[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Status: In Progress = Fix Committed ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-ui-toolkit - 0.1.46+14.04.20140408.1-0ubuntu1 --- ubuntu-ui-toolkit (0.1.46+14.04.20140408.1-0ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=low [ Zoltán Balogh ] * Change Ubuntu API links in the docs (LP: #1303535) (LP: #1303535) [ Leo Arias ] * Improve the check of tab selection mode by moving to it first. * On the autopilot helpers to click a toolbar button, check that the toolbar is opened first. (LP: #1302706) [ tpeeters ] * Improve toolbar handling on desktop by opening it on mouse hover. (LP: #1182734) * If a Page is inside a Tab and has no title set, get it automatically from the Tab. (LP: #1289695) -- Ubuntu daily release ps-jenk...@lists.canonical.com Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:47:06 + ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/trusty-proposed/ubuntu-ui-toolkit ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Branch linked: lp:~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/09-desktop-toolbar -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Milestone: march-2014 = april-2014 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Toolbar could be revealed when the mouse hovers over it. As we discussed, this would be enough for the moment till we have toolbar and we get all the tools migrated into the header. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Importance: High = Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Milestone: february-2014 = march-2014 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Tim Peeters (tpeeters) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Milestone: None = february-2014 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
I think, the original problem is that the button bar is not visible. I took 1 year to find where is it reporting a bug here. I thinked that was a bug! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Tags removed: desktop ** Tags added: desktop-touch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
I am eagerly waiting for a fix of this bug too. However, I wonder if the toolbar is even needed on the desktop. Shouldn't actions be available through the global menu? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Sorry the willow team is a private repo. I pushed the prototype also here: lp:~vesar/+junk/hover-hint-toolbar To run it you need have Qt installed on you machine. So branch it cd to it and run with command: qmlscene testToolbarConcept.qml For convenience I also uploaded a screen cast of the prototype. https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B8eY_FZZ1z7IOEdUWEZQUUFWTmM/view ** Description changed: When running an Ubuntu SDK app on the desktop the toolbar needs is not visible and needs to be swiped out from the bottom of the window. This is uninituitive and gives the impression that no toolbar exists. Desired solution: Use hovering onEntered and onExited events on desktop to hint that there is a toolbar available. - See the prototype: lp:~willow-team/willow/hover-hint-toolbar/ + See the prototype: lp:~vesar/+junk/hover-hint-toolbar Also the spec updated: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1pIhxERCp355mI9SeA1M8W2vN4HVINEpEVCNx3y7ab4E/edit# ** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
I tested the branch; hover+drag seems to work but hover+click doesn't open the toolbar. At any rate, I still believe that toolbars should be locked open while a mouse is present. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Robert, your suggestion sounds good to me (at least until we figure out a better way to do it). I reported this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1256124 which needs to be fixed first. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Jouni, how do I install or test it? I don't see any instructions for building it. There's no debian/ directory so it's not a package I can install. In any case, a visual cue that a toolbar is there is a nice first step, but I think it's only a half-measure. Having to click to reveal a toolbar is an annoying extra click when you have dual 1080p screens in front of you. I firmly maintain that the toolkit should simply say mouse present == toolbar visibility locked. Plug in a mouse on your phone, and all the toolbars pop out permanently. laptops have trackpads, so toolbars stay visible. End of story. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
In my opinion just including a menu with an option to reveal the toolbar would make a difference. Not the best option, for sure, but I least something that any desktop user could expect. The application is completely useless for a desktop environment as it is, having no menu, no toolbar and not being integrated with the messaging indicator (even the old gwibber allowed to post messages from there). Even having to pull the upper panel down to refresh is bizzarre for a desktop. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
C'mon designers, haven't you read your Fitt's law? Edge-swiping on a fullscreen mobile app is great, because the edge target is effectively infinite in size, so it's an easy swipe. Swiping up on a windowed desktop application is infuriatingly impossible, because the 1px target is *tiny*. Yes, obviously there are a range of devices and the concept of desktop is nebulous at best, but it should not be difficult to come up with a reasonable set of heuristics for when it makes sense to lock the toolbar open. Something like Only autohide the toolbar when the app is running fullscreen and there is no mouse connected As far as I'm concerned, the presence of touch input is irrelevant; connecting a mouse should lock open the toolbars. But even without a mouse, Fitt's law clearly indicates that a hidden toolbar that is not at the extreme edge of the display is a bad idea. ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Status: Incomplete = Triaged ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Also affects: friends-app (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: friends-app (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Tags added: toolbar -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Importance: Critical = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Screen height may not be the best solution. Screen height (in pixels) may be larger on a phone than on a laptop. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Just use screen height. As soon as there is enough space there should be no problem with displaying the toolbar. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
What is the hardware feature that should tell us we are on desktop and have a different behavior for the toolbar? Is it screen size? lack of touch-screen? It seems straightforward to distinguish between a phone and a PC, but of course there can be (hybrid) devices that are something inbetween.. ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Assignee: (unassigned) = Tim Peeters (tpeeters) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Fix Committed = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
From what I can tell the current solution to this bug is that the toolbar is hidden and when the mouse enters the region of where the toolbar exists a hint is displayed and the user will drag out the toolbar. If this is the recommended approach I think we are making a mistake. I think this doesn't make sense for two reasons: 1. Historically desktop applications show toolbars by default; it is unintuitive for a user to have to pull out a toolbar to make use of it. I understand the rationale here on the phone as we use the edges, but we don't use the edge of the desktop screen on the desktop as we are using windows. 2. Having to pull out the toolbar everytime you need to use it is going to get rather frustrating rather quickly. It also requires a special level of mouse dexterity as the 1GU area is quite narrow to pull out the toolbar. Can the design team provide some rationale about why we don't simply display the toolbar by default? ** Tags added: sdk-app-desktop-integration -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Sorry for missing the description. I already added desired solution once but I guess I didn't save the bug report properly as I can see that it is still missing. The idea is to use hover events to hint about toolbar existence. ** Description changed: When running an Ubuntu SDK app on the desktop the toolbar needs is not visible and needs to be swiped out from the bottom of the window. This is uninituitive and gives the impression that no toolbar exists. + + + Desired solution: + See the prototype: lp:~willow-team/willow/hover-hint-toolbar/ ** Description changed: When running an Ubuntu SDK app on the desktop the toolbar needs is not visible and needs to be swiped out from the bottom of the window. This is uninituitive and gives the impression that no toolbar exists. - - Desired solution: + Desired solution: + Use hovering onEntered and onExited events on desktop to hint that there is a toolbar available. See the prototype: lp:~willow-team/willow/hover-hint-toolbar/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Description changed: When running an Ubuntu SDK app on the desktop the toolbar needs is not visible and needs to be swiped out from the bottom of the window. This is uninituitive and gives the impression that no toolbar exists. Desired solution: Use hovering onEntered and onExited events on desktop to hint that there is a toolbar available. See the prototype: lp:~willow-team/willow/hover-hint-toolbar/ + + Also the spec updated: + https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1pIhxERCp355mI9SeA1M8W2vN4HVINEpEVCNx3y7ab4E/edit# -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux Status: Fix Committed = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1182734] Re: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult)
Vesa where are the exact specifications when the toolbar should be locked opened, and when we have auto-show/hide? I think there are only specs available for touch. ** Changed in: ubuntu-ui-toolkit Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1182734 Title: Slide out toolbar should be displayed by default on the desktop (swiping is difficult) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1182734/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
