[Bug 1930995] Re: snapd too heavy for lubuntu
i don't even want auto updates. i've already removed unattended- upgrades. i would hope there's some way to turn them off for snaps too. perhaps stop and disable snapd would do it. but that would of course need to be undone to update chromium. which is why i shouldn't need to disable snapd and snapd ought to exit by itself. in my opinion the removal of unattended-upgrades should by default also avert auto updates by snap. fwiw i checked, and actually snapd does appear to be already installed as part of lubuntu-desktop. when i installed chromium-browser it didn't need to pull in anything else along with it. if i were to remove snapd now, along with it that would take out libsnapd-qt1 plasma-discover- backend-snap chromium-browser libpipewire-0.2-1 squashfs-tools xdg- desktop-portal* xdg-desktop-portal-kde. of those all i want is chromium, tho i only use chromium on rare occasions when firefox doesn't handle something properly. i may yet try to see if removing the lot of them would somehow cripple my system. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1930995 Title: snapd too heavy for lubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1930995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1930995] Re: snapd too heavy for lubuntu
Snapd does not need to be running to run apps. It is really only required to handle auto-updates. Everything else will auto start on socket activation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1930995 Title: snapd too heavy for lubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1930995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1930995] Re: snapd too heavy for lubuntu
snapd could be changed not to be run all the time: the `snap` command could start snapd if it's not running, and this would address the first and third points mentioned by Ian (because when a snap program is run, what is first executed is actually /usr/bin/snap), and it should be possible to handle automatic updates by running some snap command at some defined moments. This would come at a cost, though: the startup times of snap applications could be considerably longer if snapd has to be cold started. It may be that the performance impact of starting snapd is negligible on faster machines, but if the whole point of this operation is to improve support for lubuntu, which is typically run on older machines, then changing the snapd behaviour to start on demand might not be doing a favour to lubuntu users. We might want to sit down and weigh pros and cons, but at first sight the gain seems not to be worth the efforts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1930995 Title: snapd too heavy for lubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1930995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1930995] Re: snapd too heavy for lubuntu
seems like tunnel vision to me, no concern for getting out of the way (exiting) when there's really nothing to be done. chromium isn't even running. if it, or snap, were invoked, that would be a reasonable time to re-launch. if such reasonable analysis is not in the scope of the project, i'd say the project ought not be in the scope of lubuntu. hmm, actually, perhaps it already isn't, perhaps i only got stuck to the tarbaby by installing chromium. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1930995 Title: snapd too heavy for lubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1930995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1930995] Re: snapd too heavy for lubuntu
When you have no snaps installed, snapd will exit itself automatically, but as long as there are snaps installed, snapd needs to be installed in order to do a few things: - setup and manage the confinement of snaps - handle automatic updates to snaps and snapd - respond to any requests made with the `snap` command I'm closing this since redesigning snapd to not be a daemon is not within the scope of the project unfortunately. ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu) Status: New => Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1930995 Title: snapd too heavy for lubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1930995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
