[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Raphael Derosso Pereira]

I managed to use "downgrade" to nvidia-glx driver. The problem seems to
be on the package that fails to remove the control file /lib/linux-
restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed

This file is checked by lrm-video script to see if it needs to load
nvidia or nvidia_new

Just by installing nvidia-glx, removing the file mentioned and
restarting the system does the trick.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[clemsye]

hello, i have exactly the same problem see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-
modules-2.6.22/+bug/154843

a man said :"Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging and add info about;
 - How complete is the X failure?
+ Does ctrl+alt+f1 take you to a console?
+ Does ctrl+alt+backspace restart X?
+ Does mouse pointer still move?
+ Does the keyboard LED come on when hitting the CAPSLOCK key?
 - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 - /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 - /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
 - ~/.xsession-errors
 - output of lspci -vvnn"

ok so:
+Does ctrl+alt+f1 take you to a console? =no
+ Does ctrl+alt+backspace restart X?=no
+ Does mouse pointer still move?=no
+ Does the keyboard LED come on when hitting the CAPSLOCK key?=i don't 
understand what  you mean.
+ Is compiz active at the time of the crashes =Not necessarily, i have the 
both(compiz enabled or disabled) with the same frequency.

 - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 - /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 - /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
 - ~/.xsession-errors
 - output of lspci -vvnn"

where i can upload the file.?

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[sam tygier]

just to note the freezes occur with desktop effects disabled.
so the options are:
disable a core
downgrade drivers
switch to nv

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Re: [Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[OlivierP]

NVIDIA has already identified/acknowledged that there is a regression in the
100.14.11 & 100.14.19 drivers for G72 based cards (7300 Go, GS...)
 on certain systems:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1399253&postcount=36

Note that most of the time, when using 100.14.11/19, the freeze is hard
enough that you will be unable to switch to a console, or ssh to the box.
You may however be able to use the magic keys to cleanly sync/unmount/reboot
the box.
This 
linkwill
help you setup a netconsole, if you have a second box, and will help
capturing a stack trace of the kernel if/when it hangs.

If you do want to use the 100.14.11/19 drivers on a dual core systems and
avoid these freezes, you either will need to disable Desktop effects, or
boot with maxcpus=1 as a kernel option. This will disable your second core.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

So all subscribers of this bug need to follow the instructions on that
NVidia page and submit the reports accordingly -- as per instructions
sent from Lonni J Friedman of NVidia's Linux support.

I have just run through the entire list with no success.

Please ship off the log that the shell script generates.  Thank you.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

That was the initial response from NVidia's Linux bug email.

I don't know if it helps us much, but I would think we should at least
try to follow their bug trail path.

If everyone could send them a similar mail, it might help to get their
attention on the matter.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[sam tygier]

i tried idle=poll and it did not help. nothing else on that link seems
relivant. did you post the wrong link?

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

Hot off the NVidia presses:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=58498

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

I have sent off a bug report with a link to this thread to NVidia as I
strongly suspect it is a binary driver issue.  Hopefully we will get
this resolved.  At any rate, if anyone in this thread still has the
crashing driver installed, what would be of use is to send off a similar
mail to them with the output generated from their bug reporting script.
The following quote from their site:

"When emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], please attach an nvidia-bug-
report.log, which is generated by running "nvidia-bug-report.sh". "

That shell script can be found at /usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh

If anyone from Ubuntu's X team knows better, please inform us.

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RE: [Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[rick_in_kingston]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:01:51 +> Subject: [Bug 145112] Re: 
Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups>> Wow. Thanks for the 
reversion version number -- 09.>> Compiled the new binary nasty blob driver and 
so far no lockups.>> Also edited the Python to enable desktop effects.>> Thus 
far, stable with glx!>> Hopefully the driver will get resolved with the next 
version.>> To recap -- download the 09 series driver from Nvidia:> amd64 @ 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/100.14.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run>
 i386 @ http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html>> Get 
your compiling enabled and install the kernel sources:> sudo aptitude install 
build-essential linux-source>> Restart in your plain mode without X (recovery) 
and build the blob (failsafe X is a PITA):> sh ./NVIDIA>> And fix your 
xorg.conf as per your needs. For example:> Section "Module"> Load "glx"> Load 
"GLcore"> Load "v4l"> EndSection>> and change the driver to "nvidia" from 
whatever.>> WFM and will be a decent crutch until NVidia pulls their 
greymatter> together from the nether regions.>> --> Random NVidia Proprietary 
Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145112> You received 
this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber> of the bug.

09 has done the trick for me, I am testing both the 32 and 64 bit
versiond of Gutsy. Been working like a charm for 3 days now, no lockups
at all.


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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

Apparently one can install the archived driver with restricted installed
as well.

When I do a full purge on all of the restricted bits, /sbin/lrm-video
ceases to exist.  This will result in X generating the "lrm-video" not
found error when it attempts to load the NVidia module.  modprobe nvidia
will generate the same error.

I wasn't able to get the nvidia module to take with the restricted
packages installed -- the newly compiled libraries seemed to be awol.
Followed the blacklisting technique as well.  The commenting out of the
line pertains only to installations without the restricted packages.

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Re: [Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[OlivierP]

No errors here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video
# Make nvidia/nvidia_legacy and fglrx use /sbin/lrm-video to load
install fglrx /sbin/lrm-video fglrx $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_new /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_new $CMDLINE_OPTS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | grep -i nvidia.*kernel
[   20.212000] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.09  Sat
May 26 00:47:07 PDT 2007


Note that each time a new kernel comes through the repositories (including
the associated restricted modules) you will need to re-install the NVIDIA
provided kernel module.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

Just to clarify, you _will_ get an error with the NVidia module trying
to load thanks to some funky garbage that Ubuntu has stuck into the
modprobe script.  The new modprobe will attempt to use lrm-video to
launch the NVidia module.  This of course, won't work as lrm-video is
part of the restricted modules package.

To get around this, the fix is a relatively simple one:

Edit /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and comment out the 'nvidia' line

#install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS


This will enable the nvidia module to properly load.

It is a lot of hassle, and I suppose we can thank the proprietary
garbage drivers of NVidia -- as this bug would likely have been fixed
already had the source and documentation been open.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

Wow.  Thanks for the reversion version number -- 09.

Compiled the new binary nasty blob driver and so far no lockups.

Also edited the Python to enable desktop effects.

Thus far, stable with glx!

Hopefully the driver will get resolved with the next version.

To recap -- download the 09 series driver from Nvidia:
amd64 @ 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/100.14.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.09-pkg2.run
i386 @ http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html

Get your compiling enabled and install the kernel sources:
sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-source

Restart in your plain mode without X (recovery) and build the blob (failsafe X 
is a PITA):
sh ./NVIDIA<...>

And fix your xorg.conf as per your needs.  For example:
Section "Module" 
   Load "glx"
   Load "GLcore"
   Load "v4l"
EndSection

and change the driver to "nvidia" from whatever.

WFM and will be a decent crutch until NVidia pulls their greymatter
together from the nether regions.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[OlivierP]

For those (like me %-)) who experience hard lockups with the
100.14.11/14 drivers, here is a horrible hack to get 100.14.09 installed
AND to get l-r-m to "recognize" it, while keeping other restricted
modules you may require available. This has only been tested on an up-
to-date Gutsy

DO NOT report any bugs or whatsoever if this does not work, burns your
CPU or whatnot.

Install the binary drivers from source,
follow the instructions in the NvidiaManual howto here: 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
and on the NVidia support forum sticky post here: 
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490

This will get you with correctly installed drivers. However, when you
now enable compiz/Desktop Effects, l-r-m will find that the driver is
loaded but NOT enabled, and will happily reinstall the repository
drivers if you let it.

To work around this, proceed as follows:
- Edit 
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/RestrictedManager/handlers/xorg_driver.py

- insert a line here (lines 38-39):
[code]
def is_enabled(self):
"""Returns True if the module is enabled."""[/code]so that it reads:
[code]
def is_enabled(self):
"""Returns True if the module is enabled."""
return True
[/code]

- Save & close.

You can now enable Desktop Effects to your heart's content.

Important: the editing of /usr/lib/python2.5/site-
packages/RestrictedManager/handlers/xorg_driver.py will need to be
redone each time Restricted Manager is updated.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Baptiste]

I have exactly the same problem with a geforce 7300 GO.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[rick_in_kingston]

Just picked up the following from the Nvidia support site

nV News Forums > Linux Support Forums > NVIDIA Linux
RE: Demand on WORKING drivers

10-03-07, 12:59 PM #36
zander
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,781

Default Re: Demand on WORKING drivers
I'd like to follow up on Aaron's update, since not all posts in this thread 
refer to the same hardware. We identified a regression between 100.14.09 and 
100.14.11 specific to G72 based graphics cards (GeForce 7300 GS, etc.) on 
certain systems; this problem is being investigated. However, there are no 
known regressions between the two releases affecting G8x GPUs.
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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[rick_in_kingston]

Also having the same problem here. Nvidia 7300, on an ASUS M2NVP-VM, have a 
6150 onboard but disabled. AMD X2 4200+ with 2G DDR2 800 ram (4 X 512).  I am 
running Gutsy beta, video driver is 100.14.19 with Compiz-Fusion enable, 
experiencing about 1 or more an hour. None with affects disabled. I did not 
want to install 100.14, but wanted to install 9636, but system would not let 
me. I also tried turning off cpu scaling in bios.  (Cool and Quiet)
Tried everything  I could think of to remove 100.14 but again was thwarted by 
system. This is on a generic (i386) kernel. 
I have another Gutsy install on the same machine but with the 64 kernel. I was 
able to install 963X, it is having no lockup problems at all with Compiz 
running and I can run with cpu scaling.
I had the same problems on Friesty with the 9755 and the 100.11 drivers. And 
again with the 96XX drivers, no problems
I think it is a nvidia driver problem with the 6 and 7 series video GPUs and 
any of the 97XX and higher drivers.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Sitsofe Wheeler]

Troy:
Does disabling cpufreq (as mentioned on 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/109643/comments/9
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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

andrea 'shinji' delfino  wrote:
"same unstability"

Does this mean that you are experiencing lockups?

If this is the case, we might want to do some digging to see exactly
what chipset goes into the 7200 and 7300 lines to see if there is the
possibility that this is a related bug.

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[andrea 'shinji' delfino]

same unstability / flickering on my hp pavilion dv6159eu (nvidia go 7200) and 
nvidia-glx-new (ALL 100.x series drivers). 
Could be this drivers bug on "turbocache" memory access??

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[sam tygier]

sometimes the freeze is only temporary, i can ssh in (or stay ssh'ed
in). if i run top the xorg is at 100%. i get the Xid errors in my dmesg.
the computer appears to be frozen hard, the capslock key does not light
the caps light, ctrl-alt-del/backspace ignored.

after around 5 mins, it recovers from the freeze.

some times the freeze is harder. ssh session stops, machine won't reply
to pings. i have not seen this recover.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Sitsofe Wheeler]

is performing "lynches" should have been
isn't performing "lynches"
Lynching is not behaviour to be engaged in : )

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Sitsofe Wheeler]

Troy:
You're getting Xids which could make this very tough to track down. I really 
hope your system is performing "lynches" though, that could be rather deadly.

You might be able to use some of the information on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#troubleshooting
to help you...

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

Sam Tygier wrote:
"i have let memtest86 run for an hour. it completed two passes with no errors 
found."  I let it run on my machine for twelve hours.  Not a single error.

Have you tried the remote debugging technique where you ssh into the box
before the crash and watch the output?

All we can do to help the devs is do a full dmesg with an lspci -vv and
attach them.  Hopefully someone will notice.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[sam tygier]

i managed to ssh after a freeze

dmesg has.

[   92.954972] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[  107.488611] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[  278.449711] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 6, PE 0fb8 00ff f0a0 00ff 
00ff
[  565.402594] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 26, Ch 01ff M 1ffc D  intr 

[  565.414343] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 1, Ch 01ff M 1ffc D  intr 

[  565.414851] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 6, PE01ff 1ffc  fc78 00ff 
00ff
[  574.409243] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 16, Head  Count de59
[  582.404730] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 16, Head  Count de5a
[  590.400223] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 16, Head  Count de5b
[  598.395722] NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 8, Channel 001e

could it be possible that there are different types of crash, if only
sometimes sshing works?

ok, after a few minutes X died, and i was returned to a text terminal.

i had done
echo t | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger

i have attached the dmesg containing it


** Attachment added: "dmesg.log"
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[sam tygier]

i have let memtest86 run for an hour. it completed two passes with no
errors found.

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[sam tygier]

i have had a go at the DebuggingSystemCrash.

after the crash i am unable to ping or ssh to the machine (over wired
ethernet).

this happens with just metacity (i think it happens faster with compiz),
and a few gnome apps open (epiphany, liferea). the frequency of once or
twice an hour is about right.

the crash does not seem to occur when i am on a virtual terminal, so the
sysrq debugging will not work. (though can be used to reboot, as crtl-
alt-del does not work when frozen)

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[Bug 145112] Re: Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

[Troy James Sobotka]

** Summary changed:

- Random nvidia-glx-new Lynches / Lock-Ups
+ Random NVidia Proprietary Driver Lynches / Lock-Ups

** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: nvidia-glx-new
  
- Summary:  A newer unknown update now results in an unstable system with
- regards to random freezes.  Last several lockups have managed to allow
- for Alt-PrtScn reboots.  Earlier lynches did not.  Possibly an NVidia
- driver issue?  System never froze under Feisty.
+ Summary:  Utilizing the NVidia proprietary drivers results in a
+ completely unstable system.  Lockups / Lynches result in a system that
+ is completely unrecoverable using Alt-PrtScn - REISUB key combinations.
+ System fine under Feisty.
  
- Frequency:  Random.   Once to twice per hour.
+ *** UPDATE ***
+ Saturday, September 29 2007:  Appears tied to the 7300 class of GPUs.
+ Saturday, September 29 2007:  After testing with NV and Vesa, very clearly a 
result of the new Nvidia drivers.
+ 
+ Frequency:  Random.   Once to twice per hour in some instances.  Unable
+ to determine a fully reproducible set of events.
  
  Architecture:  amd64
  
  Version:  7.10

** Tags added: 7300 glx nvidia

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