[Bug 1174944] Re: Incorrect locale interpretation regression

2013-05-04 Thread Olli Niemi
Also "ps" command seems to be broken. It happily "localizes" just the
month but follows no rule, i.e.  time format in "00:00:00", "touko02".
Probably all coreutils programs are broken in the same way.

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[Bug 1174944] Re: Incorrect locale interpretation regression

2013-05-03 Thread Olli Niemi
If we check the calendar (top right hand corner) in 13.04 with Finnish
settings we see it says "la touko" (for Saturday and May). This is
incorrect as both "la" and "touko" can be have the same meaning in
English (abbreviated Sat and May). When we check the calendar itself we
see that the week now starts from Monday, which is correct. Then we see
translated dates for the week ("ma ti ke to pe la su"), which is
incorrect. Then we again see "lauantai, 4 toukokuu 2013" in the heading,
which is incorrect. The correct would be as it is in regional settings,
"la 4. toukokuuta 2013".

In Finland "4." actually means "4th", causing that you have use that
"ta" ending for the month. There are regional ways to say full dates
meaning you can't just pick numbers and say the same thing in different
languages. I just see no reasoning why the calendar has to be in
Finnish.

Same problem can be seen with the "ls -l" command which simply truncates
textual moths from English to Finnish but still leaving time format to
incorrect "20:40", which is "20.40" in Finland. Either select US-only
output or try to be consistent with outputs. But in any case the
language should be correct if set  in locales.

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[Bug 1174944] Re: Incorrect locale interpretation regression

2013-05-03 Thread Olli Niemi
Don't know about bug 1072019 but sounds similar. There has been a locale
change in 13.04. From my locales (untouched):

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_TIME=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Now the locale in 13.04 looks correct to me. Before it was incorrect (in
12.10). I don't know how many packages there are having this problem but
it's probable now that full translation (if language is available) is
done in several applications.

Just checked the Regional options: "Display numbers, dates and currency
amounts in the usual format for:". It is clearly a bug if country
specific setting here simply overwrites the language setting.

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[Bug 1174944] Re: Incorrect locale interpretation regression

2013-05-01 Thread Fabio Marconi
Hallo
Can this be a duplicate of bug 1072019 ?
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[Bug 1174944] Re: Incorrect locale interpretation regression

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