working around the various and sundry "safety" and "security" features, in order to get my development work done. Please do not install more default "naderers", without identifying them and providing an off switch. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Fix as reached Jaunty for some time. I don't understand the ever-lasting debate here guys. If you're brave (or dumb) enough to says yes to the warning dialog, then you can't complain that your system broke. I could possibly make that warning even more frightening,t hough, and I will consider that. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Oh yes, I forgot to add my $0.02 Critical system services should have a warning popup in this case. >This service should not be available to the average user I agree, But I'm not average, and need I the access. There needs to be a global setting for "Expert, Power User, Novice" user interface levels, like Xine had. Ubuntu is in danger of getting too dumbed down already. I've burned a couple of hundred man hours since installing "Jaunty" tracking down and working around the various and sundry "safety" and "security" features, in order to get my development work done. Please do not install more default "naderers", without identifying them and providing an off switch. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Oh yes, I forgot to add my $0.02 Critical system services should have a warning popup in this case. >This service should not be available to the average user I agree, But I'm not average, and need I the access. There needs to be a global setting for "Expert, Power User, Novice" user interface levels, like Xine had. Ubuntu is in danger of getting too dumbed down already. I've burned a couple of hundred man hours since installing "Jaunty" tracking down and working around the various and sundry "safety" and "security" features, in order to get my development work done. Please do not install more default "naderers", without identifying them and providing an off switch. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Fix as reached Jaunty for some time. I don't understand the ever-lasting debate here guys. If you're brave (or dumb) enough to says yes to the warning dialog, then you can't complain that your system broke. I could possibly make that warning even more frightening,t hough, and I will consider that. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst Status: New => Fix Released -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
This has been fixed upstream, thanks you. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I confime this bug when I was trying stop unnecessary service ( for security reasons ) ( I unmarked because don't show any warning I was safe to make this modification ) I used from terminal( root) services-admin ( I think from kubuntu) -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
> I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is > manually > restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, > thus won't > save the fact that dbus must be started. I had this problem too, but logging out and then back in again solved it: the Unlock button became re-enabled in services-admin, and I was able to re-check dbus after unlocking the dialog. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I found myself stuck in the same problem today, excepts that once dbus is manually restarted, policykit won't let me use the services-main GUI applications, thus won't save the fact that dbus must be started. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just locked myself out today, fixed it okay, but glad it won't happen in future. Thanks! -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gst (upstream) Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Followup: there's a lot of messages in various forums that look like the same general problem, with people proposing solutions like reinstalling various sets of packages. In the interest of getting someone something up for people searching for the same problem... the workaround is to run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re-run services-admin and re-enable dbus. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Thanks for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 ** Also affects: rebuntu (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: gst (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Importance: Unknown => Undecided Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #440416 => None Status: Unknown => Unconfirmed ** Changed in: rebuntu (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I have too discovered this problem on both 8.10 & 9.04. I have not found a fix for 8.10. I was able to fix 9.04 using the following procedure: 1. Press the 'ESC' key during GRUB at start up. 2. Choose the "Recovery Mode" kernel option for your version of Ubuntu 3. When the "Recovery Menu" is displayed, choose "Drop to root shell prompt" 4. Type the following commands into the shell: ln -s /etc/init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus exit 5. When the "Recovery Menu" is redisplayed, choose "Resume normal boot" I think the reason that this is being ignored is that this thread is a link to Gnome's Bugzilla service. That link seems to be malfunctioning. I have manually entered a comment on that service. Hopefully, we will get something done about this now. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440416 -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Unfortunately the fix mentioned does not always work, at least on 8.04 I tried to apply the fix: run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" then re- run services-admin and re-enable dbus on running gksudo services-admin I get ** (services-admin:6299) CRITICAL **: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct And... once again teh fatal.. the configuration could not be loaded. Once dbus is stopped, for whatever reason, the network and other items needed to upgrade or get repairs become innaccessible/unusable. Essentially, stopping this servcie is immediately unrecoverable and will force me to apply a complete re-installation of Ubuntu. Why not just mark it with "Click here to waste three hours hunting obscure configuration defects and then enjoy a full re-install, kiss your data goodbye" I have tried to follow the debate and direction being attempted here and frankly it seems like a poorly thought out hack being forced in during migration to 8.10. At the very least stopping dbus should come with a warning that the user will probably have to perform a re-install to get a usable system again. This is extremely poor design and needs a decent fix asap... I love where Ubuntu is going, but this kind of "screw the user mantrap" really sucks. Steve -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
I just killed a perfectly good Ubuntu 9.04 by unchecking the Service DBUS by accident...had to do a complete reinstall. This service should not be available to the average user. -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 112102] Re: Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services
Why can't you boot from any Linux CD, mount the affected file system, and fix the rc.d links from there ? Just asking -- Too easy to accidentally kill dbus from Services settings and lock yourself out of services https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112102 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
