[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
I can confirm this bug. In my case, the problem is in a laptop with a bluetooth mouse. The bug does not affect the touchpad. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
The problem disappears when you remove mouseemu package. The seems to be necessary when using wiimote, but I have used wiimote without this package. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
seems more like a bug in mouseemu. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Most likely to avoid accidental touchpad movements while typing on the keyboard (as most touchpads are located under the keyboard, which might lead to palm contact). I don't think the mouse delay is a good solution to that problem. And most laptops nowadays align the touchpad to the spacebar (i.e. the touchpad is a few cm's to the left of the center of the keyboard area), and I think the reason for that is to minimize accidental touchpad movement. Ok, so I just checked some macbook pics and the touchpad there is located at the exact horizontal center of the keyboard area, so that's why they have this problem. Re: original mouseemu issue, I think there are several problems here: 1) mouseemu seems to activate the -typing-block DELAY feature for all mice-like devices: touchpads and regular mice. I think it should be changed to be activated only for touchpads. 2) mouseemu uses a 300ms default value for the delay. I think the author should recognize that this delay can be annoying for users who don't want it (and who have never heard of this mouseemu app), so there should be no delay by default. 3) mouseemu seems to be installed for all macs (?): desktop imacs and macbooks. It should only be installed by default on macbooks. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
1) Indeed it should only. The problem is that the touchpad on a macbook apparently is mapped to the same thing as USB mice are on a normal installation. There is probably a way to check if the device is a touchpad though - which should be implemented. 2) I think it is a good thing to have it enabled by default. It should probably be tweaked a bit though. Better hear macbook users about how it works for them, though. 3) I'm not really sure when mouseemu is needed, but definitely worth asking about/looking into. Actually, the most important thing woth this delay is probably to avoid accidental touchpad clicks. Movement probably won't hurt much, but clicks can be quite annoying. Perhaps mouseemu should simply ignore clicks in the delay, but leave movement alone. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
I have also experienced this (hardy), I'm using an Intel iMac. It is annoying as hell, especially when alt-tabbing between windows and copy- pasting: the mouse freezes every single time I do these things. And it was very hard to find the cause of the problem because a simple google search does not reveal any clues (is it gnome, metacity, compiz, X server? none of the above it turned out) The liveCD does not have this problem, so perhaps mouseemu is only installed or enabled during the actual install to a hard disk (when it somehow detects that the computer is a mac)? Could this program please be disabled by default? If someone wants mouse emulation in mac, I think he'll find mouseemu in a simple google search. At the very least, please change the “-typing-block DELAY” default value from 300ms to 0. Why would you want a delay, anyway??? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Christopher Sachs wrote: The way to really fix the problem is to make /dev/input/uinput correspond to the trackpad. So who knows how to do this? No, I just checked the mouseemu source code, and I think the problem is that mouseemu registers a handler for all input devices that have a relative axis event type. This handler is the one responsible for the key block delay. The problem with this is that AFAIK, all generic mice and touchpads have this relative axis event type. So I think that mouseemu should make its matching more restrictive: just touchpads and not mice, especially because its key block feature is enabled by default and very annoying to users who don't want it. Perhaps it could match the actual touchpad device name or product/vendor ID found in macbooks? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Why would you want a delay, anyway??? Most likely to avoid accidental touchpad movements while typing on the keyboard (as most touchpads are located under the keyboard, which might lead to palm contact). -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
I too experienced this. Took a few days to find this bug report too, with many hours of frustration. Nothing's been done to fix this in over a year? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Still a problem here as well. Hardy B1 on a PC laptop with a Logitech USB mouse. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
This is still a problem in Hardy Beta for me. I'm using a Macbook and a bluetooth mouse. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
** Changed in: mouseemu (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: xorg = mouseemu Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
after an aptitude install mouseemu, the problem comes back on my upgraded gutsy. I'll let you know if it does the same with the liveCD -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Could you please recheck it with Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Live CD? ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Ok, I'll try disabling typing block tomorrow (the problem is in my work desktop). But I disagree with your way to really fix the problem, the computer in question is a mac mini (a desktop) so it does not have a trackpad at all so the really way to fix would be to mouseemu to be automagicaly disabled. On 17/06/07, Christopher Sachs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouseemu simulates middle and right mouse button presses for users with only one mouse button (Apple laptop users without an external mouse). It uses the uinput kernel module which allows a program to inject input events, which is how it fakes the button presses. The manpage for mouseemu says that by default it uses /dev/uinput, /dev/input/uinput or /dev/misc/uinput to send its events. mouseemu also supports a feature that is supposed to disable the trackpad when the keyboard is in use. The problem appears to be that /dev/input/uinput on Ubuntu corresponds to an external mouse and not to the internal trackpad. And by default the keyboard-disabling feature is enabled, so the external mouse gets locked up when the keyboard is in use. One temporary fix for the problem besides removing mouseemu is to disable the typing block by replacing the relevant line in /etc/default/mouseemu with: TYPING_BLOCK=-typing-block 0 and restarting mouseemu with sudo /etc/init.d/mouseemu restart This fixes the problem of the mouse freezing, but mouseemu is still a lame duck because its other useful features still only apply to an external mouse and not to the trackpad. The way to really fix the problem is to make /dev/input/uinput correspond to the trackpad. So who knows how to do this? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
mouseemu simulates middle and right mouse button presses for users with only one mouse button (Apple laptop users without an external mouse). It uses the uinput kernel module which allows a program to inject input events, which is how it fakes the button presses. The manpage for mouseemu says that by default it uses /dev/uinput, /dev/input/uinput or /dev/misc/uinput to send its events. mouseemu also supports a feature that is supposed to disable the trackpad when the keyboard is in use. The problem appears to be that /dev/input/uinput on Ubuntu corresponds to an external mouse and not to the internal trackpad. And by default the keyboard-disabling feature is enabled, so the external mouse gets locked up when the keyboard is in use. One temporary fix for the problem besides removing mouseemu is to disable the typing block by replacing the relevant line in /etc/default/mouseemu with: TYPING_BLOCK=-typing-block 0 and restarting mouseemu with sudo /etc/init.d/mouseemu restart This fixes the problem of the mouse freezing, but mouseemu is still a lame duck because its other useful features still only apply to an external mouse and not to the trackpad. The way to really fix the problem is to make /dev/input/uinput correspond to the trackpad. So who knows how to do this? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
I'm having the same problem in my mac mini (feisty ppc). Could you give more details of how did you solved the problem? What is Bum ? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
Solved the problem in a drastic way: #sudo killall mouseemu After killing mouseemu everything is ok, what raises the questions: What is this mouseemu package? Why it is needed (removing it i didn't saw any difference apart from correcting the bug)? Why it is installed and enabled by default if it breaks some mouses? -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 113344] Re: [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard
After removing all I added for the Wiimote, I still didn't work. Tomorrow, I launched Bum to stop some services. I saw mouseemu, I deactivate it, and now, my mouse works perfectly ! ** Summary changed: - [Feisty]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard + [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard ** Description changed: - Binary package hint: xorg - + Binary package hint: mousemu (On a laptop) If I move my USB mouse while typing, or just after I've finished to type, the cursor doesn't move, but after a second, it wraps to the location it was expected to go. It only happens with my USB mouse: the touchpad works very well, but it happens with a wireless keybord too. lsusb: ... Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a Optical Wheel Mouse ... dmesg, juste after plugging my mouse in: ... [17669.284000] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6 [17672.292000] usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 [17672.468000] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [17672.484000] input: Logitech Optical USB Mouse as /class/input/input22 [17672.484000] input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech Optical USB Mouse] on usb-:00:1d.0-1 - I have another problem that may be related to Xorg, I'll report it too and post the link. + I got round it: see below. It was mouseemu which was involved, not xorg ** Tags added: feisty mouseemu -- [Feisty[mouseemu]Freeze of usb mouse while using keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
