[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-18 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
Thanks for the warning. I was aware of that I have two disks (One HDD,
and one 24 GB SSD) but most probably I'd forget that and format the 24
GB SSD (/dev/sdb).

So, my USB stick was /dev/sdc and I used dd command (btw, you made a
mistake while giving the command, there shouldn't be a space in of
=/dev/sdN).

However, NOTHING CHANGED :( Same result. So there's nothing wrong with
usb-creator, and what now? Do you think trying 13.10 would change the
situation?

I want to clear something, when I try to boot Ubuntu installation via
USB/DVD in SecureBoot, computer doesn't give any error output, it is
able to show me the UEFI boot menu (Install Ubuntu, Try Ubuntu, Check
Disk for Errors, etc.) but when I select any of them, it just waits in
black screen without any error message.

So, I installed Ubuntu SecureBoot disabled, and then after enabling
SecureBoot and trying to boot Ubuntu I received Secure Boot Violation:
Invalid signature detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in Setup.

So, while trying to install, computer doesn't give any error outputs,
but it just doesn't continue.

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-18 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
Also, sometimes during boot the fan starts working very loudly and the
only way to stop is turn off the computer. It happens only when I'm
using Ubuntu, and I'm about to give up using Ubuntu. I had been using it
happily with my old computer but with this one it seems as if they tried
a lot for disabling users to use another OS! Computer works very
silently (nearly unheardable) when I'm in Windows 8 but when I open
Ubuntu, it works with some hearable noise. Now I see that while booting
Ubuntu, I receive an error before Ubuntu logo appears:

[ 17.827875] nouveau  E [ DRM]  Pointer to TMDS table
invalid

I have Nvidia graphics card, so this nouevau is related to that as far
as I know but, in case it helps...

** Summary changed:

- Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu
+ Secure Boot doesn't work with ASUS S56CB

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Re: [Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 03:16:29PM -, Şâkir Aşçı wrote:
 I want to clear something, when I try to boot Ubuntu installation via
 USB/DVD in SecureBoot, computer doesn't give any error output, it is
 able to show me the UEFI boot menu (Install Ubuntu, Try Ubuntu, Check
 Disk for Errors, etc.) but when I select any of them, it just waits in
 black screen without any error message.

Oh!  that's something different, then.  We may be looking at a bug anywhere
between shim, grub, the kernel, or the installer.

 So, I installed Ubuntu SecureBoot disabled, and then after enabling
 SecureBoot and trying to boot Ubuntu I received Secure Boot Violation:
 Invalid signature detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in Setup.

Right, that's because currently when you install on a system without Secure
Boot enabled, the signed bootloader is not installed.  This is related to
bug #1184297, which we're working on resolving.

In the meantime, after installation you can do the following:

 sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed
 sudo grub-install --uefi-secure-boot

After running those two commands, you can reboot, re-enable SecureBoot in
the firmware, and try to boot the *installed* Ubuntu under SecureBoot.  It
shouldn't give you a security error - though it might still fail with the
same issue you saw when trying to install.

Please let me know whether this lets you successfully boot the system; that
will help us narrow down the real cause of this install-time bug.

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Re: [Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:59:02PM -, Şâkir Aşçı wrote:
  How did you prepare the Ubuntu USB disk?

 I've just bought this ASUS computer, so it's very new and I've been
 reading a lot about UEFI before the installation. So, I had Ubuntu 13.04
 installed in my old laptop and I prepared the USB with Ubuntu's pre-
 installed USB installer software (usb-creator-gtk). I was thinking of
 using YUMI or Unetbootin in order to write image under Windows, but I
 thought that may cause changes in the ISO file and so didn't use them.

 Before starting creating USB, I re-downloaded the 13.04 image in order
 to make sure that I have the most updated one, and controlled md5sum
 after the download. Additionally, I also burnt the image to a DVD and
 tried in that way too. I had the same result, so I'm sure that there
 couldn't be anything wrong regarding the installation media.

 So, what to do now? :/

To rule out this being a problem with usb-creator, please rewrite the USB
stick directly using dd.  Please note that you must be *very careful* when
using this method: because you are writing to the device directly, if you
get the wrong device name, you can overwrite your system's main disk.

On your existing Ubuntu installation, *before* plugging in your USB stick,
run from the commandline:

 $ ls -l /dev/sdb

this should say:

  ls: cannot access /dev/sdb: No such file or directory

If so, then 'sdb' is the correct device.  If not, repeat for sdc, sdd,
etc.

Plug the USB stick into the computer, and repeat the last command.  If you
have the right device name, it should now show you the device, not an error
message.

Once you have the correct device, run:

 $ sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso bs=$((1024*1024)) of =/dev/sdN

where /dev/sdN is the device corresponding to the USB stick.

When that command completes, you will have a USB stick with the unmodified
Ubuntu image.  If that still fails, then there's definitely some problem
with shim (though I don't know what).  If it succeeds, then it's a bug in
usb-creator.

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
What is the error when trying to boot the Ubuntu 13.04 disk with
SecureBoot enabled?

Please attach the following files from your system (when booted to Ubuntu):
/sys/firmware/efi/efivars/db-d719b2cb-3d3a-4596-a3bc-dad00e67656f
/sys/firmware/efi/efivars/KEK-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c


** Changed in: shim (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
** Attachment added: KEK-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c
   
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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
** Attachment added: db-d719b2cb-3d3a-4596-a3bc-dad00e67656f
   
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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
Sorry, I couldn't attach the files in a single post. When I try to boot
with SecureBoot, the error is Secure Boot Violation: Invalid signature
detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in Setup and this is a screenshot of
the error: http://i.imgur.com/e10je91.jpg

If I disable SecureBoot, then I'm able to boot into Ubuntu, but only
from UEFI boot menu. I mean it's possible to via this menu:
http://i.imgur.com/g8oaNYa.jpg

After I choose Ubuntu from UEFI device selection menu, I'm able to boot
into Ubuntu (with SecureBoot disabled).

As I didn't want to lose Windows' bootloader, I installed Ubuntu's GRUB
to /boot partition and when I opened Windows 8, I added Ubuntu entry
to bootloader of Windows via EasyBCD. So, now I have this in my start
screen of Windows 8: http://i.imgur.com/nmRNTCD.jpg

But when I select Ubuntu, it gives the following error:
http://i.imgur.com/IQIl0aN.jpg

PS: I know there are two different problems, and the priority here is to
fix Ubuntu's SecureBoot problem (that's my wish also) but I also wanted
to say the other problem with Ubuntu in Windows' bootloader.

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
Thanks, this is very interesting; it shows that not only does your
firmware include the expected Microsoft key, your firmware *also*
includes the Canonical Secure Boot key.  This makes it doubly surprising
that the stock Ubuntu image doesn't boot under Secure Boot.  Did you add
any of these keys yourself, or did these come by default in your
firmware?

How did you prepare the Ubuntu USB disk?  The preferred way to do this
is with a direct dd of the ISO onto the USB disk; the ISO is a hybrid
image which is bootable out of the box as a USB disk, whereas many USB
image creator programs try to modify the image in unpredictable ways
when writing.

 PS: I know there are two different problems, and the priority here is to fix 
 Ubuntu's
 SecureBoot problem (that's my wish also) but I also wanted to say the other
 problem with Ubuntu in Windows' bootloader.

Yes.  I've focused on the Secure Boot problem, because I understood that
to be your priority.  The other problem with booting under the Windows
bootloader is probably not one that we will commit to fixing.

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
 Did you add any of these keys yourself, or did these come by default
in your firmware?

No, I didn't add anthing before/after installation (and also I don't
have that much knowledge either).  As much as I follow, I was aware of
that Microsoft gave authorization to Ubuntu under UEFI starting from
Ubuntu 12.04.2, and I had read (I think on OMG! Ubuntu!) that before
Microsoft, Canonical had other its own plans on UEFI, so I thought maybe
I don't have the required Microsoft keys, but as you explain that's not
the case then.

 How did you prepare the Ubuntu USB disk?

I've just bought this ASUS computer, so it's very new and I've been
reading a lot about UEFI before the installation. So, I had Ubuntu 13.04
installed in my old laptop and I prepared the USB with Ubuntu's pre-
installed USB installer software (usb-creator-gtk). I was thinking of
using YUMI or Unetbootin in order to write image under Windows, but I
thought that may cause changes in the ISO file and so didn't use them.

Before starting creating USB, I re-downloaded the 13.04 image in order
to make sure that I have the most updated one, and controlled md5sum
after the download. Additionally, I also burnt the image to a DVD and
tried in that way too. I had the same result, so I'm sure that there
couldn't be anything wrong regarding the installation media.

So, what to do now? :/

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[Bug 1201257] Re: Ubuntu doesn't boot from Windows 8 boot menu

2013-07-15 Thread Şâkir Aşçı
I forgot to add: The only thing I did was to update my BIOS firmware
from 204 to 205 downloading from ASUS:
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/S56CB#support_Download_36

I don't think it'd change anything, but just wanted to include in case
it helps in some way.

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