Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
On 08/31/2009 04:56 AM, pyrates wrote: > Some day its gonna be fixed? It's been 16 years. I can tell you what > prevents me from using Linux is bugs exactly like this where the > developer thinks its fine but 99% of users do not think it's fine. it's > a bug. Fix it already. I don't care if its gonna take a lot of work, > I'd like it fixed. Making excuses doesn't make up for the fact it's a > bug, and a major one at that due to a design decision made in 1993. > > I can tell you I won't be using linux until the developers behind it > start taking it seriously by fixing major design problems just like > this. Audio and video is another one and just being able to install a > driver/module in linux is another one. What good is open source > software if it doesn't work correctly? > as said by someone above if you cant wait or you want it fixed right away please provide a patch to fix it. If you can not fix it yourself or choose not to than it has to wait for someone to patch it. You do know Ubuntu hasn't been around since 1993. Since you saw this on other versions of Linux most likely is due to upstream, please ask them to fix it if you can not -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 "How can i get lost, if i have no where to go" -- Metallica from Unforgiven III -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
The discussions on this bug report are becoming irrevelant and turning into personal attacks. This bug report has the relevant information, just needs some attention from developers . There is no need to add a comment here which does not provide *useful* information to fix this bug. To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear this in mind. Thanks! ** Project changed: hundredpapercuts => null -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Some day its gonna be fixed? It's been 16 years. I can tell you what prevents me from using Linux is bugs exactly like this where the developer thinks its fine but 99% of users do not think it's fine. it's a bug. Fix it already. I don't care if its gonna take a lot of work, I'd like it fixed. Making excuses doesn't make up for the fact it's a bug, and a major one at that due to a design decision made in 1993. I can tell you I won't be using linux until the developers behind it start taking it seriously by fixing major design problems just like this. Audio and video is another one and just being able to install a driver/module in linux is another one. What good is open source software if it doesn't work correctly? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Patrick, while I also would like to see this big fixed I have to point out that your rant is wrong on all counts. Software in general has bugs that sometimes goes back years without getting fixed. Proprietary software has the very same problem. To sell updates it needs new features. So updates get rushed out with old bugs and plenty new features. If you look around you'll easily find many examples of this. Many open source programmers *are* paid - by IBM, Novell, Red Hat, Canonical, Intel and many other corporations with an interest in Linux. I also find this bug annoying - but it is not of the "highest priority" IMHO - especially as a workaround has been available for years: glipper/klipper. And lastly I can't agree that this is the reason why not more people use desktop Linux. The primary reasons are that people can't pick a game in a shop and be reasonably certain that their shiny new shrink wrap game works right away. Similar for legacy apps in corporations. And most people still don't even know that it exists. I put Ubuntu UNR on my sisters Netbook. Just yesterrday a neighbour of hers easily browsed around on it with Firefox (by now everybody knows Firefox :-) ). He later asked me if that was Vista because he never saw this version of windows before. I told him it's Ubuntu Linux - he said he never heard of it. And that's what most people (outside of our geek circles) would say. There's no big TV ad campaigns for Linux - nor is it prominently displayed in shops with retailers pushing it. And regular folks out there don't read computer magazines, Wired or slashdot. Linux grows slowly because it's expanding through a) geeks installing it on their families/friends computers after those were overrun by windows malware and a Mac was too expensive or b) by goverrnments trying to get more safety, less costs or often just avoiding closed software from big american copmanies they don't trust. I would very much like to see this bug fixed, but installing k/glipper or keeping the source app open while you copy/paste is not terribly difficult. Some day a GSoC project or somebody from IBM/et al will fix it. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
pyrates wrote on 2009-08-29: "The design of the clipboard isn't... ...it is broken and not working." I couldn't agree more! Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "@pyrates If it isn't rocket science for you, why don't you write a patch to fix it?" Could people please STOP posting such comments? You people talk like everyone in the world knows how to program. I also understand exactly how copy/paste works nowadays, how it should work and where it needs to be fixed. For me it also isn't rocket science. Does this mean I'm able to fix this problem? No, because I don't know how to program. Sure, I can do "Hello world" and some simple calculations, but that's all. When seeing the source code of other programs I don't understand anything. When do people start to realize not everyone knows how to program and how to fix bugs? Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "Most Ubuntu developers aren't paid for their work, they do it voluntarily. And the number of Ubuntu devs isn't infinite." And that's the main problem of open source. Someone has an idea, starts to write some code and releases a bèta version. A lot doesn't work as it should work, but instead of first fixing those bugs, the developer starts integrating some new features. He has some cool ideas and he wants to implement them. True, what's more fun: fixing bug or adding cool new features? So the developer keeps on adding new features, but after years of development those bugs from the first build aren't even fixed. Then the original developer doesn't want to go on developing his software, so he just stops. Some othet people pick up the code and start adding their cool new features, which also have some bugs. Those bugs also need to be fixed, but adding new features is more fun, so new features are added. It doesn't matter if people are complaining about those bugs, because the developers aren't paid, so they can do what they want: adding new features. Ubuntu (actually Linux in general) has so many bugs that aren't fixed after all those years. No way you should see such thing in a commercial product like Windows or Mac OS, but in a free operating system like Ubuntu (Linux in general) this is possible. It's possible to not fix those bugs, even if they exist for more than ten years. What Ubuntu (or Linux in general) really needs are more paid developers, a bunch of paid professionals. Only then will there be "a year of the Linux desktop". Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "Comments such as yours won't help fixing this bug." The developers don't want to fix this bug, so it doesn't matter which comments are posted. All of them don't help fixing this bug. The only way to help fix this bug, is giving a professional programmer a whole lot of money if he fixes this bug. P.S. After all those years this bug is still on the wishlist. Ridiculous! This isn't a wishlist, this is a bug of the highest priority as people are frustrated, because they constantly loose their work. Why do you think the market share of Linux grows so slowly? They try it, loose their work, because of this ridiculous 1980's-style copy/paste method and go back to Windows or buy a Mac. This is a bug of the HIGHEST priority! -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
ericf : Bug reports are used to fix bugs, therefore ordinary users can only help by providing informations to developers so they can fix these bugs. Discussions on bug reports make things more difficult for developers as it makes important informations hard to find. For that reason, launchpad should never be used to discuss in order to keep it doing a good work. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ has been created to get user feedback. Thanks for your comprehension. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
thank you for reclassifying bug # 417758. IMHO it should not have taken hours of correspondence culminating in a tantrum to get the matter attended to, but is appreciated none the less. also IMHO... a distribution targeting ordinary users would benefit from a consistent stream of feedback from such users. the current structure and atmosphere of the bug reporting system(s) are not very inviting to ordinary users. this may be necessary as bugs reports must be vetted and classified before bugs can be fixed. if the experience of filing bug reports cannot be improved, perhaps it's time to create a problem reporting system for ordinary, non-technical users that is friendlier and less rigorous. BTW: if i have thoughts on the future of the clip board where would i send them or post them? Eric Fluger On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Michael Nagel wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:01:20 - > From: Michael Nagel > Reply-To: Bug 11334 <11...@bugs.launchpad.net> > To: e...@panix.com > Subject: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed > before the paste > > ericf: if you do not close the source of the of the copy before pasting > -- and nevertheless experience problems -- your problem is different from > the bug discussed here and should be processed separately. i mark it as > no longer being a duplicate of this bug. > > -- > Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid > Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed > > Bug description: > This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* > support trivial things like copy/paste. > > Fortunately this works well in KDE. > > This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. > This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual > program. > Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any > other > text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does > nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs > with openoffice to gedit. > > In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window > won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down. > > When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and "Copy") text from somewhere and > after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty. > > This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the > clipboard specification from FreeDesktop. > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager > > Actual Status : > > Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 > OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092 > Evolution : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374 > GIMP | GTK+ : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230 > Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205 > > Pidgin : Fixed > Inkscape : Fixed > Gedit : Fixed > Most Gnome apps, Fixed > > -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
People on xdg mailing list were discussing about this back in '03. the thread is rather long... I always said it was a misconception in Xwin... http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2003-August/000607.html -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Oh umm another limitation is that it will only copy text, not html metadata in the clipboard. Same as ClipMan I think. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Here's a workaround for firefox:
sudo apt-get install xclip
Edit /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.2/firefox.sh (or equivalent)
Put this line after #!/bin/sh :
python /home/$USER/clipwrap.py &
# Save this (for example) to /home/$USER/clipwrap.py
#Copy from the clipboard:
import os
import time
s = ''
while True:
curs = os.popen('xclip -selection c -o').read()
if len(curs)>0:
s=curs
else:
wcl = os.popen('ps ax|grep firefox|grep -v grep|wc -l').read()
if wcl[0]=='0':
break
time.sleep(.15)
os.popen('echo \"%s\" | xclip -selection c' % s)
#EOF
#Limitations are that it only works with firefox, and if anything else
in ps ax matches firefox, it won't detect when firefox ends. Yeah, this
could be better, but it's a proof of concept right now. This wrapper
also only starts if something is on the clipboard to begin with. And
you can adjust the sleep. Right now it wakes up every 150ms. That's bad
for laptops or low-power machines. This needs to be fixed higher up on
the "source chain". I'll try to make a better workaround too.
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[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
@pyrates If it isn't rocket science for you, why don't you write a patch to fix it? Most Ubuntu developers aren't paid for their work, they do it voluntarily. And the number of Ubuntu devs isn't infinite. Comments such as yours won't help fixing this bug. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
ericf: if you do not close the source of the of the copy before pasting -- and nevertheless experience problems -- your problem is different from the bug discussed here and should be processed separately. i mark it as no longer being a duplicate of this bug. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
The design of the clipboard isn't rocket science here. Implement it according to the way Windows does it. If an application wants to use the selection method of copy and pasting, then it takes over the ctrl+c ctrl+x ctrl+v shortcuts since it's most likely a terminal application. But most other applications are not and the selection method should therefore be disabled in the main clipboard implementation. You may think you save time using the selection method, but it is NOT intuitive. And we wonder why at the beginning of every year someone announces that this year will be the year of the linux desktop and yet it fails to come true. This is why. Users expect stuff to be working properly and this is an example of something not working properly and the developers not caring enough because it works the way they want it to work and that's what matters to them. It doesn't matter to them that to most end users, it is broken and not working. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
After I reported a copy and paste related bug [Bug 417758] i was notified that it was a duplicate of Bug 11334. I read the report and thread for Bug 11334 and notified the person who contacted me that my problem was NOT the same as one reported in 11334. to reiterate and clarify: Either: Bug 417758 is NOT a duplicate of Bug 11334. Or: Bug 11334 does not describe the full scope of the problem. Explanation: The problem described in Bug 11334 is that if the user selects and copies in one window, closes the source window, and the tries to paste into another window the paste will fail. The problem I reported in Bug 417758 is that if the user selects and copies in one window and tries to paste into another window the paste fails even if the source window remains open and the selection is intact. While the problem is frequent it is also intermittent and reproducing it is a hit or miss affair. Please note that the thread for Bug 11334 attributes the problem to native X-Window behavior, which could explain the problem described in 11334 but DOES NOT EXPLAIN the problem described in Bug 417758. These may be two different problems or Bug 11334 may be more extensive than previously realized. Please also note that I spent several frustrating hours last weekend on correspondence regarding Ubuntu bugs including this issue and this will be my last communication on the matter. I have found the correspondence i received dismissive, condescending, and indicative of poor practice. (That is, you are not reading the bug reports thoroughly.) I refuse to put any more time into this. IMHO the way this bug has been treated illustrates some of reasons Ubuntu continues to have significant usability issues. Eric Fluger On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Endolith wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:27:57 - > From: Endolith > Reply-To: Bug 11334 <11...@bugs.launchpad.net> > To: e...@panix.com > Subject: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed > before the paste > > Previous discussions: > > http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-clipboard.html > http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-hate-copy-and-paste.html > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3118/ > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16966/ > > -- > Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid > Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed > > Bug description: > > This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* > support trivial things like copy/paste. > > Fortunately this works well in KDE. > > > This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. > This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual > program. > Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any > other > text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does > nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs > with openoffice to gedit. > > In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window > won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down. > -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Description changed: This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste. Fortunately this works well in KDE. This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual program. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any other text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs with openoffice to gedit. In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down. When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and "Copy") text from somewhere and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty. This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager Actual Status : - Firefox : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 - Thunderbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221183 - Sunbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412782 + Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird (Xulrunner) : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092 Evolution : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374 GIMP | GTK+ : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230 Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205 Pidgin : Fixed Inkscape : Fixed Gedit : Fixed Most Gnome apps, Fixed -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Description changed: - - This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste. + This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* + support trivial things like copy/paste. Fortunately this works well in KDE. - - This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. + This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual program. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any other text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs with openoffice to gedit. In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down. + + When I copy (Ctrl + C, or right click and "Copy") text from somewhere + and after that close the program where it is, the clipboard gets empty. + + This bug will happen in any application that doesn't comply with the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop. + http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager + + Actual Status : + + Firefox : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 + Thunderbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221183 + Sunbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412782 + OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092 + Evolution : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374 + GIMP | GTK+ : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230 + Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205 + + Pidgin : Fixed + Inkscape : Fixed + Gedit : Fixed + Most Gnome apps, Fixed -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Previous discussions: http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-clipboard.html http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-hate-copy-and-paste.html http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3118/ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16966/ -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I've merged some other bugs about the same problem into this one as duplicates, but I'm worried about it not copying the packages that are affected or upstream bugs. Do I need to manually move all those things to this bug, too? This is something that needs to be implemented in each individual program, not system-wide? Firefox : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 Thunderbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221183 Sunbird : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412782 OpenOffice : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092 Evolution : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374 GIMP | GTK+ : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230 Gnucash : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #311340 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #221183 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221183 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #412782 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412782 ** Bug watch added: OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker #63092 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63092 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #258374 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258374 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #510230 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #510205 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510205 -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
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[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Actually the way windows and OS X does it is if its text, its copied to the clipboard. If it's something larger like part of a graphic like photoshop does, they monitor the source. If the source is closed, that question pops up asking if the user wants to keep it in the clipboard. If they click yes, then it gets copied to the clipboard. If they click no, it simply is closed without anything further. If it's a file, its location is remembered only in the clipboard and that it is to be copied or cut no matter if the source window is open or not. But fixing it in glipper is NOT the answer. That is a bandaid solution. It needs to be fixed in the Xorg layer where it is implemented in the first place, so that it is fixed for all DE's like gnome and kde. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Remember "The clipboard contains a huge object, do you want to leave it?" message box when MS Office is closed? Why not to do the same?! If clipping text is not that big, then copy to "system buffer" w/o confirmation. If it's quite big (10/100/1000 Mb) - then ask. The other workaround is to insert a special program (glipper or anything else) into a basic distribution. This issue really affects me too, and I bump in it not only when source window is closed, but also when it's suspended (by "kill -SIGSTOP" or "Ctrl-Z") -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I know, this sucks. Normally on Windows platform source could be copied every though it's already closed. So when I'm on Linux, I have to be extra aware and extra careful by leaving the window of the copied source opened before pasting. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I already read it a few months ago, but it's a great article. That guy knows what he's talking about and I couldn't agree more. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I'm glad I'm not the only this has effected. Why is this taking so long to fix? Could it be because traditional linux users don't want to lose the clipboard integration that they put into the terminal emulator? I'd bet so. This is unacceptable. Here's a write up of a frustrated linux user who tried to use the clipboard in linux from http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage- clipboard.html. Desktop Linux suckage: the clipboard X11's equivalent of the clipboard has been broken since I first used X11, back in 1993. 15 years later, things are still as bad as ever they were. They say hard cases make bad law, and terminal emulators make very hard UI cases. Unfortunately, nerds being nerds, a terminal emulator tends to be the first application written for any Unix GUI. There are two main problems caused by starting with the terminal emulator and generalizing to the other 99% of applications. The more fundamental problem is that terminal emulators expect that most keystrokes can be passed through to the pseudo terminal, including the keystrokes that every other application on your system uses as keyboard equivalents for menu actions. The X11-specific problem is that XTerm conditioned many long-term Unix users to use the selection instead of the clipboard. (If you're not an X11 user, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about here. Don't worry; we'll get to it.) The big problem with the X11 clipboard is actually nothing to do with terminal emulators, except in so far as if they'd actually written some real apps instead of guessing what they might be and how they might behave, they probably wouldn't have crippled the clipboard in the way they did. The easy one first, though. Mac OS uses a modifier key for menu actions (the "command" key) that didn't exist on traditional terminals, cleverly side-stepping the problem. PuTTY on Windows basically does without; a not unreasonable solution. GNOME Terminal uses control and shift (instead of just the "control" key). Terminator uses alt, which used to be popular on Unix, but fell out of favor in Linux times, thanks (I've always assumed) to the influx of Windows users. As for the second problem, you may or may not know that Mac OS actually has multiple "pasteboards" (as usual, even their terminology is different). Mac OS hides them well enough that real people neither know nor care. Real people using Linux, even if they only use Firefox, get screwed by the old "selection" versus "clipboard" nonsense. Basically, in addition to the usual clipboard with its explicit "copy" and "paste" actions, there's a "selection". To set it you just select some text. To paste it, you press the middle button. (These days, the scroll wheel.) To paste it over existing text (such as in your web browser's location bar)... well, you can't do that. It's roughly that mistake that screws people over. I see this catch people out at least once a week, and that's amongst X11 users savvy enough to simply shrug, mutter something along the lines of "bloody clipboard", and try again more carefully. As long Linux has no Steve Jobs to stand up and say "this is hurting us, so out it goes", I don't see this getting fixed. Anyone could write the patches to remove X11 selection support. But without a Steve Jobs standing over the relevant projects' maintainers, how could we ever get them accepted? The gatekeepers we have are the XTerm-toting Emacs users who sincerely believe they couldn't live without this shit. (KDE offers an option to ignore the selection, but I believe it defaults to the old behavior. My work-around is to just never use middle-button paste. It's a lot easier to kick the habit than most old-timers probably imagine, and it makes your muscle memory more portable to other systems.) This isn't actually the worst part, though. The funny thing about that nonsense is that it's more likely to affect nerds than real people, because real people aren't too likely to come across the selection by accident. In fact, they're likely to give up on Linux before they get that far. More serious is that there isn't a clipboard in the sense of a central place that stuff gets copied or cut to. The way it works is that it's more like a token that gets handed round. So if you copy in Firefox and paste Rhythmbox, what happened was that at copy-time Firefox said "if anyone wants the contents of the clipboard, they should ask me", and at paste time Rhythmbox asked "who has the clipboard contents?", was told "Firefox", and asked Firefox "could I have the clipboard contents?". Which is all nice and efficient, saving unnecessary copying... until someone copies, quits, and tries to paste. Now the application with the data is no longer running, so it's gone. This is not how a clipboard should work. I don't need to tell you that this isn't how a clipboard should work, of course. You have common sense. You're not a paranoid engineer engineering for the worst case (of copying a 2GiB MPEG mov
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
i felt we had established that "just do not close the program" is not an acceptable solution! gimp enthusiasts hate klipper because it leeches everything it can get. if they were for a pragmatic solution they would not offer that much date but just an internal pointer. or klipper simply special-cases this scenario and everything would just work. condemning klipper because there seems to be the golden bullet solution of integrating something into x does not take us anywhere. one should elaborate a plan of how to get the x-solution because it is the right thing! but it will take its time to specify, implement and distribute. for the transition time we should use a program like klipper because there are just a few showstoppers to fix until it can be used as a decent quality workaround. so i definitely suggest the following two-step approach: 1. use klipper to get things working in near future. pragmatically fix showstoppers as with gimp and problems with binary data. this could be done within weeks. 2. enhance the x server to make things "just work". this will take months to plan and coordinate and with implementation and release this could be more than a year. so an transitional solution as proposed in step 1 makes sense. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I once read an article, "why not to use klipper", I was using it. Now I just got used to not close the program. What about: http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/2005/06/18/why-klipper-is-bad/ -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
@David Siegel, I don't think that the amount of discussion should be a factor on whether this is a papercut or not, nor do I believe that there are "divergent opinions" on this bug - everyone is pretty much saying the same thing - copy/paste in linux is laughably broken and has been for many years. The only divergence of opinion I'm seeing on this bug discussion is whether glipper/parcelite/etc are suitable workarounds. The common message seems to be that they are not, so this is still a papercut for nearly every user of linux, let alone Ubuntu. Sure, perhaps this entails too much work for a papercut, but your stated reasons for changing its status are (I think) invalid. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
This not only happens to me with the text (now i use parcellite). It even happens by copying files between nautilus tabs! -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
1. Ubuntu: Open Firefox. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter : Can't paste url Windows : Open Firefox. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter : Url pasted ! 2. Open Firefox under Windows. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter in a virtual machine(Sun Virtual Box) (UBUNTU9.4) One can paste the URL ! :-) -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Could anyone explain me something : X does not remember the content of the
selection, only the source. But why can't command line software like xsel or
xclip output the content of the CLIPBOARD selection if it is binary ? see this :
a) select some text ("clipboard" for example), then CTRL-C :
xsel : clipboard
xsel -b : clipboard
b) right-click on an image in firefox for example the launchpad logo at the top
of this page and CTRL-C :
xsel : [nothing]
xsel -b : [nothing]
what the heck ? what is xsel for if it only handles text? From the Lenny
package description : "XSel is a command-line program for getting and
setting the contents of the X selection.". It does not specify "text
only".
Do firefox and gimp and openoffice and opera and [put your software
here] use Xselection when copy/pasting images (or binary data) ?
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[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
The amount of discussion and divergent opinions expressed on this bug help show that this bug is well beyond the complexity of a paper cut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Parcellite doesn't support images, sounds, some scene copied from a videofile, et cetera. It only supports text. Last time I tried Parcellite it was very unstable. We don't need half baked workarounds. We don't want to install an application for every desktop environment (Glipper or Parcellite for GNOME, Klipper for KDE). Like Guilhem says: "Fix it in X, it gets fixed for everybody" (and drop glipper !) There shouldn't be workarounds for every single desktop environment out there. It needs to be fixed at the core. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
^ pardon the bad sentence there. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
As a workaround, http://parcellite.sourceforge.net/ seems to be solving this just fine somehow, while even giving the expanded functionality of being able to go in history of clipboard (so you can ctrl+c, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+v) while being very lightweight (4.7mb for me atm with indicator-applet 6.1 with 1 app connected to it). -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Not really a papercut in my opinion, that's a design issue and not something that will be tweaking in a day -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided => High ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Confirmed -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Actually I think Patrick is completely right. This is an Epic fail. I'm now used to it (nearly 20 years of X practising), but newcomers will laugh and flee! But IMHO I think the issue is with the way X selection works. Either gnome / put_your_wm_here drops Xsel and uses its own, dropping copy/paste support for any non-compliant application (not even imaginable I think), or Xorg developpers fix this and find a way to store the content (not only the source) on disk/ram as soon as Xselection is filled (both primary and secondary selection, please). "Fix it in X, it gets fixed for everybody" (and drop glipper !) PS : Not only you loose your Xsel when you close the program, but also when it hangs or freezes (which happens a lot with gnome apps! no flame here ;) -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
By the way: Why was LimCores tag deleted? He was completely right. I have to agree with him. Still having such broken copy and paste functionality after all those years while thousands of people keep on losing data IS an epic fail. This bugs importance has to be raised to the highest possible setting. Having an working copy and paste functionality is one the base components of an operating system. No, Glipper is NOT a solution as it's full of bugs and only supports text. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I'm not going to explain how to reproduce this bug again. I've done this before for about 452 times. How many times do I have to explain how to reproduce this bug? I can't imagine people keep on asking how to reproduce this bug. Are people really that dumb? This bug is the easiest bug ever to reproduce. For one of the explanations I wrote see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/21202/comments/37 -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I cannot reproduce this bug in 9.04. Can someone else reproduce that in Jaunty, and if so, what are the steps? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Tags removed: epicfail ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
"This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste." I couldn't agree more. I always say: "How can we ever solve bug number one if Ubuntu (or more general "Linux") can't even remember an image I placed on the clipboard two seconds ago?" "Fortunately this works well in KDE." Is this true? I know KDE includes Klipper (KDE-version of Glipper) by default. Glipper only supports text. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume KDE's copy and paste function also supports text only. So, if you're running Firefox and you copy a picture (for instance the launchpad logo on the top of this page), you close Firefox, start The GIMP and try to paste the logo from the clipboard the clipboard is empty. I don't use KDE, so I don't know how it works exactly. I only know Klipper is included by default and I assume in KDE you're left with the same functionality as when running GNOME with Glipper installed. This still isn't a WORKING copy and paste function, but it's a HALF WORKING workaround. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Description changed: + + This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste. + + Fortunately this works well in KDE. + + This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986. This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual program. Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any other text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs with openoffice to gedit. In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down. ** Tags added: epicfail -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I had a conversation with Philipp Kern recently and he basically shares our opinion. To get it in the default release we should: - collect all known/possible regressions (like c&p of binary data, some magic gimp seems to do, ...) - find someone from the official canonical team to support this probably a blueprint summing up the reason why this change is needed together with these two points is the way to go. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Bug watch removed: Ubuntu.com Bugzilla [Obsoleted by Launchpad] #4846 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4846 -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I agree. but this is more of a workaround. the copy paste thing should just work! maybe include it in the next dist. karmic may be promising :P -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
@Michael Nagel: I've tried Glipper, Parcellite and Desktop Data Manager. In my opinion Glipper and Percellite just don't work. Both of them only support text, I've had problems with these applications not starting when booting the system, after installing these applications the copy / paste function of OpenOffice.org stopped working properly. I'm using Desktop Data Manager for months now and I haven't had any problems. It not only supports text, but also images. I haven't had any problems with this application. It always starts and copy / paste just works, always. "maybe in a modified version to show no task list icon (and thus only exposing the basic "copy and paste just works"-behavior but not the advanced history&co options)." I'd really like to see a stripped down version of Desktop Data Manager to be included in the default distribution. "--> we should really try to get a clipboard manager in the default distribution for karmic. the importance of this bug should be raised to... at least something above "normal" imho." I completely agree. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
@comment 6: in true unix history of having one tool to do one thing right i do not necessarily think it is a workaround to have a program dedicated to managing the clipboard. however i think solid copy&paste is a feature everyone can expect to work out of the box. and because i think it is highly unlikely to get this supported in X directly anytime soon i think the right thing to do is to include a clipboard manager (be it glipper or parcellite) in the default distribution. maybe in a modified version to show no task list icon (and thus only exposing the basic "copy and paste just works"-behavior but not the advanced history&co options). somewhere i read a complain against clipboard manager where it blocks a feature in gimp that responds differently to paste-requests from different applications (thus exporting all pixel data when pasting to a third party application and doing some internal speed-optimized pointer logic when simply pasting to a different layer within gimp). this is a valid point but it nowhere justifies to ship such a broken copy&paste for most use cases. and if this behavior is so critical gimp may just provide two copy-methods one for the data and one for the pointer -- and export the more sane one to the ctrl-c shortcut. --> we should really try to get a clipboard manager in the default distribution for karmic. the importance of this bug should be raised to... at least something above "normal" imho. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Yesterday my father wanted to log on to a website. He didn't know the password anymore, so he looked up this password in Evolution, copied the password, closed Evolution and tried to paste the password in Firefox. The paste function was greyed out and my father thought he had clicked on the wrong button, instead of the copy button. He opened Evolution again, copied the password from the e-mail, closed Evolution and tried to paste the password in Firefox. Again he was unable to paste the password and he really had no clue what was going on. As I said before a working copy and paste function is one of the basic features of an operating system. This is something that has to work... always. A lot of people have lost already lost their work, because this basic function of an operating system still doesn't work. There are a lot of stories of people who type a long reply in an text editor and after more than one hour of work copy this reply, close the editor and try to paste it in Firefox to reply on a forum. All of the work is gone and there's no way to get it back. More than one hour of work is gone. People don't want to loose hours of work, only because a basic feature of an operating system doesn't work. This is one of the reasons people go back to Windows or buy a Mac. On these operating systems copy / paste works the way it should work and they won't loose their work, because they closed the source. If you want to be taken seriously, than implement a copy / paste function that works the way it should work. Otherwise people will always look at Ubuntu as an half-baked, amaturistic operating system. It can't be that hard to implement, because Desktop Data Manager already makes it work the way it should. Take the source code of this application, take out all unneeded featues (screenshot utility and download manager) and implement it in Ubuntu. Problem solved. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I think the problem is that the copy "buffer" if you want to call it like that is saved somewhere in the current program memory. When the program is closed the "buffer" is erased so there is no source to copy it from. A possible fix would be allocating some memory for copy. But than again this might prove to be a really bad security flaw. Please correct me if I am wrong. I just THINK this is how it works. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
YAC - Yet Another Confirmation ... and yes, this bug is rather annoying one. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
See my comment here for a much longer comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/21202/comments/37 Sorry for kicking this thread with that previous comment, but in my opinion it's ridiculous there's still no working copy/paste function in Linux, after all those years. In my opinion it's way more important to have a working copy/paste function, instead of (for instance) some new way to notificate users. The current notifications already work, copy/paste doesn't work like it has to work. Let's first fix all of those bugs, instead of adding new features and improving thing that already work without problems. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:38 +, Patrick Roberts wrote: > Can this please be fixed? > Comments like that don't help in any way to speed up the bug fixing process. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Can this please be fixed? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
nota bene: parcellite should be preferred over glipper (unmaintained) right now. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Just because X has behaved this way forever doesn't make this user friendly behaviour. Besides - it doesn't require new code - just include glipper by default and add it to the panel. I've been using Linux for a while and it's still annoying when clipboard data is lost... I added glipper but it's buried in synaptic and then you have to add it to the panel (not even in add/remove... not that any user would know to look there) -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
i'd like to have this thing addressed, too. this "bug" can be very frustrating for users switching from windows and it's by far more convenient for beginner/intermediate/power-users to have this functionality, too. i can think of no use case where the current behavior brings an advantage. i see that X is not something very dynamic and the X clipboard will probably not be changed soon. but (as suggested) glipper provides the needed functionality (and a whole lot more). i'd suggest to get glipper maintained, included in main and shipped installed with the default setup. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I also lost some data after hard work because of this bug. Beginners and advanced uses assume on a very basic functional level that this bug is not there. Hence the data loss risk while working is too high. Please increase the importance and release a fix soon.. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I disagree that this bug should be rated as a WISHLIST bug. My opinion is that it should be rated as a CRITICAL bug. This is a design bug! It is darn hard to recommend this os when there are silly bugs such as this listed as features?!? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Sorry i just re-read and noticed its not an actual bug and why its a wishlist. This is a BIG wishlist, it gets quite annoying.. I understand how linux is meant to work, but when you work in an OS thats aiming to be a real alternative to MS and OSX, it would really help to get copy and paste to work even better! :) -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Hi this bug kills me especially when i copy things from firefox, especially when i want to copy a link fro mfirefox and close it to re- open it (because of flash bugs). Please this is not a wishlist bug, this seems moderate, i cant believe this bug was reported two years ago and it still isnt fixed... -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I can fix it if I use Glipper or Klipper (preferred) on KDE. Installing one of these makes everything better. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I also noticed that. And my god how it is annoying. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Found this from : http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/software/xsel/ cut -- Make the selection contents persist in memory Normally the X selection only exists as long as the program it was selected in is running. Further, some buggy applications tend to forget their selection text after a little while. If you run: xsel --keep after selecting some important text, xsel will copy the text into its own memory so you can paste it elsewhere even if the original program exits or crashes. -- cut If a simple/old program can do this, couldn't this be integrated in gnome window manager ?? Thanks -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I think there are case where it is very important to retain copy buffer : Have you ever tried to create a filter with a header in evolution ? A natural way would be : - Show source message - Select and copy desired header - Close window - Go to Edit > Filters > New > - Paste Unfortunately, it doesn't work, because of what has been said above... I have to keep the window open, and once filter is created, go back to find it in order to close it... But I thought selection buffer (X-managed) was different from copy-paste (WM managed)... but even CTRL-C doesn't retain clipboard... It is my #1 wishlist/bugfix as I run into it very often... Worst, it seems to me that even if selection buffer worked that way, copy-paste used to behave as expected... maybe in my days of using windowmaker ? Thanks for working so hard for us ! -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Because probably nobody has the knowledge, time or is not interested to work on it? Comments like you're posting recently doesn't help at all, if you want to help to get this fixed you can work on a patch and submit it to the report, but please stop commenting with no useful information. thanks in advance. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Really? 3-4 years? Why has it not been fixed after so long a time? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
This is an important bug, and its been 3-4 years since its been reported, and you still haven't fixed it. Other operating systems have had the functionality for like 20 years. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I have this bug too! 1960 called and want their copy&paste system back. Windows 3.11 could do this 15+ years ago. This bug pisses me off! Fix it! -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
** Changed in: ubuntu Importance: Medium => Wishlist Assignee: Ubuntu-X (ubuntu-x-swat) => (unassigned) -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
This bug definitely is valid, and confirmed by several people. It should probably be wishlist rather than medium though. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Invalid => Confirmed -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
This would have to be my number 1 "bug" in Ubuntu, I run into it several times a day and is at the top of my wishlist to Santa. I understand it's not bug, it's in fact working perfectly, it's just restrictive and a little frustrating. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
i also have this problem (Bug #11334) is it possible to solve this problem on Ubuntu 8.04 ? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I agree on that and I've never said it should work this way just because Windows does. I was just replying to Sarah Hobbs' comment. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Well in the grand scheme of things, how windows works is pretty irrelevant. This is ubuntu, which should work in the way that works best, not just the same way as windows. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
No, windows does not work this way - I just tested it. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Why should it work this way? Ok, it saves memory, but out of 1GB or so, a few bytes of text isn't going to do much. I think this bug should be confirmed and marked as wishlist -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
FWIW, even windows works this way (as in, once the source window is closed, the data is lost). Having glipper as a dep would solve this though. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Thanks Marcel :-) I'll try -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://launchpad.net/bugs/11334 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
glipper is a good solution/work around: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Glipper -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://launchpad.net/bugs/11334 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Ubuntu QA guy Simon Law puts it like this: "Thank you for your report. This behaviour has always been the case and is a design feature of X11. You are describing SELECTION and PRIMARY buffers. They were separate and have semantics that are both supported by major X applications. It is unlikely that this will change in the near future, even though more and more applications prefer exposing the PRIMARY buffer in their menu systems." ** Bug 35875 has been marked a duplicate of this bug ** Bug 36165 has been marked a duplicate of this bug ** Bug 57415 has been marked a duplicate of this bug -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://launchpad.net/bugs/11334 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I confirm this issue as well. >From Daniel Stone answer I understand that this is no bug but the common behaviour of the X clipboard? Still I (perhaps not only me as I see that this "bug" is reported more than once (see #36165) ) find this behaviour quite strange. Perhaps I will get used to it but does anybody know if there is a workaround for this issue? Thanks in advance... -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://launchpad.net/bugs/11334 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
