[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. On behalf of the Ubuntu SRU team, please consider this request approved in principle. Specifically, our policy already allows for youtube-dl updates in stable releases as required in order to keep it working. See "Updates that need to be applied to Ubuntu packages to adjust to changes in the environment, server protocols, web services, and similar, i. e. where the current version just ceases to work." from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#High-impact_bugs. However, updating the package requires someone to actually volunteer the fix, and perform the necessary QA. Until that happens, you cannot expect the package to get updated. It's worth noting that a youtube-dl snap exists and appears up-to-date. Snaps work far better for this kind of case and were, in part, designed to fix exactly this kind of update problem. If you prefer not to use the snap then that's your choice. But I hope this explains why you're less likely to find volunteers to fix this issue the hard way when the problem is already not an issue the easy way. If you are able to volunteer, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates to understand what you need to do, and specifically the steps at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure. I'm also going to rename this bug. "Always backport newer versions" is an impossible bug to fix because the bug can never be marked resolved, and is thus not a helpful thing to track. I'm going to change it to a particular version so that the bug can actually have a specific goal. If/when the goalpost moves, the bug title can be updated if the previous goal is unlikely to be achieved. If the goal is achieved then we'll mark it Fix Released, and the next time an update is required, please use a new bug to track that. To start, I'm going to take the statement from @asciiwolf "The latest manually installed youtube-dl package from hirsute works fine" and assume that 2021.04.07-0ubuntu1 and above still works, but 2020.03.24-1 and lower does not work. So this bug, for now, can track a backport of 2021.04.07 or higher to Focal and Bionic, and can be marked Fix Released for Hirsute and the current Ubuntu development release. Reminder: this bug will not get fixed until somebody volunteers to do the work. The workaround is to use the youtube-dl snap which appears up- to-date. ** Description changed: + [Triage Notes] + + This request is approved but is waiting for a volunteer to work on it. + + I'm also going to rename this bug. "Always backport newer versions" is + an impossible bug to fix because the bug can never be marked resolved, + and is thus not a helpful thing to track. I'm going to change it to a + particular version so that the bug can actually have a specific goal. + If/when the goalpost moves, the bug title can be updated if the previous + goal is unlikely to be achieved. If the goal is achieved then we'll mark + it Fix Released, and the next time an update is required, please use a + new bug to track that. + + To start, I'm going to take the statement from @asciiwolf "The latest + manually installed youtube-dl package from hirsute works fine" and + assume that 2021.04.07-0ubuntu1 and above still works, but 2020.03.24-1 + and lower does not work. So this bug, for now, can track a backport of + 2021.04.07 or higher to Focal and Bionic, and can be marked Fix Released + for Hirsute and the current Ubuntu development release. + + [Original Description] + This package always breaks and should always be backported from the development release to the current LTS releases because the target web services are always evolving. The rationale for the SRU: 1) The package is a small command-line program 2) Regressions don't make sense since the package becomes useless anyway 3) Packaging burden is small since the package starts from Debian unstable then Ubuntu development release ** Also affects: youtube-dl (Ubuntu Focal) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: youtube-dl (Ubuntu Bionic) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: youtube-dl (Ubuntu Hirsute) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: youtube-dl (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released ** Changed in: youtube-dl (Ubuntu Hirsute) Status: New => Fix Released ** Summary changed: - [SRU] Always backport newer versions + [SRU] Update to 2021.04.07 or higher -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Update to 2021.04.07 or higher To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
Please fix this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Tags removed: artful disco yakkety zesty ** Tags added: groovy -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
The latest manually installed youtube-dl package from hirsute works fine. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
Youtube-dl is outdated and does not work in focal as well. ** Tags added: focal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Tags removed: upgrade-software-version ** Tags added: upgrade-bionic-version -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Description changed: - This package has been broken in Trusty since two years now. This package - should always be backported from the development release (now Xenial) - because the target web services are always evolving. + This package always breaks and should always be backported from the + development release to the current LTS releases because the target web + services are always evolving. The rationale for the SRU: 1) The package is a small command-line program 2) Regressions don't make sense since the package becomes useless anyway 3) Packaging burden is small since the package starts from Debian unstable then Ubuntu development release -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
I am unable to download videos with the 2019.1.17 version packaged for Ubuntu 19.04. The current version is 2019.8.13. It would be better to not have this package in the repositories, considering that youtube-dl comes with its own updating mechanism. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Tags added: disco -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Tags added: bionic -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
Just for the record, I have uploaded a new version of youtube-dl to Debian unstable. It would be super nice if people pulled it from there (or from testing, if the recent phantomjs recommends can't be satisfied/is not desired). Actually, it would be super nice to have it updated to avoid people pestering upstream. Rogério Brito. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions
** Summary changed: - [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates + [SRU] Always backport newer versions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
Hello an youtube-dl current maintainer here. I'd like to write something as a vote for this issue. There were several times, that a new version with important fixes (fix for YouTube downloading, etc.) was released, and lots of people came to our issue tracker for "broken" YouTube downloading because the Ubuntu version was not updated yet. As a result, I hope Ubuntu can keep it updated. Of course users can also install from PPAs or maintain youtube-dl version themselves. I just feel the official package integrates with the system better, and IMO users are likely to try official packages first. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
Any news? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
This is still a problem, by the way. I may have made a duplicate of this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1704368 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
** Tags added: artful zesty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
I think someone should write this up in a post to ubuntu- de...@lists.ubuntu.com, and also offer to do the work. I'm not on the SRU team but I don't see on the face of it why this would be rejected in principle, assuming that compatibility is always maintained (for example commandline switches are never removed). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
** Tags added: yakkety -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
The current version in Xenial is also broken. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
@ travisgevans Guessing this option is pretty well described in the programs documentation: Either youtube-dl -help or man youtube-dl ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
My experience agrees. I've found it imperative to upgrade the script on a regular basis to ensure it keeps working. YouTube messes with stuff all the time, and it's rarely long before an outdated version breaks. I had to abandon using the official package and just maintain my own local copy (fortunately, ‘youtube-dl -U’ makes this pretty quick and painless). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
It's getting frequently updated on getdeb.net: http://www.getdeb.net/app/youtube-dl Just to mention this. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
** Changed in: youtube-dl (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided => High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
** Tags added: xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
Please remove youtube-dl package from Ubuntu, if you're not going to maintain it and point people directly to the GithHub page. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1529647] Re: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: youtube-dl (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1529647 Title: [SRU] Always backport newer versions to trusty-updates To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1529647/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
