[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Anders Hall]

FYI: got a better experience in gnome when opening a terminal and
running syndaemon -d in gnome. However, that seem to freeze the mouse
slightly too long after I have stopped typing. The unity version works
better (not sure what differs yet).

https://askubuntu.com/questions/505007/ubuntu-gnome-14-04-disable-
touchpad-while-typing-not-working

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Anders Hall]

Related and probably duplicate of:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-
daemon/+bug/1351772

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Anders Hall]

Hi, the synaptics (libinput also installed) package work well for me in
16.04 (and previous version to 12.04 at least) up to 17.04 on thinkpads
(x2XX to carbon X1). Currently using carbon x1 5th gen. There is however
some form of instability with settings that affects many users including
me.

Sometimes the disable while typing feature stops working and reinstall
of libinput and synaptics drivers help. I.e, reinstall xserver-xorg-
input-synaptics and -libinput as well as running:

gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Touchpad_not_working_after_login

However, what perplexes me is that the gnome desktop (gnome default) does not 
work with synaptics disable while typing when it clearly works in unity at the 
same time. I'm testing gnome before 18.04 and login in/out between both 
desktops, with the exact same settings (gconf, drivers etc).
 
Currently I'm writing this in gnome and the cursor skips with random artefacts 
that make the keyboard defunct. In unity it works perfectly (two finger scroll, 
trackpoint etc works).

Related:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1687191

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[aminorex]

If you search the web on this topic you will find that hundreds of
people have been perplexed by this behaviour for over a decade, patches
have been supplied upstream, and yet the problem persists:  There is no
control evident which allows one to select the widely desired behaviour,
i.e. to prevent unwanted pointer inputs while typing.  A more aggressive
approach to resolving such a wide spread and severe usability issue
seems warranted, and the question suggests itself:  If not here, then
where?

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Doug McMahon]

Hmm, sorry about this (I think
A number of users were complaining about this but it turns out it was more 
about cursor movement than clicks 
(or so combo of the cursor moving then a click on new position after timeout.
In any event it was never intended to prevent cursor movement while typing

So marking all invalid.

** Changed in: unity-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome/xenial
   Status: New => Invalid

** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome
   Status: Triaged => Invalid

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Tim]

I didnt see that you are using Unity. u-s-d also launches syndaemon with
the "-t" option, which means motion won't be disabled,  just clicking
and scrolling. Perhaps the "Synaptics Off" patch would help, atleast on
supported hardware.

I am not sure that Unity7 has been ported to use libinput, I suspect not
and clearly that would not be an option for LTS.

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Invalid

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Tim]

However at least on my laptop it is still falling back to using
syndaemon. That is launched with "-t" option and has been since 2012.

commit c1b2b478ec71b907e4af736d62c1a81ad400f902
Author: Bastien Nocera 
Date:   Mon Jun 18 11:51:09 2012 +0100

mouse: Only inhibits mouse clicks and scrolls with syndaemon

Not mouse movements.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673055


** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #673055
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673055

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Tim]

Possibly related to this commit.

commit b23917f0a279aba4599cdc7a5b34055f3d8975ba
Author: Ondrej Holy 
Date:   Wed Apr 8 12:39:48 2015 +0200

mouse: Do not disable touchpad buttons

Touchpad buttons are disabled also if touchpad is disabled using
"Device Enabled" property. Unfortunately some touchpads share those
buttons with trackpoint, which is consequently unusable. Disable
touchpad using "Synaptics Off" property instead to avoid disabling
the buttons.

Remove also some redundant calls to enable/disable touchpad and
make sure syndaemon isn't running if the touchpads are disabled.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747504


** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #747504
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747504

** Package changed: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) => gnome-settings-
daemon (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Tim]

The setting in gnome-control-center was removed since the setting was
changed to be default to always active. Its certainly working on my
laptop however I had xserver-xorg-input-libinput installed (but no
changes to config files).

3.20 removed evdev/synaptics support completely in favour of libinput,
however I thought 3.18 has support for both. Switching the input backend
post-release seems like a pretty invasive change, unless everything is
completely broken?

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[Bug 1576685] Re: Disable touchpad while typing is not active nor can it be enabled

[Tim]

** Also affects: ubuntu-gnome
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntu-gnome/xenial
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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