[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-03-07 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I have an APC SmartUPS-700 and access to a Tripplite (post hardy).

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-03-07 Thread Chuck Short
Hi Pitti,

Yes we do have UPSes for testing, and we will be supporting this for 5
years since its apart of the ServerPackageRevew spec.

Thanks
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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-03-07 Thread Arnaud Quette
if somebody needs an MGE (and possibly a Powerware), please let me know.

For the recall, the former is the official NUT sponsor, and the only
UPS manufacturer 100 % pro FLOSS. And the latter might come soon (I'm
working hardly on this).

Arnaud

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-03-07 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Cool package!

I've had an APC BackUPS ES with a usb since 2002 but never even hooked
it up, assuming that was for a Windows world only.  I'm glad to have
emerged from the darkness.  I managed to get it monitoring working well
with this package, though I have a few suggestions that I hope can be
solved in the packaging installation scripts.

1) I'd suggest the sample scripts installed in their proper locations in 
/etc/nut/ , with the proper ownership and permissions (nut:nut, 600).  These 
samples can have everything commented out.  They don't have to be functional, 
as long as they don't produce security holes.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ls -alF /etc/nut/
total 44
drwxr-xr-x   2 nut  nut   4096 2008-02-21 16:37 ./
drwxr-xr-x 131 root root 12288 2008-02-21 16:13 ../
-rw---   1 nut  nut   3741 2008-02-21 15:14 ups.conf
-rw---   1 nut  nut   2012 2008-02-21 14:26 upsd.conf
-rw---   1 nut  nut   2422 2008-02-21 15:26 upsd.users
-rw---   1 nut  nut  11950 2008-02-21 15:45 upsmon.conf
-rw---   1 nut  nut   3901 2008-02-21 16:37 upssched.conf

2) Why is /usr/share/doc/nut/examples/upsmon.conf.sample.gz compressed
but none of the others?  It's bigger, but not huge.

3) I see /etc/init.d/nut and then /etc/init.d/ups-monitor symlinks to -
/etc/init.d/nut  ...  Why the duplication?

4) Speaking of init scripts, I did have to a couple of lines to my 
/etc/rc.local that would be nice to have in the init scripts (upstart, as it 
may be):
/usr/bin/upsdrvctl start apc
/usr/sbin/upsd
/usr/sbin/upsmon


As a reference, I found this howto to be very, very useful for my APC UPS.
http://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/ups/backups.html

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-03-07 Thread Nick Barcet
Changing status as Martin's questions seems to have been answered.

** Changed in: nut (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-29 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Merged test-nut.py into qa-regression-testing

** Changed in: qa-regression-testing
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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-29 Thread Arnaud Quette
kudos fellows.
I really like working with you ;-)
expect some new features and a better integration for HH+1...

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Oh, and please seed the package to somewhere, so that it stays in main.

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Thanks everyone! nut approved and promoted.

I asked Kees and Jamie to review and merge the test script.

** Changed in: nut (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

** Also affects: qa-regression-testing
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-28 Thread Jamie Strandboge
** Changed in: qa-regression-testing
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jamie Strandboge (jamie-strandboge)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-27 Thread Arnaud Quette
that did indeed ;-)
code committed.
the only remaining point is the bug: I'm not sure to understand you.
Should I add a comment on the present bug or? The QA Regression
Testing does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker.

The branch is as located as per your comment:
https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~aquette/qa-regression-testing/nut-aquette
so http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aquette/qa-regression-testing/nut-aquette

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-27 Thread Nick Barcet
I added your branch to this bug. Thanks a lot!

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-27 Thread Arnaud Quette
2008/2/27, Nick Barcet:
 I added your branch to this bug. Thanks a lot!

ok, I now see the light, thanks ;-)

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-26 Thread Nick Barcet
Arnaud Quette wrote:
 Following our discussion of last friday with Nick, I've quickly
 created a test-nut.py for the QA Regression Testing (master branch).
[...]
 what delivery method would you prefer (I tried logging a bug, but it's
 void)...

I believe you should just:
- create a new branch in [1]
bzr branch
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/qa-regression-testing/master

- push your changes when done
bzr push
bzr+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/~aquette/qa-regression-testing/nut-aquette

- request merging in the Launchpad bug by specifying the bzr branch url

That should do it :)

[1]https://code.launchpad.net/qa-regression-testing/

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-25 Thread Arnaud Quette
Fellows,

Following our discussion of last friday with Nick, I've quickly
created a test-nut.py for the QA Regression Testing (master branch).

I've already explained the general idea to Nick, but for the others,
here is a quick brief:
- NUT provides a dummy driver (dummy-ups) that loads its data from an
upsc output (or create a base set of data otherwise).
- the idea for regression testing is to create a base NUT config,
using dummy-ups, and to start the 3 NUT layers (driver, upsd and
upsmon)
- then you check that the daemons (dummy-ups, upsd and upsmon) are started,
- then you try to get some data (using upsc)
- then you inject a data change in the driver layer (like changing
ups.status to OB, using upsrw), and you verify the data
propagation in the client layer (the same layer as upsmon, still using
upsc)

This is very basic for now, but allows to validate the general NUT
architecture non regression.
I'll look into adding more things in the future, but it's already a
good starting point.

what delivery method would you prefer (I tried logging a bug, but it's
void)...

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-25 Thread Arnaud Quette
2008/2/21, Dustin Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cool package!

thanks

  I've had an APC BackUPS ES with a usb since 2002 but never even hooked
  it up, assuming that was for a Windows world only.  I'm glad to have
  emerged from the darkness.  I managed to get it monitoring working well
  with this package, though I have a few suggestions that I hope can be
  solved in the packaging installation scripts.

  1) I'd suggest the sample scripts installed in their proper locations in 
 /etc/nut/ , with the proper ownership and permissions (nut:nut, 600).  These 
 samples can have everything commented out.  They don't have to be functional, 
 as long as they don't produce security holes.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ls -alF /etc/nut/
  total 44
  drwxr-xr-x   2 nut  nut   4096 2008-02-21 16:37 ./
  drwxr-xr-x 131 root root 12288 2008-02-21 16:13 ../
  -rw---   1 nut  nut   3741 2008-02-21 15:14 ups.conf
  -rw---   1 nut  nut   2012 2008-02-21 14:26 upsd.conf
  -rw---   1 nut  nut   2422 2008-02-21 15:26 upsd.users
  -rw---   1 nut  nut  11950 2008-02-21 15:45 upsmon.conf
  -rw---   1 nut  nut   3901 2008-02-21 16:37 upssched.conf

there are many things underway for the configuration handling.
check the MIR audit for my comments

  2) Why is /usr/share/doc/nut/examples/upsmon.conf.sample.gz compressed
  but none of the others?  It's bigger, but not huge.

bug

  3) I see /etc/init.d/nut and then /etc/init.d/ups-monitor symlinks to -
  /etc/init.d/nut  ...  Why the duplication?

this is due to the ups-monitor role, offered by various packages (nut,
apcupsd, ...)
One method to rule them all...

  4) Speaking of init scripts, I did have to a couple of lines to my 
 /etc/rc.local that would be nice to have in the init scripts (upstart, as it 
 may be):
  /usr/bin/upsdrvctl start apc
  /usr/sbin/upsd
  /usr/sbin/upsmon

this is already done by the nut init script. But you might have missed
/etc/default/nut
in general, have a look at /usr/share/doc/README.Debian for instructions.

though I still have to make this script lsb compliant, and to check
for upstart possible enhancement

  As a reference, I found this howto to be very, very useful for my APC UPS.
  http://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/ups/backups.html

yup, Peter is (though somehow retired currently) a member of the NUT team.
Note that the doc rewritte is underway using the new web Wiki infra
(test.networkupstools.org)
And also that the Integrated Power Management will make it easy for
USB UPS owners:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/integrated-usb-ups-support

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-20 Thread Martin Pitt
Thanks, Arnaud for the report improvements, and Jamie for the security
review. The packages, as well as the current level of proactive security
seems adequate to me.

Since this package is likely to need some real maintenance and support,
I'd like to get some commitments on this before approval.

 - Server team, does any of you have an UPS for testing and developing this 
package?
 - Server team, please put a commitment here that we have the necessary 
manpower to support, develop, and fix this package in the next 5 years of 
Hardy's life. 
 - Arnaud, do you happen to be interested in helping with the maintenance in 
Ubuntu, too? (e. g. have a look at the bug reports, etc.)

Thank you!

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   Status: New = Incomplete

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-20 Thread Arnaud Quette
fellows,

2008/2/20, Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks, Arnaud for the report improvements, and Jamie for the security
 review.

you're welcome ;-)

 The packages, as well as the current level of proactive security
 seems adequate to me.

 Since this package is likely to need some real maintenance and support,
 I'd like to get some commitments on this before approval.

  - Server team, does any of you have an UPS for testing and developing this 
 package?

I can check for some UPS providing if needed...

  - Server team, please put a commitment here that we have the necessary 
 manpower to support, develop, and fix this package in the next 5 years of 
 Hardy's life.
  - Arnaud, do you happen to be interested in helping with the maintenance in 
 Ubuntu, too? (e. g. have a look at the bug reports, etc.)

I'm trying to help NUT improvement and integration everywhere, and
most of all on Debian and Ubuntu... so, yes I'm interested in.

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-14 Thread Matthias Klose
reconfirmed with Martin; we should address Jamie's concerns and the
Completely unprivileged upsmon before inclusion in main.

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-14 Thread Arnaud Quette
well, that will have to wait for NUT 2.4, so HH+1...

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-14 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportNut for details on
my (very) high-level audit.

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-14 Thread Arnaud Quette
just some comments to ease your audit:
- all the mentioned functions (upslog*, upsdebug*, fatal*) point to
vupslog, and vupslog use only numbered copy functions,
- we centralize as much as possible such kind of functions to manage
the security and reliability of NUT,
- we enforce in general the use of numbered copy,
- I've just started to formalize our QA effort:
http://test.networkupstools.org/Documentation/UserManual/QualityAssurance
Not much there yet, but it will expose our many effort to enhance NUT
quality in general.

I hope this helps.

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-08 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Arnaud,

I was curious as to why the Debian packaging doesn't do the 'security domains' 
as listed in:
http://www.networkupstools.org/faq/

or even the chrooting as in:
http://www.networkupstools.org/doc/2.2.0/chroot.html

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-08 Thread Arnaud Quette
Hi Jamie,

2008/2/8, Jamie Strandboge [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Arnaud,

 I was curious as to why the Debian packaging doesn't do the 'security 
 domains' as listed in:
 http://www.networkupstools.org/faq/

 or even the chrooting as in:
 http://www.networkupstools.org/doc/2.2.0/chroot.html

well, the answers would be: because...
- the security scheme of the current debs are inherited from the
previous maintainer,
- no users have explicitly expressed the need (or wish) of more
security hardening by default,
- I've not had yet the time to cleanly complete these packages (need
debconf, cdbs refactoring, security hardening), nor received help to
do so,
- I've dedicated most of my time upstream (you might want to have a
look at my launchpad wiki),
- ...

You have missed that one ;-)
Completely unprivileged upsmon (to drop the remaining root privs)
http://www.networkupstools.org/doc/2.2.0/ideas.html

In fact, I have the NPS project linked to the packaging
standardization and improvement. I've explicitly added a security
hardening comment:
https://alioth.debian.org/pm/?group_id=30602

So, if you're interested in helping, you're more than welcome ;-)

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-02-01 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: nut (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-01-24 Thread Arnaud Quette
I've uploaded nut 2.2.1-1 yesterday in Debian.
I've logged a sync request too:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nut/+bug/185565

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-01-22 Thread Matthias Klose
- ubuntu-security, please could you provide a source code review of the
server part?

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[Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-01-22 Thread Matthias Klose
- upstream == debian, so it's strange that the activity status is that different
- the package done by debian is outdated (2.2.0); please update to the 2.2.1 
release for hardy
  see http://www.networkupstools.org/source/2.2/ChangeLog
- the shared libraries should be split out into its own binary package; there 
is at least one more
  package build-depending on net-dev.


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   Status: New = Incomplete

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Re: [Bug 182790] Re: main inclusion report

2008-01-22 Thread Arnaud Quette
guys,

first; it's a pleasure to see this since I wasn't aware of ;-)
I took the liberty to complete it a bit the report.

some more notes:
- 2.2.1 packages are underway (should be done by the end of this
week). I've been busy with many things upstream... and real life

 - the shared libraries should be split out into its own binary package; there 
 is at least one more
   package build-depending on net-dev.

yup, wmnut. none else (for the moment)
but no shared link. static only.

you should also:
- have a look at that one:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/integrated-usb-ups-support

- know that when I'm done with completing the above, I'll get back on
the NUT config side: a library and an helper that will allow the easy
creation of NUT config GUIs (debconf and others)

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