[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
That's not a regression of the SRU, the gutsy version should have the same NEWS since the update has no change to the debian directory out of the new version -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
Ok, I understand that, but then NEWS.Debian.gz should be deleted from the gutsy-updates package, as it contains misleading information. -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
That is fixed in hardy now. We will not change the printing system to something different and not tested in the context in stable though, stable users expect quality and not random changes which can bring new bug ** Changed in: gimp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist Status: New => Fix Released -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
Today, gutsy-updates/main contains the following update to gimp: gimp (2.4.0~rc2-3) unstable; urgency=low * The gimp package now includes its own Print plug-in, and should automatically remove the old gimp-print package that was provided by Gutenprint. If you still want to use the extended Gutenprint Print plug-in, please install the gimp-gutenprint package. -- Ari Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:25:34 -0400 Unfortunately, the plug-in is simply not installed, /usr/lib/gimp/2.0 /plug-ins/print should be included in the gimp binary package. -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
I would recommend users to not do that or they might have issues on upgrade and having their custom copy taking over the ubuntu version when it'll be available -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
Sebastien, that's all fine, this was just a proposal as I found the new dialog an improvement in the unified desktop printing experience. But well, it's not difficult to take the plugin from a corresponding Debian package (/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print) and put it in that place on an Ubuntu installation (or to ~/.gimp-2.4/plug-ins). -- Philipp Sadleder http://sadleder.de -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
You seem to imply that the current print dialog doesn't work, reading the gimp bugs doesn't indicate that's true. We will consider the new dialog but that's not a security issue nor a frequent user demand so it might take some time though. About new versions there is the backport project working on making those available to stable users. Note that you can't ask for the crack of the day versions and expect stability, if you want the current code you can run the unstable version of the distribution -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
* Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-25 18:23]: > the issue is not to build the new dialog it's to push untested code to > stable users, that will have to wait for hardy most likely That's why I proposed to have the option to use it available. With a separate binary package, people have the option to use it if they want it. Otherwise they have to use third party repositories. Another option would be to build a package for universe. For me, gimp-gutenprint didn't work ever, so I'm very happy to have a working gtk+ print plugin on my Debian machine. But some Ubuntu users I know are eager to have a working print plugin. -- Philipp Sadleder http://sadleder.de -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
Could it then be at least in backports for those of us who'd like a more
functional GIMP and don't want to wait for Hardy?
I could compile it myself, sure, but it'd be nice for it to integrate
nicely into the package manager. And Linux is hardly attractive to the
Windows crowd if they have to compile from source or {update,wait for
the next version of} their distro just to get a feature that's supposed
to be _in the current release_ much less a new version.
I don't understand why most users should have to wait that long. It
shouldn't take much to test the code. There's very little of it, and a
lot is the same as every other app that uses the GtkPrint API. I'd be
several security upgrades that do get pushed have a larger quantity of
"untested" code. Like Firefox revisions.
And this doesn't even replace any code that may have worked before.
Gutenprint seems to be happy to co-exist with the new plugin, so people
can always just use the old plugin.
What does it take to test the print plugin and have it be deemed worthy
of getting into Gutsy? I'd be happy to help test it if no one else will.
( Perhaps it's worth slightly rethinking the upgrade policy? Several people
I've suggested Linux to complain that Ubuntu makes it difficult to get new
versions of some program they like to use. In comparison, in Windows one can
just go and install the new version. Whereas I couldn't play with the GIMP 2.4
rc's because the package in Feisty was a bugfix and maintenance version behind.
Would it be sensible/feasible to have something sort of in between the current
stable and grabbing the alphas and betas of the next release? A
repository/release-schedule for those who aren't on systems that must be up
150% of the time and can handle code that's only been tested for a few weeks as
opposed to 6 months if it means we can get reasonably up-to-date packages and
have our packages supported with the upstream bugfixes. )
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[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
the issue is not to build the new dialog it's to push untested code to stable users, that will have to wait for hardy most likely -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
* Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-25 12:29]: > The new rc3 version and the dialog change was just before gutsy and we > didn't want to switch to a non tested option, we might upload 2.4.0 in > gutsy-updates but will not likely change the print system there Well, I think it wouldn't be a problem to install both in parallel. gimp-print (gutenprint) installs the plug-in to /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/gutenprint (even though it adds a diversion form [..]/plug-ins/print to [..]/print.orig which seems to be superfluous [1]), so both plug-ins should be available and usable in parallel. If this is not an option for gutsy due to other problems, then it could be solved with a separate binary package just for the gtk+ print plug-in, e.g. gimp-gtkprint. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp-print/+bug/157076 -- Philipp Sadleder http://sadleder.de -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
The new rc3 version and the dialog change was just before gutsy and we didn't want to switch to a non tested option, we might upload 2.4.0 in gutsy-updates but will not likely change the print system there -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
The Gutenprint is also useless for current photo printers.You cannot change DPI value and paper type with old dialog so you need to globally change printer properties. -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 156765] Re: GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled
I can confirm that bug. The GTK+ print support is explicitly disabled in debian/rules [1]: [...] DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := \ --enable-python --enable-default-binary --without-print [...] Enabling print support would be a great improvement of the user experience in using GIMP in Ubuntu. Best regards, Philipp [1] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gimp/gimp_2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7.diff.gz -- GIMP 2.4's new print dialog is disabled https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
