[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
See also: https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/SAT-with-UAS-Linux -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
For more information about this issue, see https://askubuntu.com/a/1106020/50254 TL;DR: Linux kernel disables 12 and 16 bit SATA Commands over UAS when used with Seagate HDD enclosures. This usb_storage quirk is "t" instead of "u" which forces the device into USB BOT mode. The only way to make S.M.A.R.T. to work with USB HDD enclosure is to use UAS without limitations - that is, no quirk of any kind. Note that full UAS support has been disabled on all Seagate enclosures by default because Seagate had such a poor track record with multiple products. The quirk "t" is enough to avoid the issue and it will not cause equal performance slowdown as the "u" quirk. Note that if you disable all quirks with known-bad Seagate enclosure the S.M.A.R.T. will work but you risk random data corruption if you write any data on the disk. I guess remounting the disk read-only, disabling the "t" quirk, doing S.M.A.R.T. query, re-enable the "t" quirk and remounting read- write could be considered a safe workaround if you really need the S.M.A.R.T. data. More details about possible usb_storage.quirks: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
"but we probably don't need to try any harder tracking down the history of the Armbian kernel releases here in an Ubuntu bug report..." Agreed, so the following is just out of interest... re kernel versions, sorry for the confusion, it looks like the reboot I did today moved me up another kernel release without me realising, so I was on .111 at the beginning of the day and .113 at the end. No idea what might have been there back when things were working, but as you say, it's not so important. lsb_release -a doesn't mention armbian: $ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Release:16.04 Codename: xenial But the login message does: ___ _ _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ / _ \ __| |_ __ ___ (_) __| | \ \/ / | | | || | | | | |/ _` | '__/ _ \| |/ _` | \ /| | | | || |_ | |_| | (_| | | | (_) | | (_| | / \| |_| |__ _| \___/ \__,_|_| \___/|_|\__,_| /_/\_\\___/ |_| Welcome to Ubuntu Xenial with Armbian Linux 4.14.133-odroidxu4 And I should probably stop spamming this bug report with irrelevant noise now. It seems like the problem is well understood, it's a shame there isn't a simpler way of choosing between the uas and usb-storage drivers, but at least it can be done. Many thanks for all the help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 23:50:14 -, James Kingdon wrote: > Hmm, you've got me curious now. It's been a while since I really looked > at the ARM boards. sources.list.d contains armbian.list which has a > single entry: > > deb http://apt.armbian.com xenial main xenial-utils xenial-desktop > > That seems like a reasonable candidate? I don't recall if I used an Well... I off hand don't see 4.14.111-odroidxu4 on the apt.armbian.com site at the moment (only 5.x packages), but that doesn't prove much about what was there in the past... (But if you are indeed using Armbian ["lsb_release -a" should tell you], then the link to the wiki.odroid.com Ubuntu release notes won't be of any help... seems like /boot/ArmbianEnv.txt may be what you are looking for instead.) > References to odroid in /etc/apt seem to be limited to apt.conf.d > /01autoremove-kernels. That might answer your earlier question about > what the previous kernel level was as it mentions 4.14.111. (In your previous email you said the running kernel version was "4.14.111-odroidxu4", so I think it's mentioned in 01autoremove-kernels simply because it's the currently-installed package version but we probably don't need to try any harder tracking down the history of the Armbian kernel releases here in an Ubuntu bug report... :) ) Nathan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
Hmm, you've got me curious now. It's been a while since I really looked at the ARM boards. sources.list.d contains armbian.list which has a single entry: deb http://apt.armbian.com xenial main xenial-utils xenial-desktop That seems like a reasonable candidate? I don't recall if I used an original distro from Odroid or (more likely) went straight for a release from armbian - they were the my favourite when I was building an ARM farm a couple of years ago. References to odroid in /etc/apt seem to be limited to apt.conf.d /01autoremove-kernels. That might answer your earlier question about what the previous kernel level was as it mentions 4.14.111. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 21:59:50 -, James Kingdon wrote: > source.list is using http://ports.ubuntu.com/ Okay, interesting. So I guess most of your install is the armhf architecture packages from ports.ubuntu.com. However, the the kernel you mentioned (4.14.111-odroidxu4) isn't from there; I guess there must be another source.list line pointing to http://deb.odroid.in/5422-s/ or something? (If that is indeed the origin of your kernel packages, it does look like the versons that have been published there do span across the kernel versions were the Seagate NO_ATA_1X patch was introduced) Nathan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
source.list is using http://ports.ubuntu.com/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 18:57:24 -, James Kingdon wrote: > Yes, hdparm -S. Okay, thanks. > Not sure if it's relevant, but the distro is 16.04.6 LTS > (Xenial Xerus) in this case. Okay, yeah, that makes a little more sense. Again, I don't know the timeline on these specific kernels, but in the kernel.org kernel branches the Seagate NO_ATA_1X patch seems to have been applied in Nov/Dec 2017... so I would guess that it was included-from-the-start in the Ubuntu 18.04 kernels, but it would make sense for it to have been newly-added over the lifetime of the 16.04 distribution. (Out of curiousity, what's the path to the package repository given in your /etc/apt/sources.list file? The wiki.odroid.com pages have links for downloading the "install Ubuntu OS" image, but I have't found any information about where the associated package repository is located...) Nathan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
Yes, hdparm -S. Not sure if it's relevant, but the distro is 16.04.6 LTS (Xenial Xerus) in this case. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1810215] Re: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15
** Summary changed: - for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 + for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1810215 Title: for Seagate USB drive enclosures, SAT (e.g. smartmontools, hdparm) works on kernel 4.13 but not on 4.15 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1810215/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
