[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Ubiquity creates space for enough kernels. The system is not managing that space later. Not ubiquity's fault. These two issues together create the problem on a small /boot partition: apt: apt-get remove/purge/autoremove is blocked by the (always-failing) kernel install (not enough space on device) unattended-upgrade: 'autoremove' is disabled by default. Adding both packages to the bug report. Removing ubiquity. Workaround - How users can recover from the problem: - You can use dpkg to manually remove older kernels until apt has enough space to work, or - You can use dpkg --set selections to un-select the kernel packages for install, then run apt-get autoremove Workaround - How users can prevent recurrence after successful recovery: - You can enable autoremoval in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades , or - You can mark your wall calendar and manually run apt-get autoremove every few months -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
apt-get remove/purge/autoremove is blocked by the (always-failing) kernel install (not enough space on device) ** Package changed: ubiquity (Ubuntu) => apt (Ubuntu) ** Also affects: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Firstly, me too, this is super annoying. As a rule of thumb any 'feature' that *requires* the user to drop to CLI to put in regular manual commands *to keep the system secure and updated* ... in a desktop / consumer OS... is a bug. It seems there are separate issues here that could be addressed separately: 1. the auto setup does not intelligently ask/warn about its default of setting up a very small /boot 2. there exists no user-friendly auto cleanup for the things clogging up /boot 3. the /boot does not have any elegant way of automatically (or via a setting) "overflowing" into the (usually abundant) storage space outside of /boot for its old kernel data etc 4. when the "full, cannot update any more" problem occurs, there is no useful feedback or suggestion or wizard from the OS for the user... just essentially a FU message. 5. apparently there is not an "easy" way to resize /boot to allow more crap to accumulate and thus postpone the problem... if there *is* an easy way then see (4) it should be provided then and there to the user; if there is *not* an easy way then this proves the point that this is not a trivial bug. Addressing at least one of these would help the problem, and all could be worked on. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
same here, Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit, encrypted [as opposed to the LVM]. Installed about 2015/09/15, and the Update Manager refuses installing already the very first update to the Kernel package(s), i.e., from 3.19.0.28.27 to 3.19.0.30.29. · · · [I know it's off-topic here, but is there any way round except reinstalling of the whole system? Which btw I know now I have to do manually :) ] -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Someone give me the advise to use the LVM option on a fresh Xubuntu 15.04 install so i did. Use one internal drive, a 256GB SSD and a 2TB network drive (small NAS) for external storage. Hope there will be a fix to autoremove those old kernels from /boot partitions before upgrading a new one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
I have this problem but removing old kernels was only partly successful, probably because I used rm and not apt-get method. In fact, if you have a laptop, why use LVM at all? You are scarcely going to wander around with an external hard disk attached to it for the extension to a logical volume. The installer needs to be a lot smarter about people's level of knowledge re partitions and kernels, and give options for adjusting some of the parameters, e.g. LVM v. normal partitions, size of /boot, guided removal of old kernels, perhaps keeping three consecutive updates (including the current working kernel). I just went through a torrid attempt to use Gparted (doesn't recognise LVM lv's) and system-config-lvm (which shows the swap and boot partitions at one end of the sda5 red cylinder, and the logical view, which shows them at the OTHER end of the blue cylinder). I am totally lost in techhead space so am resorting to a new install to "fix" this problem. I chose Ubuntu over Fedora, SuSE and all the rest because it seemed the most novice-friendly, but this ordeal has proved me wrong. 8^) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
This bug comes up again and again on Askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171209/my-boot-partition-hit-100-and-now-i-cant-upgrade-cant-remove-old-kernels-to http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition http://askubuntu.com/questions/89710/how-do-i-free-up-more-space-in-boot http://askubuntu.com/questions/528081/boot-partition-full http://askubuntu.com/questions/340584/boot-is-full-cant-get-apt-get-to-upgrade http://askubuntu.com/questions/635798/boot-partition-full-failing-to-delete-old-kernels-broken-packages It's causing a lot of people a lot of problems. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Trying this on a Dell Inspiron 15 7547 running 100% Ubuntu (No dual booting). We're unable to upgrade from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 due to this error. We've tried >sudo apt-get clean >sudo apt-get autoremove and nothing has worked. We don't want to get left behind on software updates, so fixing the problem is a high priority. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Same problem as indicated above on 14.04 LTS. Why are "old" kernels left on a drive that is too small to begin with? Thank you in advance for fixing it. If fix would allow to expand partition (at least double it) and remove "old" kernels, this would be great! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Increasing the boot partition does not solve the underlying problem of old kernels. Is the size large enough now to accommodate enough kernels? If it is, we should tackle the real problem of removing old kernels. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
This bug is tedious. /boot holds only 3 kernels for me and it seems there is a new kernel every couple of weeks. So, each time, I need to go and delete the previous 1-2 manually. Why do I have to babysit my machine? Lucky I do not want to do unattended upgrades. Resizing /boot with LVM requires much hoop-jumping (good luck for a beginner) and only slows down how often this happens. Please can old kernels be auto-removed properly (And/or /boot sized a bit more sensibly by default?). There is a "latest" kernel metapackage. Can we have a "previous1" and/maybe "previous2" as well - then everything else can just go, right? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Added my +1 as it affects me to. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Same problem here for some months now on 14.04 Studio. Autoremove and bleachbit don't deal with it. Manual cleanup around the November timeframe last year got me to the March cycle of updates before /boot was overloaded again. Problem appears to me to be centered on the fact the old ver. are not being removed completely. Using synaptic to get rid of older ver. only seems to clear a fraction of the reported image size. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
boot partition fills up with updates of kernel. autoremove does not remove previous kernels -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Correction. APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant and APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant are only used by aptitude. apt-get just recycles the values of APT::Install-Recommends and APT::Install-Suggests when deciding which packages should be autoremoved. apt-get's behaviour is also affected by an undocumented and unused option APT::Install-Recommends-Sections that allows autoinstalling/autoremoval of Recommends to be restricted to certain archive sections. Nevertheless, since APT::Install-Recommends is usually set to true on Ubuntu, the point 2) from my previous comment still applies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Link to yet another forum thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256479
The problem is twofold.
1) Users not paying attention to apt-get saying:
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
...
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
like in the thread linked above.
2) Systems where linux-
image--{generic,server,goldfish,lowlatency} don't get suggested
for autoremoval after upgrade to newer versions of
linux-{generic,server,goldfish,lowlatency}/linux-
image-{generic,server,goldfish,lowlatency}. Mostly because some dkms-
based kernel-modules are installed like NVIDIA/AMD propietary video
drivers or VirtualBox. dkms recommends virtual package linux-image
provided by each and every linux-
image--{generic,server,goldfish,lowlatency}. That prevents
their autoremoval as long as dkms is installed and apt is configured not
to autoremove recommended packages
(Apt::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant).
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[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Assignee: Donald Tripp (dtlongrifles) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
I have this problem with Xubuntu 14.04 ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Donald Tripp (dtlongrifles) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Especially a problem when setting up systems for clients, who you only visit once or twice a year. The kernel updates fill the boot partition fast and so users are warned at the start that no space is left. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
The issue here isn't so much the absolute space initially allocated to the /boot/ LV, it is that the installer allocates 100% of the Volume Groups space. The great advantage of LVM is that space can by dynamically allocated and removed from Logical Volumes as needed. If the installer were to leave 5% of the Volume Group unallocated it would be possible for the system to detect this out-of-space condition and extend the /boot/ LV: lvextend -l 50%FREE VG/boot resize2fs /dev/mapper/VG-boot # assuming ext file-system and at the same time display a prominent warning and options for automatically removing the superseded kernel versions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1357093] Re: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition
Just dealt with the problem of an affected user here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240240 But I guess adding myself to the "Affects Me" list would be cheating? Since it is not me who is affected. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: LVM or Encrypted install creates too small /boot partition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
