[Bug 1862467] Re: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment
** Changed in: kdelibs Status: Incomplete => Invalid ** Bug watch added: github.com/autokey/autokey/issues #87 https://github.com/autokey/autokey/issues/87 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Window-level scaling in action: https://youtu.be/dxsUKX6xXyE?t=37 For me, Wayland isn't worth not being about to use applications like Autokey: https://github.com/autokey/autokey/issues/87 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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Well, one consequence of using old versions in the name of stability is that sometimes they're actually more buggy than newer ones. :) This is one example. 2.25x scale looks perfect in Plasma as well (I used it for a long time) provided you use Wayland or set PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1 on X11 due to Bug 356446. We're very close to being there IMO. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/4M7THzl.png Here are the versions I'm using, according to "System Info": Operating System: Kubuntu 20.04 KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.68.0 Qt Version: 5.12.8 Kernel Version: 5.4.0-58-generic OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 12 × Intel® Core™ i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz Memory: 62.8 GiB of RAM Nate, I've changed from being a Linux Enthusiast (who likes to see each update as it comes out). I prefer to run Long Term Support releases like Kubuntu 20.04, these days. I don't play much on the computer anymore; I work. That said. My favorite Desktop Environment ever was Unity 7. On that DE, if I set scaling to 2.25 on my 4K monitors. All apps looked perfect to my aging eyes. Since Unity 7, ever DE I've used has a half-ass ability to truly do global scaling. Take KDE for example (since that's what I'm using these days). Yeah, it can scale QT apps pretty well, but does a poor Job with GTK apps. That's not a true "global scaling". That's framework-specific scaling. That 192 DPI hack was the only reason I was able to stick with KDE. It was the only glue that made all my apps visible to me on 4K monitors (QT or GTK). If KDE really wanted to be innovative, they create a window manager where each window can be scaled by holding down ctrl while resizing the corner of a window. This would re-scale that window while maintaining aspect ratio. If you hold down control while clicking the right, left, top, or bottom side of a window, aspect ratio would NOT be maintained. I desire this too sometimes. Believe it or not, there was DE that accomplished this back in 2007, called Metisse. I experience this by installing this ISO back in 2007: http://iso.linuxquestions.org/mandriva/mandriva-one-2007-metisse/#live-cd YouTube has a couple of videos showing what you could do with this: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Metisse+desktop It was so cool! You'd think these would be standard features by now, but no. Innovation has been ignored in favor of the lowest common denominator. The future was shown to me in 2007. 13+ years later and no one is implementing window-level scaling: not Linux, not MAC, not Windows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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You're not wrong that there's a bug with the sizes of certain controls when you just change the font size or DPI. However this is because these controls are meant to be scaled using the Qt scaling system (which gets invoked by changing the global scale in the KScreen KCM) rather than scaling perfectly with the font size. What you're trying to do is bypass that system and set an *effective* scale factor using a totally different method to work around a bug in GTK apps, which is not something we explicitly support. That said, GTK apps should scale perfectly with integer scale factors (e.g. 2x) set from the kscreen KCM. They do for me with a 200% scale factor in Plasma 5.20. What version of Plasma are you using? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Nate, Before I set DPI to 192, GTK based application had fonts that were way too small: Remmina, Firefox, inkscape, etc. While global scale settings seemed to work fine for KDE apps. It didn't seem to be a true global scaling, else why was it not able to scale GTK apps just the same as KDE apps? If you'll look at that screenshot I attached a few moments ago, I think I'm adequately explaining a more fundamental issue. Proper coding of these controls should utilize more horizontal space when it is available. In that screenshot, you can see that there are several inches of horizontal space, but the width of the font-controls is NOT utilizing it. That's a more fundamental issue. If you're going to support DPI adjustment, the layout and sizing of these controls should be able to accommodate a 192 dpi and 14pt or greater font. This is a badly designed form, because it underutilized horizontal space. I cannot read the Font-Name in its entirety on a 4K display! You don't chop off text when there is plenty of screen real- estate to display it in full. That's what I'm reporting here. I'm not looking for a work-around; Everything else works great (QT and GDK) exactly how I have my settings (except for this badly designed "Font - System Settings" control layout and sizing). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Nate, I edited this file in Kubuntu 20.04: sudo nano /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.plasmashell.desktop I added this line: PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1 After rebooting, I noticed no effect. Please take a look at the screenshot I submitted in my previous post a few moments ago. This was taken AFTER setting PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1 and rebooting. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I was mistaken about that; PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1 has no effect. What's needed is to adjust the global scale using the Displays page, not by manually setting the font DPI to something else. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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Well there's your problem. :) Setting the font DPI to 192 is not the correct way to make scaling work. You should use the global scale setting in the Displays page, which automatically sets the DPI to 192 for you, but also does a bunch of extra stuff to make layouts not break. In newer versions of Plasma, the Fonts KCM has a warning telling you this if you try to perform scaling by only changing the font DPI. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 134290 Better Screenshot Emphasizing Unused Horizontal Space -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Out of curiosity, does the situation improve is you restart plasmashell and system settings with the PLASMA_USE_QT_SCALING=1 environment variable set? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1862467] Re: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment
** Changed in: kdelibs Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 126143 Forced DPI to 192 In order to get GNOME applications to not be too small on my 4K monitors, I had to force DPI to 192, but even before I did that, the font utility still didn't make good use of the available horizontal space. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 126138 display scale 200% Same on my system if I set display scale to 200%. Operating System: Arch Linux KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.0 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.67.0 Qt Version: 5.14.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1862467] Re: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment
Launchpad has imported 1 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417314. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2020-02-08T18:36:47+00:00 Lonnie Lee Best wrote: Created attachment 125772 image showcasing underutilized horizontal space In system settings, the font-adjustment interface should utilize more horizontal space when it is available, so that font-names can be seen in their entirety while viewing the various font settings. Screenshot showcasing underutilized horizontal space: http://neartalk.com/ss/useMoreHorizonalSpaceForAdjustFonts.png ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.10 Package: kubuntu-desktop 1.387 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.3.0-29.31-generic 5.3.13 Uname: Linux 5.3.0-29-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu8.2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: KDE Date: Sat Feb 8 12:14:30 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-03 (5 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: kubuntu-meta UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu- meta/+bug/1862467/comments/2 ** Changed in: kdelibs Status: Unknown => New ** Changed in: kdelibs Importance: Unknown => Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1862467] Re: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment
** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #417314 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417314 ** Also affects: kdelibs via https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417314 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1862467] [NEW] Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment
Public bug reported: In Kubuntu's system settings, the GUI interface should utilize more of the available horizontal space, so that font-names can be seen in their entirety, while viewing them. Screenshot: http://neartalk.com/ss/useMoreHorizonalSpaceForAdjustFonts.png ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.10 Package: kubuntu-desktop 1.387 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.3.0-29.31-generic 5.3.13 Uname: Linux 5.3.0-29-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu8.2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: KDE Date: Sat Feb 8 12:14:30 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-03 (5 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: kubuntu-meta UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug eoan third-party-packages -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1862467 Title: Utilize More Horizontal During Font Adjustment To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1862467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
