[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-09-12 Thread Harald Sitter
+1 on Timo's Won't Fix

** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-09-11 Thread Jonathan Thomas
** Changed in: xserver-xgl
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-09-06 Thread Timo Aaltonen
xserver-xgl has been deprecated upstream, and removed from Intrepid.
Closing the bug as won't fix.

** Changed in: xserver-xgl (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-06-02 Thread Rommel Oliveira
I have the same problem and the same solution
I use Ubuntu 8.04 and my videocard is ATI Radeon XPress 200M. What happens 
next? 

Rommel Oliveira, BRAZIL

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-05-01 Thread LimCore
I seem to have simmilar/same problem
Ubuntu 8.04 amd64, nvidia 8600gt, nvidia's binary driver;  
KDE is slooowww (drawing a START menu takes 3 seconds etc)
gnome is ok (apart from XGL crashing all the time, as reported in different 
bugs)

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-03-26 Thread Arnaud Blouin
I do not have this problem anymore since a while on Gusty in an ATI card
an compiz.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2008-01-14 Thread Arnaud Blouin
Same problem here with Ubuntu 7.10, ATI card (restricted drivers), XGL session 
and without Compiz.
It sucks with Kile, Kdenlive, Konsole (QT issue?)

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-12-26 Thread Thomas K
why would you use Xgl otherwise?

Because changes made for Gutsy mean that, if you have it installed, it
will start automatically. I had it installed for playing around with
Compiz in Feisty, but usually used plain Xorg with kwin. I've had to
uninstall it to use Gutsy effectively.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-12-25 Thread positivek
To be sure, this is not only a KDE issue.  I am also having this problem
on Gnome: No Compiz -- *slow* OpenOffice.org; Compiz -- Fast.  Let me
know if it's useful to provide any other information...

Gnome window manager
Running Compiz + restricted ATI drivers, Desktop Effects enabled
Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 fresh install
Linux machname 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux 
Compal CL56 notebook/laptop, Pentium M
Installed/using xserver-xgl in order to work around driver bugs (re: Chris 
Halse Rogers wrote on 2007-10-21)
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting 
LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-12-25 Thread Travis Watkins
Is there even a bug here? Xgl is meant to be used with compiz, why would
you use Xgl otherwise?

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-11-16 Thread Shea McCombs
I can confirm this problem, but I do not have XGL installed.  I am using
Ubuntu 7.10, nvidia 7800.  Desktop effects are disabled.  I have
recorded a video to illustrate the difference:

http://upvector.com/kate_slow.avi

Kate is on the right (obviously).  It is essentially unusable, as are
all of the other KDE apps I use.

Notes:
- I am using the a driver downloaded from nvidia manually, installed with Envy 
(I am new to this Envy thing).  While I typically downloaded the nvidia drivers 
in Ubuntu 7.04 as well, I always installed them using their provided installer 
only.  Unfortunately, the restricted nvidia driver provided in the repositories 
incorrectly detects and sets my 1920x1200 display to 1600x1200, even if I 
manually force it to use 1920x1200 in various ways, but that's another issue 
for another bug.
- Kate was quite fast in the time I've been using Ubuntu prior to 7.10, from 
5.04 to 7.04.
- While Gtk-based applications seem to be generally slower than they were in 
7.04 (I have no data to back that up), they all run at a usable speed, unlike 
Kate and other KDE applications.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-11-16 Thread Shea McCombs
I also wanted to mention that this was a clean installation of 7.10 to a
new drive, not an upgrade from 7.04.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-11-05 Thread Martin Eisenhardt
Same over herewith Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon on Intel i910/5.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-26 Thread Thomas K
XGL is required to run compositing window managers like Compiz, at least
on some graphics cards.

(For the time being, I've opted out of compiz/xgl, in favour of
stability. Oh, and also bug 147642 )

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-25 Thread Jorge Juan
I think it may be related to direct rendering being available or not:

glxinfor | grep direct

NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
- direct rendering: No
- behaves as described in the previous post

NVIDIA GeForce 6200
- direct rendering: Yes
- window drawing is always fast (both with compiz and without it)
- video playback is OK without compiz.
- video is corrupt (just a colour pattern) with compiz on in both totem an 
gxine.

Can you check your direct rendering configuration?

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-25 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
It is indirectly related to direct rendering being available: when
you're using Xgl, clients under Xgl don't get direct rendering.

On your GeForce 6200 you're not using Xgl, so you obviously don't see
this Xgl bug.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-25 Thread Jorge Juan
I see. I thought xserver-xgl was standard in Gutsy. I forgot I had it installed 
manually some time ago.
Maybe not the right place to ask but, why would someone prefer xserver-xgl over 
xserver-xorg?

Thanks.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-24 Thread Thomas K
People are using Xgl because the upgrade to Gutsy makes them use XGL by
default (at least, it did for me). I assume this is because Ubuntu (with
GNOME) is using Compiz by default. Kubuntu still uses kwin, but also now
seems to have XGL enabled.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-24 Thread Travis Watkins
No, they're using it because at some point they installed it and forgot.
With the upgrade to gutsy just having xserver-xgl installed is enough to
automatically have it start being used.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-24 Thread Nikolay Pavlov
I am not sure. But i suspect KDE-3.5.8 upgrade on 7.04. I've done it
right before 7.10 release. But in any case i've never install xserver-
xgl explicitly. Also it's not default for Gutsy, because it's not listed
as a dependency.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-24 Thread Jorge Juan
Same problem.

Using Ubuntu Gutsy (it was not there in Feisty)
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

It can be summarized as:

- Compiz disabled: some applications draw very slowly: qt-based,
openoffice, maybe others. Video playback in totem and others is buggy:
moving images seem broken by a diagonal line from top-left to botton-
right and some other artifacts caused by some parts of the image been
drawn before other parts. Specially visible in 1680x1050 full screen.

- Compiz enabled: now redraw is fast. Video playback in a windows seems
ok, but consumes above 90% CPU in a AMD Athlon XP 2600. Video at full
screen is also buggy, maybe becouse glx is disabled in full screen.

This issue makes video playback buggy at fullscreen in any case, and
many applications to work slowly without compiz enabled. I think its
importance should be more than low.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-21 Thread mwanstall
I am also having this problem, NVidia Driver for Geforce4. Removing XGL
fixes the problem but I'd rather not have it removed.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
Strange; I knew about terrible performance of the fglrx drivers under
Xgl without Compiz.  Obviously the QT toolkit is doing something that is
slow under Xgl without a Composite manager (such as Compiz).

Since this only appears in Xgl without compiz, why are people using Xgl?
It's only really useful for running Compiz (and working around driver
bugs while using Compiz), or for people using the fglrx drivers who also
want kwin's Composite manager functionality.  Marking as low priority,
and I'll forward this upstream.

** Changed in: xserver-xgl (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-21 Thread mwanstall
I had assumed it was the reason I couldn't get Compiz to work! I'm
trying to run Compiz Fusion and I can't get it to work, getting the
white screen, even though my nvidia card seems to be working okay when I
try glxgears...

Are these separate issues?

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
Problems running Compiz are unrelated to this bug.  An all-white screen
when running Compiz under Xgl generally indicates that you've manually
installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, and they've overwritten
some important libraries without backing them up.  Reinstalling all the
various mesa libraries (you can search for them in Synaptic) and then
installing one of the Ubuntu-packaged nvidia drivers (from the
Restricted Manager, for example) should fix that.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-19 Thread Nikolay Pavlov
I have the same problem. On my Dell Inspiron 1300. VIdeo Intel I915GM
When i am using it direct rendering is not enabled:

name of display: :1.0
display: :1  screen: 0
direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting 
LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe,
GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_imaging,
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite,
GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar,
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos,
GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate,
GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements,
GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3,
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3,
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate,
GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle,
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture,
GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x2c 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2d 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2e 32 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 Ncon
0x2f 32 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 Ncon


However when xserver-xgl disabled direct rendering is enabled:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX 

[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-19 Thread Jakarta
Same here, after removing xgl kde works with normal speed again. 
By the way compiz didn't work here too. NVidia Driver (NVIDIA FX5200).

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-19 Thread mlaverdiere
Just to be a little bit more precise, I solved the problem just by
removing the xerver-xgl package

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-19 Thread Thomas K
Now marked this bug as affecting xgl and kdebase - please someone remove
one of these if it is inappropriate.

It seems quite clear that something in KDE and/or QT is drawing very
slowly under XGL. Can *anyone* offer any convincing theory as to why
this might be, or suggest what might be done to correct it?

** Also affects: kdebase (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-19 Thread mlaverdiere
Same thing here on a Compaq Presario V2610Cas with ATI XPress 200M, with
opensource driver or ATI one.  Didn't try with Compiz though.  Things
seems to go wrong just after I start a KDE session with KDM:  the screen
is flashing a couple of times before the session starts Everything works
fine with Gnome.  Could it be something in the startkde script?

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-15 Thread Deepak Saxena
I've seen the same problem. Running the kernel's 'make menuconfig' inside a 
Konsole took over
5 seconds to draw!

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-15 Thread Thomas K
** Changed in: xserver-xgl
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: xserver-xgl (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None = xserver-xgl

** Changed in: xserver-xgl (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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kde apps draw very slowly
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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-09 Thread Thomas K
** Also affects: xserver-xgl
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-06 Thread Thomas K
Would it be a good idea to mark this bug as being related to a specific
package? In my (admittedly limited) experience, bugs get attention
faster if you specify a package.

I'd mark it as affecting kwin, although maybe it should go with xgl.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-04 Thread Thomas K
I'm having the same problems - ATI graphics card, non-free drivers
(fglrx).

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-10-03 Thread Ramon de Ruiter
I can confirm this. I run Ubuntu, but i also get this problem when i start Kate 
or K3b for example.
Xgl uses about 99% of my cpu when resizing so it's definitly got something to 
do with the new hardware based drawing stuff that's in Gutsy.

Starting compiz does indeed solve the slowness but changes my theme and enables 
all kinds of eye-candy i'm not interested in. 
Maybe the bug description isn't accurate and it might very well be a duplicate 
but i'm wondering why we are the only two people having these problems.

I'll be happy to help debugging this problem.

Also using the restricted Nvidia module by the way.

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[Bug 137401] Re: kde apps draw very slowly

2007-09-13 Thread lcampagn
Interesting update to this problem: starting compiz actually fixes the
problem. Everything is much faster..

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