[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michał Sawicz]

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: High => Critical

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

** No longer affects: unity8

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Nick Dedekind]

I don't think we need to worry about this re profiles. The
implementation of what the options in Settings do is a design/backend
decision. I believe the defaults are correct already.

That said, we should enable the indicator profile switching.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

For the record, the latest version of unity8 in vivid
(8.02+15.04.20150211-0ubuntu1) internally supports greeter profiles.
I'm waiting on the design for System Settings before flipping the switch
inside to start using it.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

OK, after looking at this some more, I'm not going to implement comment
#26 yet.  There was one case left off that complicated matters (locked
and A is on but B is off -- in this case, we'd enable indicators even
though they asked us not to?  We could disable A when B is off, but they
are in separate screens and not obviously connected).

So my current thinking is to land a branch that enables all the
underpinnings of the shell changing profiles on the fly, but just not
use it quite yet until the settings panel design is done.  This support
would also be useful for a split greeter.  So it's all good changes.
But I'm going to hold off on actually using the dynamic profile
switching logic.

So to be clear, I'm not going to make the A option visible yet, nor
change how B disables/enables the indicators when locked.  But I will
land some code that makes such changes much easier in future.

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Re: [Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Olga Kemmet]

Hi Michael

We are currently working on a solution regarding comment #30.
Most likely Paty is going to be the person working on indicators and
greeter related stuff. However, we are in the mids of prepping for the Cape
Town sprint, and a lot of designs are work in progress.
Just go ahead with your plan and we will keep you posted.

Oh, btw Paty meet Michael and Michael meet Paty. :)

Cheers
-ok

On 4 February 2015 at 18:50, Michael Terry 
wrote:

> OK well I'm going to go ahead and try to finish this work up by
> implementing what's in comment #26.  Comment #30 lays out a simpler
> configuration screen, but it's not clear to me how final that is, or
> when it will be.  So unless I hear otherwise, I'm going to start with
> #26.  Olga, let me know when you & your team are ready to sign off on
> something like #30.
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> Title:
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>
> Status in The Date and Time Indicator:
>   Invalid
> Status in The Messaging Menu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in Transfer Indicator:
>   Fix Released
> Status in Ubuntu UX bugs:
>   Fix Released
> Status in The Unity 8 shell:
>   Fix Released
> Status in gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in indicator-datetime package in Ubuntu:
>   Invalid
> Status in indicator-messages package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in indicator-sound package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in indicator-transfer package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in ubuntu-system-settings package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu:
>   In Progress
> Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu RTM:
>   New
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> Bug description:
>   A recent change in the interest of security removed access to the
>   indicators when the phone is locked and the greeter is showing.
>
>   This was an accentual change based on a misunderstanding
>
>   There had been a plan to support media playback control via the sound
>   indicator. Without this the user must unlock the phone in order to
>   simply pause the music or change songs, etc.
>
>   
>   Desired resolution:
>
>   - Revert the change that caused this issue
>
>   - Add a switch to System Settings to enable security conscious user to
>   switch off Launcher and Greeter access while the phone is locked.
>   This setting should *always* be off by default.
>   
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

OK well I'm going to go ahead and try to finish this work up by
implementing what's in comment #26.  Comment #30 lays out a simpler
configuration screen, but it's not clear to me how final that is, or
when it will be.  So unless I hear otherwise, I'm going to start with
#26.  Olga, let me know when you & your team are ready to sign off on
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Olga Kemmet]

"And the default for A should be off and the default for B should be on?"
I would say yes, at least for the time being.
Maybe an easier overview of these settings for the user is needed. 
[A] - always allow
[B] - restricted access
[C] - no access
They obviously will need better wording and some explanation to users what they 
set. :) 
The default would be [A]. And anything else can be set by the user. I feel that 
currently it is rather confusing.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

OK.  I assume that means we should continue implementing it...  Then I
need answers to the questions in comment #26.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

It's not that I don't like them, I just think they're not a good use of
time when it's fairly likely that the indicator menus will soon be
simplified drastically. But I see from this bug report that the profiles
have mostly been implemented already, so that argument no longer
applies.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

mpt mentioned to me in email that he doesn't like the idea of the
limited indicators at all.  (sorry, trying to move ad-hoc email
discussions here, but sent wrong bug link to them at first)

Can we get some unified design guidance in this bug?

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

I emailed Olga these questions, but figured it would be good to clear
this up here too:

I see from the discussion in bug 237155 (particularly comment 20), that
it looks like the three settings should be controlled like so:

(A) There is a currently hidden property in System Settings called "Messages on 
welcome screen" that should be shown.
(B) There is also a property called "When locked, allow notifications and quick 
settings"

- Full indicators [1] will be used when the phone is unlocked (i.e. swipe mode) 
OR A and B are on.
- Limited indicators [2] will be used when the phone is locked and A is off but 
B is on.
- No indicator access will be used when the phone is locked and A and B are off.

And the default for A should be off and the default for B should be on?

[1] This is the "phone" indicator profile
[2] This is the "phone_greeter" indicator profile

How correct is all that?  If correct, having setting A be off by default
might confuse users.  I feel like it should be under an "if locked"
clause too.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michał Sawicz]

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => In Progress

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Michael Terry (mterry)

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michał Sawicz]

There is at least a unity8 branch that did not get released yet:
lp:~mterry/unity8/greeter-profiles, not sure why the status was Fix
Released for it.

It shouldn't be Fix Released for ubuntu-ux either, should it?

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Changed in: ubuntu-ux
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

** No longer affects: indicator-sound

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package indicator-sound -
12.10.2+15.04.20141105-0ubuntu1

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indicator-sound (12.10.2+15.04.20141105-0ubuntu1) vivid; urgency=medium

  [ Ted Gould ]
  * Remove various Vala warnings
  * Show notifications on volume change (LP: #1378564, #1378961)
  * Warn on high audio levels when using headphones (LP: #1232633, #1373404)
  * service.vala: don't call set_volume unnecessarily (LP: #1381871)
  * Integration test for audio roles
  * Integration test for silent mode
  * Ensure the greeter menu matches whether song metadata should be shown,
and update the metadata based on the new setting. (LP: #1358340)
 -- Ubuntu daily releaseWed, 05 Nov 2014 
17:56:29 +

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/vivid-proposed/indicator-sound

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-transfer
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-sound/mega-merge

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package indicator-transfer -
0.1+15.04.20141103-0ubuntu1

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  [ Ted Gould ]
  * Fix menu path cut-and-paste error (LP: #1358340)
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** Changed in: indicator-transfer (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/indicator-transfer
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package indicator-messages -
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  [ Ted Gould ]
  * Add filtering for lock screen. (LP: #1358340)

  [ Lars Uebernickel ]
  * libmessaging-menu: allow numbers in object paths (LP: #1384811)
  * libmessaging-menu: fix section link in the documentation and add
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-09
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-23

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Jamie Strandboge]

That sounds quite reasonable. Thanks for the update.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

So we're basically looking at it as three levels:

1) Everything on lock screen. You like that, dont' care.
2) Reduced data, stuff is there, but it shouldn't be a really egregious leak or 
control things.
3) No Indicators

Basically the "MessagesWelcomeScreen" toggles between the first two.
Then the no indicators setting will turn on 3 or not. So for those who
are very worried about security they can turn off indicators entirely.
For those who'd like them to be a bit more restricted but still
available we can reduce the data set. And for those who live on a desert
island by themselves they have the full monty option as well.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

Looked and there doesn't seem to be any actions for datetime.

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-datetime
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-transfer
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-transfer
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted)

** Changed in: indicator-transfer (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-transfer (Ubuntu)
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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-transfer/fix-greeter-path

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

Note: silo 13 is gathering all the pieces for this.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Jamie Strandboge]

"So I'm interpreting this as "Messages on Welcome Screen" is related to
the data being shown on the welcome screen. Where the messages and
notification settings is a Unity setting which just blocks the whole
panel."

I'm confused by this comment. The information presented in the
inforgraphics/welcome screen is considerably different than those in the
indicators as mentioned here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-
phone/msg09966.html.

I'm very much hoping that these won't be grouped under a single
checkbox. Infographics by default seems fine since there is no specific
information that can be gleaned, but I recognize some people will want
to disable it. Indicators, particularly those for messaging, calendar
and connecting to networks via indicator-network, should be different.
Messaging and calendar should be configurable, but indicator-network
should not. (Please see aforementioned thread for context).

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-sound/lp1358340-greeter-data

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Antti Kaijanmäki]

** Tags removed: touch-2014-09-25
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-02

** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-02
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-09

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted)

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted)

** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-messages
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ted Gould (ted)

** Changed in: indicator-sound
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone

So I'm interpreting this as "Messages on Welcome Screen" is related to
the data being shown on the welcome screen. Where the messages and
notification settings is a Unity setting which just blocks the whole
panel.

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

** Tags removed: touch-2014-09-11
** Tags added: touch-2014-09-25

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Victor Tuson Palau]

please retarget this

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Stephen M. Webb]

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-transfer (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-transfer (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Thomas Strehl]

** Tags removed: touch-2014-08-28
** Tags added: touch-2014-09-11

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package unity8 - 8.00+14.10.20140903.1~rtm-
0ubuntu1

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  [ Nick Dedekind ]
  * Support for nested prompt session. (LP: #1358388)
 -- Ubuntu daily releaseWed, 03 Sep 2014 
07:58:49 +

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michał Sawicz]

** Also affects: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

** Changed in: unity8
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package unity8 -
8.00+14.10.20140828.1-0ubuntu1

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unity8 (8.00+14.10.20140828.1-0ubuntu1) utopic; urgency=low

  [ Michael Terry ]
  * Reverse default for the user option "allow launcher/panel in greeter
when locked." And allow that property to be controlled by an
AccountsService property. (LP: #1358340) (LP: #1358340)
  * With recent password support, we want to be able to unlock the
device even with a password set. And we need to be able to do this
once the new adbd lands. So I've added a DBus command to hide the
greeter. This should be secure because all apps are constrained and
if you're on the local session bus unconstrained, you already have
access to anything you want.
 -- Ubuntu daily releaseThu, 28 Aug 2014 
20:06:41 +

** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-system-settings -
0.3+14.10.20140828.3-0ubuntu1

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ubuntu-system-settings (0.3+14.10.20140828.3-0ubuntu1) utopic; urgency=low

  [ Michael Terry ]
  * Implement the "When locked, allow:" portion of the Security &
Privacy panel, so now the user can control whether the launcher
and/or indicators are available while locked. (LP: #1358340) (LP:
#1358340)
 -- Ubuntu daily releaseThu, 28 Aug 2014 
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** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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This bug was fixed in the package gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas -
0.0.3+14.10.20140827-0ubuntu1

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urgency=medium

  [ Michael Terry ]
  * Add EnableLauncherWhileLocked and EnableIndicatorsWhileLocked properties
to com.ubuntu.AccountsService.SecurityPrivacy (LP: #1358340)
 -- Ubuntu daily releaseWed, 27 Aug 2014 
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** Changed in: gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/utopic-proposed/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-
schemas

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/utopic-proposed/ubuntu-system-settings

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/utopic-proposed/unity8

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Pat McGowan]

** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Michael Terry (mterry)

** Tags added: rtm14 touch-2014-08-28

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-messages/lp1358340-greeter-data-
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

** Branch linked: lp:~mterry/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/interactive-
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** Branch linked: lp:~mterry/ubuntu-system-settings/interactive-while-
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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Michael Terry]

** Also affects: gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1358340] Re: [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

[Ted Gould]

Added bug tasks for the indicators that need greeter profiles as
discussed above.

** Summary changed:

- [Indicators] are not available when the phone is locked
+ [Indicators] Complete greeter profiles

** Also affects: indicator-sound
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-datetime
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-transfer
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-messages
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-datetime
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-transfer
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: indicator-datetime
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: indicator-transfer
   Importance: Undecided => High

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