[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-12 Thread Daniel Hartwig
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1135687 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1135687

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1135687
   GtkNotebook 0x114d4a0 is mapped but visible child GtkLabel 0x1450610 is not 
mapped

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-12 Thread Daniel Letzeisen
Yes, editing ability would be nice.. 
Anyway, I couldn't reproduce it in my Raring VM, even running under 
gnome-fallback (tried with and without effects).

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-11 Thread John Winterton
Oops.  s/synapic/synaptic/

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-11 Thread John Winterton
I really wish one could edit these posts.  My typwriter is not working
well this morning.

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-11 Thread John Winterton
Sorry, I was feeling a little put upon at the moment.

To reproduce this error open a session in Gnome fallback desktop, then
open the standard console.

Enter one of:

sudo syntapic

or

gksu syntapic

After entering your password you should get this problem.  The start up
of syntapic seems to iterate over some loop that produces this message
several times.

I've been in computers for over 50 years and my experience tells me that
ignoring things like this is a dangerous thing.  Whoever was last
assigned to this program did not do a thorough quality check and this
kind of thing is disturbing with a program that needs to be utterly
trusted.

Now, the solution to this could be simply the removal of a bad
assertion, or it might be worth tracking down why that assertion is
there.  Some item is, in the opinion of the programmer who put it there
essential and incorrect.  Putting an assertion in a loop certainly calls
attention to it when it fails.

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel Letzeisen
"Yes, and at the same location."

How would I go about reproducing this?

(As for the rest of your post, this isn't the place for that sort of
thing.)

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-10 Thread John Winterton
Yes, and at the same location.  Calling the GUI directly doesn't do this
using the icon, but we know why that is, do we not?  All this then goes
to the big bit bucket in the sky.

Software QA means no bugs and no warnings of any kind.  Letting
something go when it seems harmless will turn around and bite you some
day.

One of the most annoying things that is happening in Ubuntu is the
attempt to hide stuff from the users and modify or remove some tools
because they are 'advanced' or 'out-moded'.  The end-user is the one who
should decide what tools he wants, and sitting in a design meeting with
everyone on the same wavelength is not the way to do it.  When a program
works, it should be left alone.  Re-inventing wheels because someone
doesn't like the taste of it, is not the way to fly.

P.S. The Unity desktop is not a good idea.  All those icons just clutter
up my desktop.  So I am using the Gnome fallback desktop, and I hope you
don't decide to eliminate that.  There should be a general halt in
trying to emulate the Microsoft desktop.  It just confuses everyone.

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[Bug 1199823] Re: A seemingly harmless assertion error, but ...

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel Letzeisen
'sudo synaptic' is not a good idea: 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
Does this happen when using 'gksu/gksudo synaptic' command?

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