[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2017-05-26 Thread Daniel van Vugt
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1351424 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1351424

** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 1358050
   Some icons assume familiarity with other OS
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1351424
   [icons] browser, settings and calculator icons too similar to another well 
known mobile O/S

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-13 Thread Olivier Tilloy
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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> There's plenty of other things (such as bookmarks synchronization
> between a computer and a mobile device) that I'd love to see before
> the focus is on a new icon.

Those tasks are not mutually exclusive: creating a new icon is purely a
design task that doesn’t need to involve developers. Input from everyone
is of course always welcome, but creating a new icon wouldn’t delay
other features and bug fixes in the app itself.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-12 Thread Mateo Salta
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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I think we could at least do some Ubuntu color spicing up on the current
one, the map background is nice. But the compass does really look way
too close to safari, possible to use ubuntu font shapes and arrows to
acheieve the same generic browser metaphor with a unique ubuntu feel.
color and style, as the current one looks exactly like a version
revision of safari, color and feel like even the shape of the compass
needles and their direction.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-11 Thread Gregory Opera
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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I agree, it would be *nice* to have something with an "Ubuntu feel" to
it... But it's hardly a priority.

There's plenty of other things (such as bookmarks synchronization
between a computer and a mobile device) that I'd love to see before the
focus is on a new icon.

Of course, the flip side of the argument is that a new icon is one of
the easier things to implement in the development of software - why not
have a competition (via OMG! Ubuntu! perhaps?) for a new icon?

You don't necessarily need to offer any sort of significant prize -
though that would of course, be an incentive - but there would
automatically be the honour of being the one whom created to iconic
Ubuntu Browser icon which is used going forwards...

I'm not the most artistic person, but I know I would give it a shot.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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here you go, one suru folded world map with a black cat silouette based
on a public domain and unencumbered image
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P_cat.svg

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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You can't just say that Safari has more market recognition so you will
use their trademark for your commercial product in the same product
class! That is exactly what trademarks are there to prevent and if the
intent is to cause confusing that is very problematic. You can certainly
use a globe or map, that is a common element going back to NCSA Mosaic
and is a hard thing to trademark anyway. I dunno about the north west
pointing compass, maybe a trademark lawyer would have an opinion on
that. I think I would just replace it with a photo of a cat, that
represents the modern internet pretty well.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Sam Hewitt
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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Like it or not, Safari and others have defined the generic browser icon
metaphor as the world/map + compass and Ubuntu doesn't have the clout in
the browser market (like apple, google or mozilla) to drop a branded
icon for its browser.

That being said I have modified the existing icon to be "less similar"
to Safari (which I think is the main problem people are having):
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/snwh/suru-
icons/master/Suru/512x512/apps/webbrowser-app.png I'm open to feedback
from the design team.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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if it isn't a priority then lets just slap any old image on it for now
and do a new design when it gets to the top of the list. I really don't
mind what I click on to launch the browser, I just don't want the
project exposed to treble damages from wilful infringement of a
trademark that isn't even a very good icon for a browser. *anything*
will do.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Matthieu James
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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The pictograms have been designed several years ago to support the 
communication around the Ubuntu brand. Their style is nice but too simple and 
restrictive to be used to designing a complete and consistent Desktop/Phone OS 
icon theme. The constraints are simply different. 
Regarding the browser icon, I agree that it presents a lot of similarities with 
the Safari icon but modifying its design is not a high priority for us at the 
moment. But you can be confident that we are always improving and expanding the 
Suru icon set (and especially core application icons).

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
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very much so, and that one is even older and more neglected!

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1358050
   Some icons assume familiarity with other OS

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Mark Curtis
Would https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
themes/+bug/1358050 be related to this bug?

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
why not use the already drawn pictogram for the internet
https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-internet-orange-
hex.svg why are all icons on the phone not meeting the pictogram style?

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Olivier Tilloy
I linked to the OMG Ubuntu article because I think that this bug
deserves some attention from design. I too would like to get them to
comment on the issue (even if it’s just to dismiss it).

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread radicsge
Im not a designer, but an idea could be to have a flying ship (caravel) above 
the clouds.
Ship is associated with bringing you somewhere and cloud with the net. Im not 
aware of similar icons anyhere. (flying ship was a strong unit in the master of 
magic).

Attached two quick scratches for demo.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread radicsge
sketches :)

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread Alan Bell
I must say I was somewhat surprised about the article, but not quite as
surprised as I am that this has been left for so long and even went
through a redesign without addressing the problem.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread Nathan Haines
Oliver, I'm not sure that an opinion column written about this bug is
relevant here.  We don't want to do what the "media" think is a good
option, we want to do what's best for the Ubuntu Browser project.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread Olivier Tilloy
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/ubuntu-browser-icon-too-similar-
safari

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
Probably worth mentioning that since filing this bug the icon for the
webbrowser-app has been changed, but not in a way that fixes the
concerns raised. Current icon attached now, still doesn't meet standards
for desktop icons and has an orange compass needle pointing north east.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
** Branch linked: lp:~alanbell/webbrowser-app/icon-1505970

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
** Summary changed:

- [Icons] Icon isn't very good
+ [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

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