[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1
pulseaudio 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 with the new dependency was republished in bug #1781428 ** Summary changed: - pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd + pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
I know, I've asked for an update just now. Tracking more generally in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bugs?field.tag=update-reverted ** Tags added: update-reverted -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
Still stuck on version 7.5 3 months later. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)wrote on 2019-12-12: #5 The Xenial/Bionic SRUs have been removed until the Recommends on snapd gets lowered to a Suggest And when will they be re-published? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
This issue is being addressed via https://pad.lv/1856196 ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
@Gord > There are no circumstances where it makes sense to have libsnapd-glib1 as a > dependency of > pulseaudio. Really it that it does, it"s a shared library and those are not optional under linux, you can have a read about ELF e.g here if you are intested https://lwn.net/Articles/631631/ Libraries are small and don't create real overhead, you probably have binaries pulling other libs you don't want. GTK for example does pull in libwayland and it's not optional either -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
Bug #1856196 is now used to SRU the snapd-glib Recommends->Suggests change, closing the pulseaudio side since the update got reverted for now and the actual bug is not there ** No longer affects: snapd-glib (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
If you want to speak to the snapd guys and ask them to make libsnapd- glib1 a dependency of snapd, by all means do so. There are no circumstances where it makes sense to have libsnapd-glib1 as a dependency of pulseaudio. Pulseaudio and Snap are two seperate entities, and only those with snapd installed actually need snapd library support. I don't want it. I don't need it, and I certainly don't want the dependencies it drags in. And I don't want to have to make admin changes to accomodate the whims and fanciful notions of others. And that, I think, is all I wish to say on the matter. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
** Also affects: snapd-glib (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags added: rls-bb-incoming rls-xx-incoming ** Tags removed: rls-xx-incoming ** Tags added: rls-x-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
If you are worried about what the Pulse Audio change is actually doing, here's a description: 1. there is a new "snap-policy" PA module that is loaded by default. 2. when a client attempts to use the microphone and has a "snap.*" AppArmor label, it contacts snapd to check whether that app has permission to record audio (as opposed to simply playing sounds). 3. if the client is not a snap application or it is a snap application with record access, then PA will create record stream. So there should be no problem with removing snapd again. In fact the policy module should effectively be inert if no snaps are ever run, not even trying to talk to snapd. The "Recommends: snapd" is definitely too strong for the way Pulse Audio is using libsnapd-glib. Once snapd-glib's dependency is relaxed, we should be able to push this update again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
The Xenial/Bionic SRUs have been removed until the Recommends on snapd gets lowered to a Suggest -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
Note also that it's only a recommends, so while the problem is being worked on you can install the SRU using --no-install-recommends as a workaround (or remove snapd again after update) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd
AFAICT the addition of snapd as an indirect recommends was an unintended consequence of the update, so I'm tagging this regression-update. ** Tags added: regression-update -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1
@Gord, is your issue with libsnapd-glib or with the fact that the lib recommends snapd and that recommends are pulled in by default? The library as Daniel pointed out shouldn't be an issue, it's small and not doing anything if the service is not there. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed ** Summary changed: - pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 + pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1856054] Re: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1
It appears libsnapd-glib1 uses around 300 KB of disk space and has minimal dependencies: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.46), libjson-glib-1.0-0 (>= 1.2.0), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.39.2) Is there something undesirable here or is it just a matter of preference? Generally speaking I agree software dependencies have become absurd in some cases. But more objectively I would like to understand if there is some specific issue here. ** Tags added: bionic ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1856054 Title: pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
