Re: [Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-02-07 Thread Arne Goetje
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Bryce Harrington wrote:
 On both gutsy and hardy, fc-match returns:
 
 #Gutsy
 $ fc-match sans
 DejaVu-Sans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book
 
 #Hardy
 $ fc-match sans
 DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book
 
 
 ** Changed in: ubuntu
Importance: Undecided = Low
 
Bryce: This bug has been fixed with the update to ttf-dejavu 2.23-1 in
Hardy. I have marked it as resolved already.


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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-02-04 Thread Arne Goetje
Fixed in 2.23-1 (hardy).

** Changed in: ttf-dejavu (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-30 Thread Arne Goetje
** Changed in: ttf-dejavu (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: fontconfig = ttf-dejavu
   Status: Confirmed = In Progress

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones

** Attachment added: Epiphany Gecko on Wikipedia with italic Sans
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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones
I am really confused as to what is going on with the DejaVu Sans
typeface.

Sans has four styles listed in the GTK font selector: Regular, Italic,
Bold, Bold Italic.

Bitstream Vera has: Roman, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique.

DejaVu Sans has:

ExtraLight (works)
Condensed (works)
Book (works, i.e. Regular/Roman)
Oblique (works fine!)
Condensed Book (seems like it should be Condensed Oblique, as it is italicized)
Condensed Bold (works)
Condensed Bold (AGAIN? Also works, but strange that it appears twice)
Bold (works)
Bold Oblique (works)

So it's strange that there is no Condensed Oblique style, yet Condensed
Book seems to fit the bill, and it is selected when you choose DejaVu
Sans, Italic. I don't get it! :(

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
On both gutsy and hardy, fc-match returns:

#Gutsy
$ fc-match sans
DejaVu-Sans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book

#Hardy
$ fc-match sans
DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book


** Changed in: ubuntu
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones
Here's a test case for Gecko.

Top to bottom:

Sans
Bitstream Vera Sans
DejaVu Sans

DejaVu Sans is broken (as is Sans, by proxy).

** Attachment added: Test case for Gecko
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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
...and this one on Hardy is incorrect.

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones
On my Hardy system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fc-match sans:italic
DejaVuSansCondensed-Oblique.ttf: DejaVu Sans Condensed Book

Weird?

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
#Gutsy
$ fc-match sans:italic
DejaVu-Sans-Oblique.ttf: DejaVu Sans Oblique

#Hardy
$ fc-match sans:italic
DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book


** Changed in: fontconfig (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None = fontconfig
   Importance: Low = Medium
   Target: None = ubuntu-8.04-beta

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
I notice the number of installed DejaVu fonts has changed from gutsy to
hardy, and wonder if that may be contributing to the problem.  Copying
over the dejavu fonts from my gutsy box to my hardy box, and running
`fc-cache -fv` made fc-match return the same as on Gutsy:

$ fc-match sans:italic
DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf: DejaVu Sans Oblique

Yet firefox is still displaying the test case incorrectly, so it must be
something else.

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones
I have noticed, when browsing /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu, that
the DejaVuSansCondensed-Oblique.ttf font (whose name suggests it is the
Condensed Oblique type, has metadata describing it as being the
Condensed Book face. The actual font itself is definitely Condensed
Oblique, so it just looks like a metadata error.

Not sure if this is causing the problem, but it indicates that maybe the
metadata needs checking over.

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
In comparing the source files for ttf-dejavu on gutsy and hardy, it
appears the issue is that the debian/ttf-dejavu-extra.defoma-hints file
for Gutsy had a fix from Arne to correct Oblique vs Italic for Serif
fonts, which is missing on Hardy.  On hardy it appears the package was
sync'd to debian without merging the ubuntu patch.

Assigning to Arne to investigate further.  It appears that the changes
he made for Ubuntu in Gutsy need to be ported to the Hardy version of
the package (and perhaps pushed back up to Debian).

$ diff -u /tmp/ttf-dejavu-extra.defoma-hints 
debian/ttf-dejavu-extra.defoma-hints 
--- /tmp/ttf-dejavu-extra.defoma-hints  2008-01-29 09:39:16.110311167 -0800
+++ debian/ttf-dejavu-extra.defoma-hints2008-01-29 09:35:07.0 
-0800
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@
   GeneralFamily = Roman
   Weight = Medium
   Width = Variable
-  Shape = Serif Oblique
+  Shape = Serif Italic
   Foundry = DejaVu
   Priority = 20
 end
@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@
   GeneralFamily = Roman
   Weight = Bold
   Width = Variable
-  Shape = Serif Oblique
+  Shape = Serif Italic
   Foundry = DejaVu
   Priority = 20
 end
@@ -175,7 +175,7 @@
   GeneralFamily = Roman
   Weight = Medium
   Width = Variable
-  Shape = Serif Oblique Condensed
+  Shape = Serif Italic Condensed
   Foundry = DejaVu
   Priority = 20
 end
@@ -189,7 +189,7 @@
   GeneralFamily = Roman
   Weight = Bold
   Width = Variable
-  Shape = Serif Oblique Condensed
+  Shape = Serif Italic Condensed
   Foundry = DejaVu
   Priority = 20
 end


** Changed in: fontconfig (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Arne Goetje (arnegoetje)

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Bryce Harrington
If I understand this bug report correctly, the issue with the test case
is that on gutsy, this is correct:

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Jones
I have opened a bug about the metadata issue here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-dejavu/+bug/187098 though
I'm not sure if a resolution there leads to a resolution here.

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-19 Thread Alex Jones
Still happening as of latest alpha

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-03 Thread Alex Jones
By the way, DejaVu Sans Condensed is not a separate face, it is part
of DejaVu Sans.

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2008-01-03 Thread Alex Jones
Still happening in Hardy at present.

Sans Regular may be mapped to DejaVu Sans Roman, but Sans Italic is
mapped to DejaVu Sans *Condensed* Oblique or something.

** Changed in: ubuntu
 Assignee: Nanley Chery (nanoman) = (unassigned)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2007-12-21 Thread Nanley Chery
Do you still have this problem? I have tried to reproduce it, but it
seems like DejaVu Sans condensed is not in the font catalogue. And it
also looks like Sans _is_ mapped onto DejaVu Sans.

** Changed in: ubuntu
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Nanley Chery (nanoman)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2007-12-14 Thread Alex Jones
I tried setting my desktop fonts all to DejaVu Sans to remove the
ambiguity, but it seems that programs (in particular notification-
daemon) are still using an italic form of Condensed rather than the
Italic variant.

So maybe this is a bug in DejaVu Sans. I also notice that there is no
Condensed Italic, and Condensed Bold is in fact listed twice. Strange!

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[Bug 176392] Re: Sans Italic is noticably thinner than Sans

2007-12-14 Thread Alex Jones
Using Bitstream Vera, there is no problem. (Sorry for the volume.)

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