[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Unknown => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 Title: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Medium => Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 Title: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
This bug was fixed in the package xserver-xorg-video-ati - 1:6.9.0+git20081003.f9826a56-0ubuntu6 --- xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:6.9.0+git20081003.f9826a56-0ubuntu6) jaunty; urgency=low * Add 104_use_exa.patch: Switches to EXA acceleration by default. + See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Blueprints/RadeonXaaToExa + Should close the following bugs (please reopen if not): LP: #227936, #269357, 68224 110384 132707 -- Bryce HarringtonFri, 19 Dec 2008 19:46:27 -0800 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
After today's upgrade of the package xserver-xorg-driver-ati to 1:6.9.0+git20081003.f9826a56-0ubuntu2, the compiz performance in EXA mode increases a lot. And the "MigrationHeuristic" option is no longer needed. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
xserver 1.5.1 with the aforementioned EXA fix was released, so the EXA vs XAA comparisons should be redone with the latest updates (I can't do it ATM). -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Current LiveCD boots again. However EXA/XAA are still slower than in Ubuntu 8.04 with backported drm/ati driver/mesa. EXA is about 2x slower, XAA is 20% slower than 8.04. Part of the problem may be this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-September/038540.html (see full thread) http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/xserver.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4762c0245ed2966606171cf27f40aa745fdc76e (xorg patch) -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
In addition, 2d performance is better without compiz. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Attachment added: "gtkperf EXA" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17487860/gtkperf%20EXA -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Attachment added: "gtkperf XAA" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17487783/gtkperf%20XAA -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Attachment added: "gtkperf compiz EXA" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/1748/gtkperf%20compiz%20EXA -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
In an updated Intrepid alpha 5, XAA (default) is better than EXA. I did some tests with/without compiz using XAA/EXA using gtkperf. I have ATI IGP340M. Here are the results. ** Attachment added: "gtkperf compiz XAA" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17487775/gtkperf%20compiz%20XAA -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Hi, just some notes to add: When using the latest radeon drm module (1.29, included since linux 2.6.26) and a recent version of the -ati driver “MigrationHeuristic” should not be used. See also this post of ati developer Alex Deucher: http://www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=28 There is a nice program that could be used to test 2D performance (either with or without compiz): http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download In hardy with backported mesa, ati and drm I get about 3x performance with EXA rather than XAA with my RV530. With intrepid alpha 4 I get really bad performance, both with EXA and XAA (I suspect that it was due to a missing patch that fixes a problem with PAT, fixed in 2.6.27). Since intrepid got 2.6.27 this kernel no longer boots on my machine (this is another bug) and can't do testing. It could be nice to report tests of gtkperf on intrepid alpha5, with or without EXA (and eventually “MigrationHeuristic”) and with or without compiz on different cards to see what is the fastest combination that could be used for intrepid. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
My laptop will brake down soon, so I'm not sure if I will be able to report again on this bug, sorry -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
I don't know, but I had to patch it myself on -intel because it was considered a workaround for the true issue (and thus in that case it would cover up a bug - but at the distro level covering up a bug is a good thing). Just wondering if it's the same situation here. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Triaged -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
I don't know if it has any negative effect. But why is it not default in the driver? Maybe it would just cover up some bug - from what I understand it should not be needed any longer. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Tormod, any reason not to include MigrationHeuristic=greedy by default? We found it benefitted -intel during Hardy and caused relatively few problems. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Sorry, that grep was not so useful, try this: grep -A6 EXA.*support /media/hardy/var/log/Xorg.0.log -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
I definitely "feel" a difference, especially with firefox, but also in the overall compiz performance. Now for the first time, my desktop not only looks good with compiz, but is also still usable (after all, the laptop has more juice than the first iBooks with MacOS X accelerated GUI *g*) I get this from my Xorg log: $ grep EXA /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" (**) RADEON(0): Using EXA acceleration architecture (==) RADEON(0): Not using accelerated EXA DownloadFromScreen hook (II) RADEON(0): Setting EXA maxPitchBytes (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 56188928 bytes (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Alex said it should not be needed when EXA has composite support. According to my logs, it has already. Try: grep EXA /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Back again... I tried it without the MigrationHeuristic=greedy option. I have the impression that it is slower without it, and there's much more CPU load. Then I turned it on again, and e.g. scrolling in firefox is more responsive with it. I also found this explaination for it: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MigrationHeuristic Ciao Martin -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
See the upstream bug for Alex' explanation. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
I'll try it out later. Just out of curiosity: What does MigrationHeuristic mean? The man-page does not mention it. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
Martin, is MigrationHeuristic still needed? -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 132707] Re: (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance
I just added the EXA and MigrationHeuristic options on my laptop (T41p with FireGLT2, running current intrepid i386), and the desktop effects are now way faster! Without them, the effects, or e.g. scrolling in firefox, produced quite some CPU load and were slow. -- (NEED EXA): r100 / r200 / r300: poor compiz performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132707 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
