[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-30 Thread Andy Whitcroft
** Changed in: linux-meta (Ubuntu Utopic)
 Assignee: Colin Ian King (colin-king) = Andy Whitcroft (apw)

** Changed in: linux-meta (Ubuntu Vivid)
 Assignee: Colin Ian King (colin-king) = Andy Whitcroft (apw)

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-30 Thread Andy Whitcroft
** Changed in: linux-meta (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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  consider dropping thermald to a Recommends: on linux-image-* meta
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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Brad Figg
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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Colin Ian King
We've moved to the intel-pstate driver by default for 14.10 which is an
improved frequency scaling driver.  On some hardware we've had evidence
of this pushing the CPU a little harder and some machines were running
hot, so we've also included thermald to stop thermal overruns.

Also, thermald has proved useful on 14.04 on some i7 based laptops that
have poor thermal designs, buggy thermal trip data, CPU thermal paste
issues or broken active cooling (such as fans).  These machines have
normally shutdown because of overheating.  Thermald kicks in passive
cooling to prevent thermal overruns on these broken machines.

However, it would be useful to uninstall this, so making it  recommended
is probably the best option.

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Colin Ian King
I forgot to mention that thermald does exit if the H/W or visualized H/W
does not support the necessary thermal controls, so on these systems
it's more like a no-op.

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Tim Gardner
** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu Utopic)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: Incomplete

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Utopic)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Utopic)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Colin Ian King (colin-king)

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Status: Incomplete = In Progress

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Vivid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Colin Ian King (colin-king)

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread ben thielsen
apport information

** Tags added: apport-collected utopic

** Description changed:

  i've just upgraded to 14.10, and i see that linux-image-generic now
  lists thermald as a dependency. is this really a genuine requirement
  now, that without which a computer cannot be used?
  
- can this be listed as a recommended or suggested dependency instead, so
- that it is not forced to be installed on computers which have no use for
- it?
+ can this be listed as a recommended or suggested dependency instead, so that 
it is not forced to be installed on computers which have no use for it?
+ --- 
+ AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 
k3.16.0-23-generic.
+ AplayDevices: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ ApportVersion: 2.14.7-0ubuntu8
+ Architecture: amd64
+ ArecordDevices: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ AudioDevicesInUse: Error: command ['fuser', '-v', '/dev/snd/by-path', 
'/dev/snd/pcmC0D4p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D3p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D2p', 
'/dev/snd/pcmC0D1p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p', 
'/dev/snd/controlC0', '/dev/snd/timer'] failed with exit code 1:
+ CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ Card0.Amixer.info: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ Card0.Amixer.values: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.10
+ HibernationDevice: RESUME=/dev/mapper/vg1-swap
+ IwConfig: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ Lspci: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ MachineType: Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation T3500
+ Package: linux (not installed)
+ PciMultimedia:
+  
+ ProcEnviron:
+  TERM=xterm-256color
+  PATH=(custom, no user)
+  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
+  SHELL=/bin/bash
+ ProcFB: 0 nouveaufb
+ ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic 
root=/dev/mapper/vg1-root ro nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
+ ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-23.31-generic 3.16.4
+ RelatedPackageVersions:
+  linux-restricted-modules-3.16.0-23-generic N/A
+  linux-backports-modules-3.16.0-23-generic  N/A
+  linux-firmware 1.138
+ RfKill: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
+ Tags:  utopic utopic utopic
+ Uname: Linux 3.16.0-23-generic x86_64
+ UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to utopic on 2014-10-28 (0 days ago)
+ UserGroups:
+  
+ WifiSyslog:
+  
+ _MarkForUpload: True
+ dmi.bios.date: 05/28/2013
+ dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.bios.version: A17
+ dmi.board.name: 09KPNV
+ dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.board.version: A00
+ dmi.chassis.type: 7
+ dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA17:bd05/28/2013:svnDellInc.:pnPrecisionWorkStationT3500:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn09KPNV:rvrA00:cvnDellInc.:ct7:cvr:
+ dmi.product.name: Precision WorkStation T3500
+ dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Andy Whitcroft
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Utopic)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Vivid)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 1387144] Re: why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald

2014-10-29 Thread Tim Gardner
** Package changed: linux (Ubuntu Utopic) = linux-meta (Ubuntu Utopic)

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