[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2009-05-25 Thread Micah Gersten
Moved to thunderbird package for TB2+ support. Upstream has confirmed,
so I marked it as Triaged awaiting upstream change.

** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) => thunderbird (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Triaged

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => mozilla-thunderbird

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Stephan
See also:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders#How_to_compact_folders

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
I've added a link to the upstream bug watch for you.  I did this by
clicking on the "Also affects project" link, choosing Thunderbird in the
text box, and then adding the url for the upstream bug watch.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
hmm where is the "upstream bug" button?

anyway here is the link to the mozilla bugreport:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
Are you sure that new profiles are not getting cleaned up automatically?

- Alexander

=

preconditions:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Kubuntu
Description:Kubuntu 7.10
Release:7.10
Codename:   gutsy

$ LANG=C apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0


enigmail:
  Installed: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4 0


$ alias dum
alias dum='du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n'

* using german localisation

* using POP3 with own folders for each account
  (non global incomming)

* keep copies of mails on server

* each time when opend TB, searched for new mail and clicked on the available
folders

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


$ cd ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/pg1dsk50.default/

newly created profile:
$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3496.


test e-mail with atachment  to self:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
17368   .


thunderbird restarted


mails in thunderbird deleted and closed:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .


thunderbird restarted - mails not visible in thunderbird:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .

repeated last step, to be sure - same size


edit > config > additional > network & disc space > click "compress folder if
it saves more than 100 KB"
(translated from german)
retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared), closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .


started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared),
closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .

$ grep purge prefs.js
user_pref("mail.prompt_purge_threshhold", true);



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file > compact all folders, closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3268.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
thanks a lot Brian ;)

Stephan: that's exactly what i am doing.
 thanks for that link notwithstanding.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
a quote from the Link Stephan provided:

<-
The difference is that most other email clients by default automatically
compact the folder when a certain amount of space is wasted, whereas this has
to be activated by the user in Thunderbird.
->

so that's what this bug is about

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six

** Attachment added: "i repeated all steps i described above with Debian sid 
and icedove, the numbers are slightly different, but the effect is the same"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10752631/icedove-testlog.txt

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Thilo Six
i was pointed to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205756
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286888

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
When I found this 'feature' I asked for comments on Mozilla's forums and
received this encouraging discourse:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=601991 which ultimately
led to Thunderbird being the first open source program I strongly
discourage my clients from using.

Don't expect much support upstream on this.  They believe that any
rational person would understand that "empty trash" means "remove the
e-mail from view but keep on the hard drive" and "compact" means "delete
forever."

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
When I found this 'feature' I asked for comments on Mozilla's forums and
received this encouraging discourse:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=601991 which ultimately
led to Thunderbird being the first open source program I strongly
discourage my clients from using.

Don't expect much support upstream on this.  They believe that any
rational person would understand that "empty trash" means "remove the
e-mail from view but keep on the hard drive" and "compact" means "delete
forever."

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => mozilla-thunderbird

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Stephan
See also:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders#How_to_compact_folders

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
I've added a link to the upstream bug watch for you.  I did this by
clicking on the "Also affects project" link, choosing Thunderbird in the
text box, and then adding the url for the upstream bug watch.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
hmm where is the "upstream bug" button?

anyway here is the link to the mozilla bugreport:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
Are you sure that new profiles are not getting cleaned up automatically?

- Alexander

=

preconditions:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Kubuntu
Description:Kubuntu 7.10
Release:7.10
Codename:   gutsy

$ LANG=C apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0


enigmail:
  Installed: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4 0


$ alias dum
alias dum='du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n'

* using german localisation

* using POP3 with own folders for each account
  (non global incomming)

* keep copies of mails on server

* each time when opend TB, searched for new mail and clicked on the available
folders

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


$ cd ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/pg1dsk50.default/

newly created profile:
$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3496.


test e-mail with atachment  to self:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
17368   .


thunderbird restarted


mails in thunderbird deleted and closed:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .


thunderbird restarted - mails not visible in thunderbird:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .

repeated last step, to be sure - same size


edit > config > additional > network & disc space > click "compress folder if
it saves more than 100 KB"
(translated from german)
retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared), closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .


started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared),
closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .

$ grep purge prefs.js
user_pref("mail.prompt_purge_threshhold", true);



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file > compact all folders, closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3268.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
thanks a lot Brian ;)

Stephan: that's exactly what i am doing.
 thanks for that link notwithstanding.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
a quote from the Link Stephan provided:

<-
The difference is that most other email clients by default automatically
compact the folder when a certain amount of space is wasted, whereas this has
to be activated by the user in Thunderbird.
->

so that's what this bug is about

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six

** Attachment added: "i repeated all steps i described above with Debian sid 
and icedove, the numbers are slightly different, but the effect is the same"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10752631/icedove-testlog.txt

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2007-12-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Thilo Six
i was pointed to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205756
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286888

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2009-05-25 Thread Micah Gersten
Moved to thunderbird package for TB2+ support. Upstream has confirmed,
so I marked it as Triaged awaiting upstream change.

** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) => thunderbird (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Triaged

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
When I found this 'feature' I asked for comments on Mozilla's forums and
received this encouraging discourse:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=601991 which ultimately
led to Thunderbird being the first open source program I strongly
discourage my clients from using.

Don't expect much support upstream on this.  They believe that any
rational person would understand that "empty trash" means "remove the
e-mail from view but keep on the hard drive" and "compact" means "delete
forever."

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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2008-09-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Stephan
See also:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders#How_to_compact_folders

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
I've added a link to the upstream bug watch for you.  I did this by
clicking on the "Also affects project" link, choosing Thunderbird in the
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
hmm where is the "upstream bug" button?

anyway here is the link to the mozilla bugreport:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
Are you sure that new profiles are not getting cleaned up automatically?

- Alexander

=

preconditions:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Kubuntu
Description:Kubuntu 7.10
Release:7.10
Codename:   gutsy

$ LANG=C apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0


enigmail:
  Installed: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4 0


$ alias dum
alias dum='du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n'

* using german localisation

* using POP3 with own folders for each account
  (non global incomming)

* keep copies of mails on server

* each time when opend TB, searched for new mail and clicked on the available
folders

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


$ cd ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/pg1dsk50.default/

newly created profile:
$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3496.


test e-mail with atachment  to self:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
17368   .


thunderbird restarted


mails in thunderbird deleted and closed:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .


thunderbird restarted - mails not visible in thunderbird:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .

repeated last step, to be sure - same size


edit > config > additional > network & disc space > click "compress folder if
it saves more than 100 KB"
(translated from german)
retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared), closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .


started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared),
closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .

$ grep purge prefs.js
user_pref("mail.prompt_purge_threshhold", true);



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file > compact all folders, closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3268.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
thanks a lot Brian ;)

Stephan: that's exactly what i am doing.
 thanks for that link notwithstanding.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
a quote from the Link Stephan provided:

<-
The difference is that most other email clients by default automatically
compact the folder when a certain amount of space is wasted, whereas this has
to be activated by the user in Thunderbird.
->

so that's what this bug is about

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six

** Attachment added: "i repeated all steps i described above with Debian sid 
and icedove, the numbers are slightly different, but the effect is the same"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10752631/icedove-testlog.txt

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Thilo Six
i was pointed to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205756
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286888

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2008-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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2008-09-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
When I found this 'feature' I asked for comments on Mozilla's forums and
received this encouraging discourse:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=601991 which ultimately
led to Thunderbird being the first open source program I strongly
discourage my clients from using.

Don't expect much support upstream on this.  They believe that any
rational person would understand that "empty trash" means "remove the
e-mail from view but keep on the hard drive" and "compact" means "delete
forever."

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

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 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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** Changed in: thunderbird
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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2008-09-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => mozilla-thunderbird

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Stephan
See also:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders#How_to_compact_folders

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
I've added a link to the upstream bug watch for you.  I did this by
clicking on the "Also affects project" link, choosing Thunderbird in the
text box, and then adding the url for the upstream bug watch.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
hmm where is the "upstream bug" button?

anyway here is the link to the mozilla bugreport:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
Are you sure that new profiles are not getting cleaned up automatically?

- Alexander

=

preconditions:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Kubuntu
Description:Kubuntu 7.10
Release:7.10
Codename:   gutsy

$ LANG=C apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0


enigmail:
  Installed: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4 0


$ alias dum
alias dum='du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n'

* using german localisation

* using POP3 with own folders for each account
  (non global incomming)

* keep copies of mails on server

* each time when opend TB, searched for new mail and clicked on the available
folders

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


$ cd ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/pg1dsk50.default/

newly created profile:
$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3496.


test e-mail with atachment  to self:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
17368   .


thunderbird restarted


mails in thunderbird deleted and closed:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .


thunderbird restarted - mails not visible in thunderbird:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .

repeated last step, to be sure - same size


edit > config > additional > network & disc space > click "compress folder if
it saves more than 100 KB"
(translated from german)
retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared), closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .


started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared),
closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .

$ grep purge prefs.js
user_pref("mail.prompt_purge_threshhold", true);



--
started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders ( no dialog appeared)

file > compact all folders, closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3268.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
thanks a lot Brian ;)

Stephan: that's exactly what i am doing.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
a quote from the Link Stephan provided:

<-
The difference is that most other email clients by default automatically
compact the folder when a certain amount of space is wasted, whereas this has
to be activated by the user in Thunderbird.
->

so that's what this bug is about

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six

** Attachment added: "i repeated all steps i described above with Debian sid 
and icedove, the numbers are slightly different, but the effect is the same"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10752631/icedove-testlog.txt

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2007-12-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Thilo Six
i was pointed to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205756
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286888

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => mozilla-thunderbird

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Stephan
See also:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders#How_to_compact_folders

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
I've added a link to the upstream bug watch for you.  I did this by
clicking on the "Also affects project" link, choosing Thunderbird in the
text box, and then adding the url for the upstream bug watch.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
hmm where is the "upstream bug" button?

anyway here is the link to the mozilla bugreport:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
Are you sure that new profiles are not getting cleaned up automatically?

- Alexander

=

preconditions:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Kubuntu
Description:Kubuntu 7.10
Release:7.10
Codename:   gutsy

$ LANG=C apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
  Version table:
 *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0


enigmail:
  Installed: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2:0.95.0-0ubuntu4 0


$ alias dum
alias dum='du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n'

* using german localisation

* using POP3 with own folders for each account
  (non global incomming)

* keep copies of mails on server

* each time when opend TB, searched for new mail and clicked on the available
folders

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


$ cd ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/pg1dsk50.default/

newly created profile:
$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3496.


test e-mail with atachment  to self:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
17368   .


thunderbird restarted


mails in thunderbird deleted and closed:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .


thunderbird restarted - mails not visible in thunderbird:

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18736   .

repeated last step, to be sure - same size


edit > config > additional > network & disc space > click "compress folder if
it saves more than 100 KB"
(translated from german)
retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared), closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .


started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders (no dialog appeared),
closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
15576   ./Mail
18768   .

$ grep purge prefs.js
user_pref("mail.prompt_purge_threshhold", true);



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started TB - retrived mails, clicked on all folders ( no dialog appeared)

file > compact all folders, closed TB

$ dum
4   ./extensions
12  ./US
76  ./Mail
3268.
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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
thanks a lot Brian ;)

Stephan: that's exactly what i am doing.
 thanks for that link notwithstanding.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six
a quote from the Link Stephan provided:

<-
The difference is that most other email clients by default automatically
compact the folder when a certain amount of space is wasted, whereas this has
to be activated by the user in Thunderbird.
->

so that's what this bug is about

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406848
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-05 Thread Thilo Six

** Attachment added: "i repeated all steps i described above with Debian sid 
and icedove, the numbers are slightly different, but the effect is the same"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10752631/icedove-testlog.txt

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2007-12-06 Thread Thilo Six
i was pointed to:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205756
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286888

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2009-05-25 Thread Micah Gersten
Moved to thunderbird package for TB2+ support. Upstream has confirmed,
so I marked it as Triaged awaiting upstream change.

** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) => thunderbird (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Triaged

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2009-05-25 Thread Micah Gersten
Moved to thunderbird package for TB2+ support. Upstream has confirmed,
so I marked it as Triaged awaiting upstream change.

** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) => thunderbird (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Triaged

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2009-05-25 Thread Micah Gersten
Moved to thunderbird package for TB2+ support. Upstream has confirmed,
so I marked it as Triaged awaiting upstream change.

** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) => thunderbird (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Triaged

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
When I found this 'feature' I asked for comments on Mozilla's forums and
received this encouraging discourse:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=601991 which ultimately
led to Thunderbird being the first open source program I strongly
discourage my clients from using.

Don't expect much support upstream on this.  They believe that any
rational person would understand that "empty trash" means "remove the
e-mail from view but keep on the hard drive" and "compact" means "delete
forever."

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread John Vivirito
Marked as incomplete awaiting upstream comments.

** Changed in: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
just for the record: James Vega has already accepted the patch from
Daniel Hahler.

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-03-27 Thread Thilo Six
ups sorry
wrong bugreport updated

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 174207] Re: thunderbird - when deleting mail, mail is not deleted physically

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Six
** Changed in: thunderbird
 Bugwatch: Mozilla Bugzilla #406848 => Mozilla Bugzilla #341206
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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