[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Changed in: maas Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Changed in: maas Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Branch linked: lp:~gmb/maas/fix-ipmi-wording-bug-1304518 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Changed in: maas Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Branch linked: lp:~gmb/maas/fix-ipmi-wording-bug-1304518 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Changed in: maas Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Yeah, that could work. ** Changed in: maas Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Tags added: trivial ** Changed in: maas Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: maas Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Yeah, that could work. ** Changed in: maas Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
** Tags added: trivial ** Changed in: maas Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: maas Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
How about: Use ARP on this MAC address to discover BMC's IP address if its IP is likely to change, e.g. if it's assigned via DHCP ? ** Changed in: maas Status: New = Incomplete ** Tags added: confusing-ui -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
How about: Use ARP on this MAC address to discover BMC's IP address if its IP is likely to change, e.g. if it's assigned via DHCP ? ** Changed in: maas Status: New = Incomplete ** Tags added: confusing-ui -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Julian: THAT makes more sense... perhaps this would be less confusing, from a user standpoint: MAC Address - Enter the BMC's MAC Address here if you are NOT using DHCP to assign BMC IP Addresses ** Changed in: maas Status: Incomplete = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: maas (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
I read Julian's comment as meaning that specifying the MAC address can be more reliable if DHCP *IS* used to assign BMC IP addresses on a crowded LAN. If this is correct, I recommend something more like the following: MAC Address -- Enter the BMC's MAC address if its IP address is likely to change, as for instance if it's assigned via DHCP. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
When a BMC uses DHCP we can't be sure of its IP address at any moment in time. Using a MAC address is better in this situation because the IP address can be discovered from that. If the BMC has a statically assigned IP address, or the DHCP server has been configured to assign it a stable address, then either the MAC or the IP addresses can be given. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Julian: THAT makes more sense... perhaps this would be less confusing, from a user standpoint: MAC Address - Enter the BMC's MAC Address here if you are NOT using DHCP to assign BMC IP Addresses ** Changed in: maas Status: Incomplete = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
I read Julian's comment as meaning that specifying the MAC address can be more reliable if DHCP *IS* used to assign BMC IP addresses on a crowded LAN. If this is correct, I recommend something more like the following: MAC Address -- Enter the BMC's MAC address if its IP address is likely to change, as for instance if it's assigned via DHCP. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: maas (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
When a BMC uses DHCP we can't be sure of its IP address at any moment in time. Using a MAC address is better in this situation because the IP address can be discovered from that. If the BMC has a statically assigned IP address, or the DHCP server has been configured to assign it a stable address, then either the MAC or the IP addresses can be given. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Bug 1279460 is related to this. Though not directly relevant, it does add some context. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Bug 1279460 is related to this. Though not directly relevant, it does add some context. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Let me explain what it means and then maybe that will help me to understand which part is confusing you. When a BMC is using DHCP, its address can change at any time at the whim of the DHCP server. It usually doesn't, which is why it normally works but on a busy network that is using all of its IPs that won't be the case. To get around this, MAAS allows you to enter the BMCs MAC address instead and uses ARP to look up the IP for that MAC. This is a lot more reliable in the face of changing IPs, however it requires that the ARP table is populated so may not always work. ** Also affects: maas Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: maas Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1304518] Re: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data
Let me explain what it means and then maybe that will help me to understand which part is confusing you. When a BMC is using DHCP, its address can change at any time at the whim of the DHCP server. It usually doesn't, which is why it normally works but on a busy network that is using all of its IPs that won't be the case. To get around this, MAAS allows you to enter the BMCs MAC address instead and uses ARP to look up the IP for that MAC. This is a lot more reliable in the face of changing IPs, however it requires that the ARP table is populated so may not always work. ** Also affects: maas Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: maas Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1304518 Title: Confusing wording in the IPMI section of node power data To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1304518/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs