[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-12 Thread zdohnal
I basically do the same in Fedora - reverting models.dat to its state in
3.20.5, because I don't have resource to actually test.

I based my report on assumption you actually have a internal versioning
system (git, svn, bazaar, gitlab, github...) so you can revert commits
regarding the plugin change.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-12 Thread Didier Raboud
In Debian, I have been successful with the attached patch against
3.20.9. It's basically a revert to the state of these printers at the
state of models.dat in the 3.20.5 version.

** Patch added: 
"0076-3.20.6-regression-In-models.dat-take-3.20.5-s-plugin.patch"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1883898/+attachment/5421380/+files/0076-3.20.6-regression-In-models.dat-take-3.20.5-s-plugin.patch

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-12 Thread zdohnal
Hi Shivani,

I'm sorry I don't have such a list.

Did you have such a list when you removed the dependency on plugin for
other models in 3.20.6?

I base my request (revert all plugin dependency made in 3.20.6) upon the
following logic:

- when model support was added it was tested by HPLIP project owners
- when user had a plugin problem with a model (the model needed a plugin 
although models.dat says it doesn't), he reached HPLIP project owners with the 
issue and they updated models.dat

so based on the prerequisites it doesn't make sense to remove dependency
on plugin for models, unless you have a list of devices which you tested
and actually don't need a plugin but they are noted as they need a
plugin.

Wouldn't it make sense to revert the 'plugin state' to the state before
3.20.6, depending on the presumption 'the previous state was tested' is
true?

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-11 Thread shivani mandora
Hi Zdohnal,

We have reverted the changes only for the printers which are part of
plugin.spec file which are few old laserjets printers and which require
plugins to print.

Could you provide the list of printers on which you think plugins are needed?
I will verify and revert.

We have not verified on all the devices because of the device
availability because few of them are very old.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-04 Thread Didier Raboud
One concrete example: `drv:///hpcups.drv/hp-
laserjet_professional_p1107.ppd`

In 3.20.5, in hpcups.drv, it had as NickName:

  "HP LaserJet Professional p1107, hpcups $Version, requires proprietary
plugin"

… this was changed in 3.20.6 to:

  "HP LaserJet Professional p1107, hpcups $Version"

… and unchanged in 3.20.9.

In models.dat, for that model, 3.20.5 had

  plugin=1
  plugin-reason=1

… this was changed in 3.20.6 to

  plugin=0
  plugin-reason=1

… and unchanged in 3.20.9.

But printing to this driver/printer gives a filter error:

  STATE: +hplip.plugin-error
  prnt/hpcups/HPCupsFilter.cpp 490: m_Job initialization failed with error = 48

(see https://salsa.debian.org/printing-team/hplip/-/jobs/937420 )

So although this was fixed for several printers, it certainly wasn't for
all printers.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-10-02 Thread zdohnal
Hi Shivani,

version 3.20.9 fixed plugin plugin requirement for several models, but
other models stayed with the situation from 3.20.6.

And there are several models which have 'plugin-reason=65' (meaning it
needs a plugin for printing and scanning), but have 'plugin=0' (means it
doesn't need a plugin). Shouldn't they have rather 'plugin=1'?

Did you test whether models which you didn't revert 3.20.6 changes for
work without plugin?

Thank you in advance,

Zdenek

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-08-16 Thread Chris York
@ Shivani Mandora

Kindly wait till next release.

Has a date been earmarked?

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-08-16 Thread shivani mandora
Hi ,


We will revert the changes for these laserjets and release it in our next 
release. 

Thanks for drawing our attention on this. Kindly wait till next release.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-07-13 Thread zdohnal
Hi Shivani,

thank you for looking into the issue!

> Could you please provide the printer model name you are using?

HP LaserJet M1536dnf MFP

> HPLIP does not need to install plugin in order to print. It only
requires plugin in order to > scan.

Unfortunately, it is not true for several devices, e.g.:

hp laserjet cp 1025nw
hp laserjet professional p 1102w

Their PDL is zjstream, which is supported only by binary blob downloaded
via hp-plugin.

> Previously, few entities in models.dat had remained as plugin=1 , which has 
> been removed in 
> 3.20.6 release.

Actually, 'plugin=1' doesn't mean the plugin is needed for printing, but
it means whether it is needed or not. The reason why the plugin is
needed is covered by 'plugin-reason' (e.g. plugin-reason=64 means the
plugin is needed for scanning). So when all 'plugin=1' entries were
removed, all those devices think they don't need a plugin (for printing,
or scanning, or both) and fail to print/scan anything if the plugin
wasn't installed previously (common use case when installing a printer
on freshly installed OS).

If I look into current upstream models.dat, it seems only scanjet models
are marked as they need plugin. Multi-function devices are not taken
into account.

Ad previous 'plugin=0/1' settings - I'm not sure how many HP devices you
have at hand for testing, but at least when I look into
scan/sane/hpaio.c:

if ((ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_MARVELL) || (ma.scantype == 
HPMUD_SCANTYPE_MARVELL2))
   return marvell_open(devicename, pHandle);
if (ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_SOAP)
   return soap_open(devicename, pHandle);
if (ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_SOAPHT)
   return soapht_open(devicename, pHandle);
if (ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_LEDM)
   return ledm_open(devicename, pHandle);
if ((ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_SCL) || (ma.scantype == 
HPMUD_SCANTYPE_SCL_DUPLEX) ||(ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_PML))
   return sclpml_open(devicename, pHandle);
if (ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_ESCL)
   return escl_open(devicename, pHandle);
if (ma.scantype == HPMUD_SCANTYPE_ORBLITE)
   return orblite_open(devicename, pHandle);
else
   return SANE_STATUS_UNSUPPORTED;

all device types except for SCL and PML call bb_load() function, which loads 
symbols from binary plugins downloaded via hp-plugin.
To sum it up, I would say most devices which are able to scan and didn't have 
'plugin=1' and 'plugin-reason=64' had bad entries in models.dat and supposed to 
require a binary plugin for scanning.

> Also plugin has nothing to do with python version. It will work on
python3 as well.

I wasn't the one who thought it is a python issue.

> Please install plugin via ,
> $sh hplip-3.20.6.plugin.run

This will certainly help, but you are missing the point. Before
hplip-3.20.6, hp-setup (with models.dat help) was able to install the
plugin automatically, when it recognized that found device needs it.
models.dat is used as a database about device features, including
plugin.

After hplip-3.20.6, models.dat lost info for several models regarding
plugin, making them unusable unless you manually install the plugin.

IMO making a device work, which your suggestion does, is quite different
from 'making a device work in user-friendly way', which hp-setup offered
(for those devices, which plugin/plugin-reason were set correctly)
before version 3.20.6 and which should be preferred for a long-term
solution.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-07-06 Thread shivani mandora
Hi zdenek,

Could you please provide the printer model name you are using? 
HPLIP does not need to install plugin in order to print. It only requires 
plugin in order to scan. 
Previously, few entities in models.dat had remained as plugin=1 , which has 
been removed in 3.20.6 release. 

Also plugin has nothing to do with python version. It will work on
python3 as well.

Please install plugin via ,
$sh hplip-3.20.6.plugin.run


** Changed in: hplip
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-29 Thread zdohnal
Hi Didier,

let's talk about it over email, it is kind of off-topic here.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-26 Thread Didier Raboud
zdohnal: Debian's patch queue is visible here:
https://sources.debian.org/src/hplip/3.20.6+dfsg0-1/debian/patches/ , or
as git commits here: https://salsa.debian.org/printing-
team/hplip/-/commits/debian/experimental/ As you can see, many are
yours, carefully hand-picked from
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/hplip/tree/master. I wonder if it
would make sense to start an hplip-with-patches-for-linux-distros
project to base our distro packages on a common base. But it would be
obviously best for everyone if these patches would be taken over by
hplip upstream; just saying.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-24 Thread zdohnal
> I really wish hplip upstream developement would happen on a public VCS,
> so that we could better understand the reasons behind such changes (and
> a place where we could discuss our 74 patches…).

Damn, I need to get better :) we have only 56 downstream patches :D

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-24 Thread Didier Raboud
Thanks @zdohnal for this bug. Thanks to your report, I have uploaded our
repackaged 3.20.6+dfsg0 to debian/experimental only, so it won't be
auto-sync'ed to Debian.

I really wish hplip upstream developement would happen on a public VCS,
so that we could better understand the reasons behind such changes (and
a place where we could discuss our 74 patches…).

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-23 Thread zdohnal
Another issue caused by the change mentioned in this issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1884835

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-22 Thread zdohnal
@ seb128,

It was just my guess what can be wrong if plugin installation goes wrong
after removing python2 support in Ubuntu, based on my experience with
python2 removal in Fedora.

@ till-kamppeter

IMO this issue is different from what you mentioned, unless disabling
the requirement is an outcome of the issue you mentioned.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-21 Thread zdohnal
@ Chris York,

thank you for the link! Unfortunately, the issue I report in this ticket
is a different from the issue in the link.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-19 Thread Chris York
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Hi, all I was doing was echoing what the consensus of opinion was after 
upgrading to 20.04LTS, see 
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/hplip-missing-files/21782 for more information.
If you think that the reasoning behind the opinion is wrong then by all means 
offer an alternative, as I said I was just offering an opinion.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@zdohnal, not having an 'unversioned' python is a choice and what
upstream is doing as well on the way to transition to python3 being the
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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
Hi Till,

the plugin has a script inside itself, which calls 'python' binary - we
have 'python' file as a symlink to 'python3' in Fedora, but Ubuntu seems
to do not have a such binary or symlink.

Seems like a bug for Ubuntu Python team, but it is still a different
issue than this one is, turning off plugin requirement for most devices.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
Hi Chris,

I beg to differ - this issue has nothing to do with python 2 -> python 3
move. Plugins are binary blobs, not python scripts and installation
scripts shipped with them are python 3 compatible.

It is about HPLIP upstream changed the 'plugin' and 'plugin-reason'
entries in models.dat to '0' for most devices which needed it before.

It results into problems described above in certain situations.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread Till Kamppeter
The bug report has an upstream task, so the HPLIP developers at HP
should be aware.

Seems that the main (free software) part of HPLIP which comes packaged
with the Linux distributions has no problem with Python 3 but the
proprietary plugin which one has to install separately for certain
devices requires Python 2. Newer distro versions, especially also Ubuntu
20.04 LTS have dropped Python 2 completely in favor of Python 3, as
nowadays practically all important free software projects work with
Python 3.

To the HPLIP developers at HP, can you make sure that the plugin works
also on systems with only Python 3 and no Python 2 installed? On Ubuntu
20.04 LTS and many other newer Linux distributions Python 2 got removed.

In many cases, especially on printers which need the plug-in only for
scanning one can go a driverless way without HPLIP or anything
proprietary needed.

If you run the utility

driverless

on the command line and an entry corresponding to your printer gets
listed, it should work driverless. Also if system-config-printer lists
your device under the discovered network printers (independent whether
it is connected by USB or network, the driverless printing/scanning
framework emulates a network printer if the device is connected to USB)
with an entry with "driverless" under the connection types, you can do
driverless printing.

SANE frontends like simple-scan should list your printer, too. Make sure
to select an entry which contains "eSCL".

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread Chris York
The  issue which is affecting all flavours of Ubuntu 20.04LTS and HPLIP is 
already known. In short the move from python 2 to python 3 in 20.04 renders 
HPLIP all but useless as the scanning features required by HP MFP`s require the 
plug-in which cannot be installed because the python 2 dependencies cannot be 
resolved.
I am sure the HP developers are aware of this due to past reporting, we can 
only await for the fix to arrive

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On 2020-06-18T07:54:04+00:00 zdohnal wrote:

The newest version of hplip turns off plugin requirements for most
printers.

If the plugin wasn't installed in the past on the machine, it negatively
affects HPLIP supported queues:

- printing for devices which need a plugin for printing
- scanning for all devices which uses HPLIP

I currently reverted the change, but it should be upstreamed - I
reported it as
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/1883898 .

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1883898/comments/2


** Changed in: hplip (Fedora)
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: hplip (Fedora)
   Importance: Unknown => Undecided

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  version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
Hi Sebastien,

as I wrote in the previous comment, I filed the issue for Ubuntu for the
future, because it seems new hplip version hasn't arrived yet.

I'm able to reproduce the issue with my MFD device - HP LaserJet m1536 -
with scanning. According of hpaio code, most devices are using a plugin
for scanning.

The basic reproducer is (after you install hplip-3.20.6):

Prereq:
- has an OS which haven't had HP plugin installed before ('hp-plugin' wasn't 
run successfully)
- has a device which needs HP plugin for printing or scanning or for both
- printing and scanning needs to be done via HPLIP, not via any driverless 
solutions (print queue device uri needs to start with 'hp://', scanner device 
uri with 'hpaio://')

Steps to reproduce for printing (if the device needs HP plugin for printing):
1) install the print queue via hp-setup
2) try to print

Actual result:
Printing fails due missing plugin

Expected result:
Printing goes well


Steps to reproduce for scanning (if the device needs HP plugin for scanning):
1) find out your scanner device uri with:
 
$ scanimage -L

2) take hpaio:// uri from previous uri and use scanimage to scan:

$ scanimage -d  >out.pnm

Actual results:
Scanning fails with Device I/O.

Expected results:
Scanning works.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and help make Ubuntu
better. Unfortunately, we cannot work on this bug because your
description didn't include enough information. You may find it helpful
to read 'How to report bugs effectively'
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html. We'd be grateful
if you would then provide a more complete description of the problem.

We have instructions on debugging some types of problems at
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures.

At a minimum, we need:
1. The specific steps or actions you took that caused you to encounter the 
problem.
2. The behavior you expected.
3. The behavior you actually encountered (in as much detail as possible).

Thanks!

** Changed in: hplip (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #1848332
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1848332

** Also affects: hplip (Fedora) via
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1848332
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
I added that affects Ubuntu as well even when they haven't got 3.20.6 in
their repos yet, because it is just matter of time they will have and
the issue will affect them too.

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[Bug 1883898] Re: version 3.20.6 turns off plugin requirement for most printers

2020-06-18 Thread zdohnal
** Also affects: hplip (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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