[Bug 1792438] Re: [Ubuntu 18.10] Need to enable TM in pseries-cosmic

2018-09-26 Thread  Christian Ehrhardt 
@bssrikanth - the default state is part of the qemu machine type and
therefore version dependent.

Later qemu versions might switch the value, but only for newer machine types.
So if you start with -M "pseries-bionic" it will stay the same definition 
hopefully forever.
And libvirt will set the default machine type queried from qemu when created, 
that machine type stays for the lifecycle of the machine.

A machine for the migration receive at the target is spawned the same
way as the source - so these values should always match.

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[Bug 1792438] Re: [Ubuntu 18.10] Need to enable TM in pseries-cosmic

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Cloke
** Changed in: ubuntu-power-systems
   Status: New => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1792438] Re: [Ubuntu 18.10] Need to enable TM in pseries-cosmic

2018-09-14 Thread  Christian Ehrhardt 
Hi,
I'd not want to diverge from the upstream default in this case.

It is not the effort to carry the patch to enable it in the pseries-cosmic 
type, instead the reasons are:
- Being upstream off means it is less tested and therefore less stable
  ppc64el is already not the most run arch, and a default change unless strictly
  needed would make us a too much of a special snowflake which can be nice
  but all too often also comes with 
- TBH it still seems too buggy
  - Leonardo/Breno will remember all the "switch it off/on" changes we had 
about 4
months ago being scared it would be default on and broken in 2.11 on P9
  - bug 1792501 of tonight shows there are more issues to come (nice timing to 
show my point)
- whenever needed it can be enabled by a user/admin via configuration of the 
guests

I'd recommend to keep it off by default to avoid showing users into a
default mode that (unfortunately) likely might show issues identified
later on.

If you want to switch it on badly you can:
a) request us to do so on your risk. But we can't flip the default after 
feature freeze in a week. And if issues are found I do not want to 
implement/maintain migration workarounds for something that was chosen 
willingly while expecting issues. So it might end up with really bad cases at 
the customers which won't be good (keeping default off and having those that 
want to use it enabling it is much less critical as you know).
b) make it stable enough and switch it on upstream and we will pick it up in 
the qemu version that will do so which at least means Upstream, Ubuntu and all 
others would be affected the same.

** Changed in: qemu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1792438] Re: [Ubuntu 18.10] Need to enable TM in pseries-cosmic

2018-09-13 Thread Frank Heimes
** Also affects: ubuntu-power-systems
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntu-power-systems
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: ubuntu-power-systems
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Canonical Server Team (canonical-server)

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