[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-22 Thread sudodus
** Description changed:

+ Edit:
+ 
+ This new syntax for boot options (alias this bug) affects also the
+ Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 LTS iso files. I tested the 32-bit version,
+ 
+ ubuntu-14.04.2-server-i386.iso
+ 
+ and it needed
+ 
+ ... forcepae -- forcepae
+ 
+ to work in my Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M.
+ 
+ Expect that there are other cases, where the boot option must be entered
+ twice!
+ 
+ I made the following wiki page to help users
+ 
+ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions/before--after
+ _
+ 
  I tried to install from the Ubuntu Vivid 32-bit mini.iso into a computer
  with Pentium M
  
  http://www.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-
  thinkpad-t42-2373/4507-3121_7-31155666.html
  
  and booted the installer with the forcepae boot option. This made the
  installer start and work until it should get the kernel. Then it stopped
  with the following message
  
  "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources ... Continue
  the installation without installing a kernel?"
  
  I checked if this is a PAE issue ... and yes, it is.
  
  Forcepae makes the installer work, but later on, during installation, it
  refuses to manage the [PAE] kernel. I tested, and it works in a computer
  with CPU with a built-in PAE flag. And the trusty mini.iso can install
  in the same computer with Pentium M, so this is a regression.
  
  At 'ctrl+alt+F4' it complains that the kernels found are not usable on
  486. But forcepae should allow it. And the same kernels work when
  installed with the corresponding daily Lubuntu Vivid desktop iso file.
  
  -o-
  
  This bug is reported from another computer, because I don't know how to
  report it from the mini.iso system. So you should disregard the
  collected data, that I might not be able to remove.
  
  ProblemType: Bug

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-22 Thread sudodus
This new syntax for boot options (alias this bug) affects the Ubuntu
Server 14.04.2 LTS iso files. I tested the 32-bit version,

ubuntu-14.04.2-server-i386.iso

and it needed

... forcepae -- forcepae

to work in my Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M.

Expect that there are other cases, where the boot option must be entered
twice!

I made the following wiki page to help users

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions/before--after

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-19 Thread Chris Bainbridge
> Is this new usage of boot options general?
> 
> 1. The entry before -- means that it will be used by the live system / the 
> installer
> 
> 2. The entry after -- means that it will be carried to and used by the 
> installed system

Yes that is correct.

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-19 Thread sudodus
I tested Lubuntu trusty-alternate-i386.iso (14.04.2 LTS) in my IBM
Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M, and this bug is squashed here too with this
double boot option.

I clicked F6 and ESC to get to the boot line and changed the end of it
from

... quiet --

to

... quiet forcepae -- forcepae

But the other red bug (1417918) must be solved by other methods.

-o-

It is funny that the corresponding Lubuntu desktop installer works with
the single boot option

... quiet -- forcepae

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-19 Thread sudodus
I tested the Ubuntu Vivid daily 32-bit mini.iso (dated feb 9) in my IBM
Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M, and it works for me too with this double
boot option.

I clicked tab to get to the boot line.

I edited the boot line from

> linux vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz -- quiet

to

> linux vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz forcepae -- quiet forcepae

and the installation of a minimal text system worked for me.

Thank you very much for helping us to solve this problem, Chris :-)

-o-

Is this new usage of boot options general?

1. The entry before -- means that it will be used by the live system /
the installer

2. The entry after -- means that it will be carried to and used by the
installed system

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-19 Thread Chris Bainbridge
The problem is not PAE, the problem is that the kernel parameters parser
was changed as a result of the systemd debug params controversy.

You need to repeat the 'forcepae' twice in the linux kernel parameters,
before and after the -- i.e.:

linux ... forcepae -- forcepae

Kernel patch that changed the previous behaviour was:

commit 51e158c
Author: Rusty Russell 
Date:   Mon Apr 28 11:34:33 2014 +0930
param: hand arguments after -- straight to init

The kernel parses parameters from the kernel command line up to "--";
if it doesn't recognize a parameter and it doesn't contain a '.', the
parameter gets passed to init: parameters with '=' go into init's
environment, others are passed as command line arguments to init.
Everything after "--" is passed as an argument to init.

With "forcepae -- forcepae" I did a full install of the Vivid ISO link
above. It worked ok.

(There was a non-related bug, Ubuntu/grub puts "vt.handoff=7" in
grub.cfg which causes a black screen on boot - looks like bug #913731 or
some related regression).

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-18 Thread Chris Bainbridge
Joseph Salisbury (jsalisbury) wrote 
> 12.04 is the last release that will support non-PAE.

This bug report is not about running non-PAE, it is about running PAE on
the Pentium M. Ubuntu 14.04 supports PAE on the Pentium M - the Ubuntu
Kernel Team merged the patch on 2014-03-06, shortly before 14.04 was
released - https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447/comments/284

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-18 Thread sudodus
I try to make it clear what works and what does not work with Pentium M and 
Celeron M processors that have PAE capability but lack the PAE flag.
_

These iso files work:

Ubuntu Trusty mini.iso (dated jan 30)
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/utopic-netboot/mini.iso

Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso (14.04.2 LTS release candidate dated feb 18 
01:08)
__

These iso files do not work:

Ubuntu Vivid mini.iso (dated feb 9)
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/installer-i386/20101020ubuntu363/images/netboot/mini.iso

Lubuntu trusty-alternate-i386.iso (14.04.2 LTS release candidate dated
feb 18 00:41)

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread sudodus
I tried: Neither apport-collect nor apt-get are available in the
alternate installer, so I can't run it and I don't know how to install
it.

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread sudodus
Someone managed to make you add the boot option forcepae, and it has
been used successfully until now.

Please fix what is probably a minor bug, to keep 14.04.x available for
computers with Pentium M and Celeron M processors !

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread Joseph Salisbury
12.04 is the last release that will support non-PAE.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Why don't you `apport-collect ` in the alternate then?1

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread sudodus
This same problem occurs during iso-testing for the point version
14.04.2 LTS

lubuntu-trusty-alternate-i386.iso

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread sudodus
Sorry,

apport-collect 1422675

does not work in the mini.iso system :-(

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 1422675] Re: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources

2015-02-17 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/1422675

** Tags added: iso-testing

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