[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[scheleaap]

Thank you for investigating and solving the problem, everyone!

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Yet another Ask Ubuntu confirmation:
https://askubuntu.com/a/1291705/159370

I committed the patch to the ubuntu/focal branch.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

On 2020-11-12 09:44, scheleaap wrote:
> After booting my computer this morning I tested again (using X) and
> the problem seems to be gone.

Great news!

> When I tested the patch yesterday, I logged out and back in again.
> Could it be that that was not enough to apply the patch, and a reboot
> was necessary?

Could be. Myself always reboot before testing changes to such core
components as mutter is.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[scheleaap]

After booting my computer this morning I tested again (using X) and the
problem seems to be gone. When I tested the patch yesterday, I logged
out and back in again. Could it be that that was not enough to apply the
patch, and a reboot was necessary?

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

That sounds promising, Leonid. The submitter of
 also confirmed that the PPA packages
fix a similar issue.

Maybe the fix we are testing only addresses issues with xkb-options.
scheleaap's case seems to be about using some other keyboard layout but
the system one. While it's indeed a similar case, it's not identical and
the mechanisms behind the scenes differ.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Leonid Porozhneta]

Cannot confirm behavior described at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1899206/comments/30

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Leonid Porozhneta]

Sorry, i obviously don't understand something (or anything) about updates.
Now it's fixed

porozhnetalv@porozhnetalv-m50sv:~$ dpkg -l | grep libmutter-6-0
ii  libmutter-6-0:amd643.36.6-1ubuntu0.20.04.3~ppa2 
   amd64window manager library from the Mutter window manager

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Leonid Porozhneta]

I've added PPA gunnarhj/mutter and updated
porozhnetalv@porozhnetalv-m50sv:~$ dpkg -l | grep libmutter-6-0
ii  libmutter-6-0:amd643.36.6-1ubuntu0.20.04.2  
   amd64window manager library from the Mutter window manager

This fix is definitely relevant to the bug however it have not really
fixed it.

I'm using "Additional Layout Options" to enable "Switching to another layout" 
with Caps Lock.
With this update on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect laptop embedded keyboard's 
CapsLock changes layout and external keyboard's CapsLock works as real Caps.
Even more to that: after external keyboard's Caps pressing first press of 
internal keyboard's Caps is ignored.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[scheleaap]

This is my output:

$ dpkg -l | grep libmutter-6-0
ii  libmutter-6-0:amd64 
3.36.6-1ubuntu0.20.04.3~ppa2amd64window 
manager library from the Mutter window manager

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

To be sure you are really testing the fix please run:

  dpkg -l | grep libmutter-6-0

and tell us what it displays.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[scheleaap]

I might be experiencing this issue too, but I am unsure. I am posting
this in case it helps.

After upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04, whenever I remove my
external keyboard and plug it back in, the external keyboard's layout
switches to US English instead of whatever it was set to (a custom
layout in my case, but I confirmed it with other, built-in layouts too).
The laptop's built-in keyboard layout remains correct.

I applied @gunnarhj's fix, but the behavior did not change. (Again, I am
not sure I if the problem I'm experiencing has the same root cause as
the OP's problem.)

However, I was able to work around the problem by switching to Wayland.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Ok, the assumed fix is available for testing in this PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/mutter

Would be great if some users who are affected by this bug could install
the mutter packages from the PPA and let us know if it helps.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

Maybe someone needs to test the fix first to make sure it really is
relevant to this bug :)

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1553.patch

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Can this be fixed as some kind of "extras" in connection with the update
to 3.36.7? I have seen several questions at Ask Ubuntu which seem
related to this bug.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

Actually the upstream bug link says it's definitely fixed in 3.38.2 :)

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

** Tags added: fixed-in-3.38.2 fixed-upstream

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

Possibly fixed in mutter 3.38.2 by:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1553


** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[koyakun]

This seems similar to bug 1902001.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[yotama9]

Hi, I've upgraded my machine to 20.10. This has updated my mutter
version to the buggy one. Now my keyboard layout configurations are
cancelled randomly not only after boot/sleep. Even worse, I cannot
install the 3.36.1 anymore.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

This might turn out to be the same issue as bug 1899509.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Martin Wimpress]

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

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** Also affects: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues #3299
   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3299

** Also affects: gnome-shell via
   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3299
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[yotama9]

Hi,

I would like to report what appears to be a similar issue. I have a
Logitech bluetooth keyboard. I used gnome-tweak-tools to set CapsLock to
change layout. After reboot, the key binding didn't work and I had to
open gnome-tweaks-tools again and just check and then uncheck some box.
Downgrading gnome-shell didn't work and in fact removed also gnome-
tweaks. Downgrading mutter, and then installing gnome-tweask again
solved the issue.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@mhalsharif: I'm currently not using any Apple hardware, but I'm seeing
all the same behavior you are (except I don't lose settings on
lock/unlock).

I have currently done the following things:
* I moved all my keyboard customizations from dconf settings 
[/org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options] (which is where Tweak Tool puts 
the config) and put them in /etc/default/keyboard:XKBOPTIONS. Since these 
settings are default, when the keyboard resets to these defaults, it resets 
back to the config I want. (This fixes the keyboard reset, but still will not 
fix the mouse resetting issue.) If you want to try this approach, you can just 
add the default configuration options like this:
XKBOPTIONS="shift:both_capslock,ctrl:swap_lalt_lctl_lwin,caps:escape"

* I have also downgraded mutter (`sudo apt install
mutter=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 mutter-common=3.36.1-3ubuntu3
libmutter-6-0=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 gir1.2-mutter-6=3.36.1-3ubuntu3`). This
downgraded version fixes all the resetting issues (although I'm stuck on
the downgraded mutter version until a fix gets released).

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[M Alsharif]

@westonhunter: I use gnome tweasks to swap the left Win with left Ctrl
on my Apple keyboard. To clarify, that setting is lost even after I type
in my password and get back into the desktop. As a temporary solution, I
set "blank screen delay" to never and disabled "automatic screen lock",
so I don't have to reset the gnome session everytime my screen goes
blank.

Do you use Apple Keyboard? I am not sure if this behaviour have
something to do with that. I should also mention that I use Apple Magic
Mouse II and noticed that "Natural Scrolling" does not work when the
mouse is reconnected or the system is restarted. So I would have to
reset the gnome session for the "Natural Scrolling" to work. All these
settings were working as expected before I installed the ubuntu update
earlier this week.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@mhalsharif: Interesting observation! Just for the record, although I
experience the original issue, I don't think I'm losing anything by
doing lock/unlock. I frequently lock/unlock my desktop and the lock
duration can be anywhere from a few seconds to many hours. I think I
would notice pretty quickly if I had this problem.

Could you clarify if you lose the customized settings only in the lock-
screen (where you type your password) or are your settings lost even
after you successfully get back into your own desktop?

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[M Alsharif]

This bug not only happens when I unplug my Apple magic keyboard, but
also after I unlock the screen when it has been locked for a short
period. Imagine having to restart the Gnome session everytime you unlock
the screen so the customized settings are applied. This a new behaviour
related to the latest updates.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Treviño]

I think this may be related to
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1371 I will look
into this

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@Gunnar: as a "volunteer who tries to help", you have been immensely
helpful!!

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Thanks Weston, that was useful info.

Now let's await input from some desktop engineer. I'm just a volunteer
who tries to help. ;)

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@Gunnar: Confirmed! The mutter downgrade fixes it: `sudo apt install
mutter=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 mutter-common=3.36.1-3ubuntu3
libmutter-6-0=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 gir1.2-mutter-6=3.36.1-3ubuntu3`.

Thanks so much!

This looks like the bug was introduced in mutter between 3.36.1-3ubuntu3
and 3.36.6-1ubuntu0.20.04.2.

I posted this observation in the linked mutter bug as well (in case it
might help them narrow things).

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@Gunnar: I only first recognized the issue last week -- it's possible I
had been affected by the issue for longer, but did not realize it. After
reading the description in the linked mutter bug, it does sound like I'm
very likely affected by the same bug.

Tonight, I'll try the downgrade for the mutter packages as well.

Thanks for working through this with me!

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Thanks for clarifying.

On 2020-10-12 19:58, Weston Hunter wrote:
> I'm wondering if I should be going back to versions which are even
> older?

That wouldn't make much sense considering that you saw the changed
behavior only the past few weeks.

Maybe it's not really a gnome-shell issue. The upstream similar bug,
which Daniel linked to, was moved from gnome-shell to mutter.

So if you want to make a similar attempt with mutter, you would do:

sudo apt install mutter=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 mutter-common=3.36.1-3ubuntu3
libmutter-6-0=3.36.1-3ubuntu3 gir1.2-mutter-6=3.36.1-3ubuntu3

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@Gunnar. Yes, I rebooted after downgrade. After rebooting, I confirmed
(`dpkg -l` and `gnome-shell --version`) that I was using the downgraded
version.

I'm wondering if I should be going back to versions which are even
older? Is it safe to downgrade to even earlier versions of gnome-shell
and gnome-shell-common without messing up other software on my system?

Is there a list of even older downgrade versions you recommend I should
try?

Thanks!

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

@Weston: Just to be sure: Did you reboot after having downgraded?

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

@Gunnar I downgraded to 3.36.1-5ubuntu1 (for gnome-shell and gnome-
shell-common). Downgrading to 3.36.1-5ubuntu1 did not fix the issue for
me (like it fixed things for Detlef).

Even with 3.36.1-5ubuntu1, I still lose my customized keyboard tweaks
(stored in `org.gnome.desktop.input-sources -> xkb-options`). It always
defaults back to whatever is in `/etc/default/keyboard -> XKBOPTIONS`. I
also lose my mouse speed setting.

With 3.36.1-5ubuntu1, after doing Alt-F2 -> "r", my desired settings are
correctly applied.

Are there any other tests I should try since my observations are
different from Detlef?

@Detlef: Do you ever experience the loss of the mouse speed setting
(with either version of gnome-shell)?

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Thanks for testing. That helps us narrow down the cause of the issue.

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => New

** Tags added: regression-update rls-ff-incoming

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Detlef Niemann]

had the same problem with my apple keyboard settings, downgrading solved
it. thanks.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

Maybe related:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1466

** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues #1466
   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1466

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

I set gnome-shell as the affected package for now, since a theory would
be that the changed behavior is related to some upgrade of that package.

@Weston: To find out, can you please downgrade gnome-shell temporarily:

sudo apt install gnome-shell=3.36.1-5ubuntu1 gnome-shell-
common=3.36.1-5ubuntu1

Then reboot and let us know if the issue is still present.

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Daniel van Vugt]

** Tags added: focal

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

** Package changed: ubuntu => gnome-shell (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Weston Hunter]

I did a bit more digging (based on Bernard Stafford's suggestion that
USB keyboard unplug/reconnect) is causing the reconnected keyboard to go
back to the default keyboard config. I was able to get my keyboard
customizations to apply to the reconnected USB keyboard by explicitly
adding them to /etc/default/keyboard:XKBOPTIONS.

When they are set only by Tweak tool (and not in
/etc/default/keyboard:XKBOPTIONS), the options only seem to be defined
in dconf in "org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
['shift:both_capslock', 'ctrl:swap_lalt_lctl_lwin']". These settings
seem to stop working when a USB keyboard is reconnected. This is the
behavior which seems to have changed in the past month or so. (Thanks to
Bernard for suggesting I even look into default keyboard configuration.
This should help some.)

In addition to the keyboard settings not getting applied to the
reconnected USB keyboard, it also appears that the mouse tracking speed
setting (established in Gnome settings) is also lost on USB reconnect.
This is also new behavior (almost certainly related to the reconnect
issue I'm seeing with the USB keyboard).

I don't think it's very ergonomic to need to restart my Gnome session
just to get my expected keyboard and mouse settings established when i
reconnect my input devices back into my laptop.

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[Bug 1899206] Re: Tweaktool Keyboard “Additional Layout Options” not persisting on USB keyboard unplug/reconnect

[Bernard Stafford]

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/693359

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