[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2021-01-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: sssd (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-12-04 Thread Treviño
Also adding SSSD here, would be easy enough to make its default PAM CA
ring to point to /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt by default (and
change-able in settings) but not sure if we want to go this route as it
may make SSSD documentation confusing (as it everywhere mentions
/etc/sssd/pki/sssd_auth_ca_db.pem or /etc/sssd/pki/sssd_auth_ca_db.pem).

Maybe a nice way would be to provide a default sssd.conf file that
explicitly set that instead of hard-coding it, so we won't break current
installations.

** Also affects: sssd (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
Unfortunately, the ! character at the beginning the the line in ca-
certificates.conf is just for blacklisting ca certificates from being
imported into the system store, it's not really a backlist that can be
used by a crypto library.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
So for the avoidance of doubt, every independent distro has its own
custom ca-certificates package with no shared history. I know Debian,
Fedora, and openSUSE all have their own completely separate upstreams.
Looking at what Fedora does is probably a good idea indeed, just keep in
mind it has no shared history with Debian's package. I took a quick look
at openSUSE's package and it looks like it has good p11-kit integration
as well. Arch uses Fedora; not sure about other independent distros.
They all use Mozilla's certificates, but Mozilla doesn't release a
package in a way that's directly usable by distros.

Debian's ca-certificates implements certificate blacklisting by putting
a ! character at the start of a line in /etc/ca-certificates.conf (which
doesn't exist on other distros). Once a certificate is removed, it stays
removed, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743339
which was never fixed.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-24 Thread Marc Deslauriers
Looks like Fedora substantially modified the scripts used by ca-
certificates to extract untrusted and blacklisted certs. We should
probably start by investigating how their package is handling this, what
files they are generating, and if they are being properly handled by p11
-kit-trust.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-24 Thread Timo Aaltonen
so what does it require to fix ca-certificates?

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Re: [Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-19 Thread dwmw2
On Thu, 2020-03-19 at 09:44 +, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
> It looks like symlinking firefox and thunderbird's own copies of
> libnssckbi.so to the system-wide p11-kit-trust.so is the proper way to
> fix this bug, as far as Mozilla's products are concerned.
> 
> Before I proceed to doing this, I'd welcome comments from the security
> team on this approach though, as I suspect I don't understand all the
> implications.
> 
> (an alternative would be building firefox/thunderbird against the
> system-wide nss, but firefox currently requires 3.50, which isn't yet in
> focal, and I suspect that requirement is being bumped often, so that
> wouldn't really work with our distribution model)

Right, don't bother trying to replace NSS just for this (although
really, having a single version of NSS on the system *would* be nice).

The interface to libnssckbi.so is a standard PKCS#11 library, and it's
perfectly reasonable to replace that in each of
firefox/thunderbird/chromium individually.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-19 Thread Marc Deslauriers
Before we switch any software to using p11-kit-trust.so, we need to fix
our ca-certificates package to properly handle untrusted or blacklisted
certificates. At the moment, I believe they are simply skipped when
generating the contents of /usr/share/ca-certificates.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-19 Thread Olivier Tilloy
It looks like symlinking firefox and thunderbird's own copies of
libnssckbi.so to the system-wide p11-kit-trust.so is the proper way to
fix this bug, as far as Mozilla's products are concerned.

Before I proceed to doing this, I'd welcome comments from the security
team on this approach though, as I suspect I don't understand all the
implications.

(an alternative would be building firefox/thunderbird against the
system-wide nss, but firefox currently requires 3.50, which isn't yet in
focal, and I suspect that requirement is being bumped often, so that
wouldn't really work with our distribution model)

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon)

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-19 Thread Timo Aaltonen
according to #4 nss should still symlink libnssckbi.so to p11-kit-
trust.so

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-18 Thread Timo Aaltonen
p11-kit too

** Changed in: p11-kit (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-03-18 Thread Timo Aaltonen
nss should have everything on focal

** Also affects: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2020-01-04 Thread Harout S. Hedeshian
Like others, I'm manually symlinking .so files on all of my interactive
hosts and hoping updates don't break it. IMO this is not a valid
workaround.

@ahasenack - I understand this is a roadmap item that would ideally
resolve for multiple packages, but it seems that the Mozilla products
are the worst offenders at the moment. I don't see anyone requesting
anything else in this bug. Would it be possible to at least resolve it
for Firefox and Thunderbird? What would it take to get this looked at
for the next LTS?

For now, Thunderbird needs this too (and works for me on 18.0.3 LTS):

sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so /usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so.bak
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so 
/usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so
sudo mv /usr/lib/thunderbird/libnssckbi.so 
/usr/lib/thunderbird/libnssckbi.so.bak
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so 
/usr/lib/thunderbird/libnssckbi.so

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-29 Thread Kevin
@dwmw2,

I figured out the issue. Long story short, freeipa (which is our CA),
when we enroll a PC into the realm, it adds the freeIPA cert to
/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt like it should, however it also adds
other information that it shouldn't.

This results in p11-kit-trust.so blowing parsing errors.

You can read the entire bug report here if you want.

https://pagure.io/freeipa/issue/8106

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-29 Thread dwmw2
@kvasko yes, it works here. Are you sure that's the version of
libnssckbi.so that is being used? There are lots; I've replaced them
all...

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-29 Thread Timo Aaltonen
should this be marked as something to fix in focal for the next LTS?

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-21 Thread Kevin
@dwmw2

Were you able to make this work by doing this for firefox?

sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so /usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so.bak
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so 
/usr/lib/firefox/libnssckbi.so

https://askubuntu.com/questions/244582/add-certificate-authorities-
system-wide-on-firefox/1036637#1036637

I wasn't able to get it to work. Doing the above doesn't work at all for
me. I'm on 18.04.3

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-08 Thread Andreas Hasenack
This isn't "just" a bug, it's a roadmap item in my view, as many
products are affected. It needs a spec, like in the fedora case. I agree
that it would be awesome to have this.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-10-08 Thread Andreas Hasenack
This isn't "just" a bug, it's a roadmap item in my view, as many
products are affected. It needs a spec, like in the fedora case. I agree
that it would be awesome to have this.

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2019-04-10 Thread Orion-cora
I'm trying to make use of this in Ubuntu 14.04 with p11-kit
0.23.2-5~ubuntu16.04.1, but get the following error:

# trust list
p11-kit: ca-certificates.crt: BEGIN ...: pem block before p11-kit section header
p11-kit: ca-certificates.crt: BEGIN ...: pem block before p11-kit section header

Is p11-kit just too old there?

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2018-10-29 Thread  Christian Ehrhardt 
No progress on this yet, afaik it is just not high up on anyone's
personal task list :-/

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2018-04-28 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Wow, unified CA management would be awesome. No more fiddling around
with (and forgetting to correctly install/remove certificates in)
various applications (most notably in Firefox, Chromium, wget).

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2018-04-25 Thread dwmw2
Any progress on fixing this?

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-08-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-08-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: ca-certificates (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-08-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: p11-kit (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-08-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-07-26 Thread dwmw2
cf. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741005
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704180
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/p11-glue/2013-June/000331.html

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-07-24 Thread dwmw2
I believe NSS wants these patches backported from 3.30:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1334976

Firefox has its own copy of NSS which I think as of Firefox 54 should be fine.
Thunderbird also needs fixing, I think.

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** Also affects: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2017-07-24 Thread dwmw2
I believe we need to update p11-kit to v0.23.4 to make the key pinning
work correctly in the recommended configuration, by adding the
CKA_NSS_MOZILLA_CA_POLICY attribute.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99453
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1324096

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** Also affects: p11-kit (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2016-12-15 Thread Robie Basak
** Changed in: ca-certificates (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => New

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => New

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2016-12-12 Thread dwmw2
The Mozilla bugs you link are a bit of a red herring. They refer to an
abortive attempt by Mozilla/NSS to have a 'shared system database' in
sql:/etc/pki/nssdb. The idea is that applications specify that as their
NSS database and although it's obviously read-only, it automatically
adds the user's database from ~/.pki/nssdb as a writeable token. This
gets a step towards consistency for all NSS-using applications — but as
those bugs note, not even Mozilla's own products are actually using it.
You should support that anyway, but it isn't the focus of this bug.

The fix here (which has been working in Fedora for years, since you ask
for existing approaches) is to replace NSS's built-in trust root module
libnssckbi.so with a symlink to p11-kit-trust.so. Then you get the
system's configured trust roots, instead of whatever's hard-coded into
that particular instance of libnssckbi.so (and you're shipping multiple
potentially different ones of those!)

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2016-12-12 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Hi dwmw2,
thank you for your bug report and your help to make Ubuntu better.

I beg a pardon as I'm clearly not an expert on this particular area, but
I try to sort out the details of this bug report to understand what has
to be done.

Currently I understand this as feature request to make update-ca-
certificates (almost?) all certificate users in one shot.

The current default config doesn't do that

Thanks for pointing out the links and background to this.

The answer on this thread is what I think the current state is 
http://superuser.com/questions/437330/how-do-you-add-a-certificate-authority-ca-to-ubuntu
and I understand and agree that to get this as "one shot accept this CA" is a 
valid feature-request-bug.

I happened to find various similar/related on other projects like firefox for 
example:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620373
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449498
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454036
There might be more for others, but it seems to fix the whole thing a 
Distribution would need to modify all consuming packages to agree on sort of a 
shared path and mechanism.

Ok, so far I was just trying to wrap my head around this a bit, I guess the 
next step clearly is the security Teams position on this in general - so I 
subscribe them for a statement.
Maybe they also know on past or existing approaches to this.

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #620373
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620373

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #449498
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449498

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #454036
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454036

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2016-12-12 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
@Security Team - do you happen to know about this overall topic and
could you share either whatever was the outcome of such discussions in
the past or OTOH what you assert on this as a feature request would be?

** Changed in: ca-certificates (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: ca-certificates (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: nss (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

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[Bug 1647285] Re: SSL trust not system-wide

2016-12-08 Thread dwmw2
It does seem that p11-kit-trust.so is working correctly. If I just make
a symlink from libnssckbi.so to it, corporate trust installed by update-
ca-certificates *does* work in Firefox.

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