[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Sam, I know this doesn't address your main grief (it is actively being worked on and tracked in a separate place), but for support purposes, the "Help > About Firefox" dialog will show you whether the application is packaged as a snap. Alternatively opening "about:support" will also reveal this information. That's probably a bit easier than asking users to run commands in a terminal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Olivier, I am not sure what is the reasoning here. That you obviously want to land this in a non-LTS version has nothing to do with the fact the base product is not ready and that the change was announced unacceptably late here. The Flutter-based installer is a nice example. You can obviously develop something for years ánd still land it in a non-LTS. Locking out users is not just about "the deb still being available". Some people will have the snap, others the deb, and others both. If they have both I have no idea which one is run when they click the FF icon. The upgrade scenario you mention in comment #7 does not seem to be the real world case either. We just got teleported back in time, where the only way for our helpdesk to know what happens when a user calls the helpdesk, is to open a terminal and run "apt-get" and "ps aux". This is a support hell, especially at scale. Because of a non-critical move to another package format. And so far no guarantees on the LTS either. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Sam, that is the reason why we're doing this in a normal, non-LTS release, which gives us time to identify and iron out problems and regressions like this, while exposing the change to real-world testing. The firefox deb package will remain supported for the duration of the 21.10 release, so this is not locking users or extensions out. Jonathan, native messaging support in strictly-confined browser snaps is being discussed here: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/native-messaging- support-in-strictly-confined-browser-snaps/26849. Constructive feedback and use cases, as well as suggestions, are welcome. Me-too -like comments and rants are not. Thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
To expand on the above, have the Firefox and snapd developers figured out how to incorporate native messaging in a snap-based browser? You guys are locking out a significant portion of useful extensions if not figured out. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Honestly, to announce this one month before release without feature parity, is baffling. As it looks this puts us in a position where we probably have to stop supporting Ubuntu after more than a decade, as the available browsers can't work with our Belgian Identity Card. And this because of a packaging format. It is honestly mind-boggling. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Changed in: ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Impish) Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Impish) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-release-upgrader - 1:21.10.8 --- ubuntu-release-upgrader (1:21.10.8) impish; urgency=medium [ Olivier Tilloy ] * DistUpgrade/deb2snap.json: seed the snaps for firefox (which replaces the deb package) and gnome-3-38-2004. (LP: #1943840) [ Brian Murray ] * DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeFetcherCore.py: when running in non-interactive mode do not show the release notes. (LP: #1944475) * Run pre-build.sh: updating mirrors, demotions, and translations. -- Brian Murray Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:22:12 -0700 ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-settings - 21.10.4 --- ubuntu-settings (21.10.4) impish; urgency=medium [ Olivier Tilloy ] * ubuntu-settings.gsettings-override: - Update the dock's gsetting override to pin the launcher for the firefox snap (LP: #1943840). -- Sebastien Bacher Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:39:23 +0200 ** Changed in: ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Impish) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
ubuntu-meta (1.472) impish; urgency=medium * Refreshed dependencies * Added dmidecode to standard [riscv64] * Added gnome-initial-setup to desktop-minimal-recommends [riscv64], desktop-recommends [riscv64] * Added language-selector-common to desktop, desktop-minimal, desktop- raspi * Added open-vm-tools to server-raspi-recommends [arm64], server- recommends [arm64] * Added ubuntu-report to desktop-minimal-recommends [riscv64], desktop- recommends [riscv64] * Removed firefox from desktop-minimal-recommends [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x], desktop-recommends [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] * Removed language-selector-common from standard * Removed xul-ext-ubufox from desktop-minimal-recommends, desktop- recommends -- Olivier Tilloy Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:09:00 +0200 ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Impish) Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed ** Also affects: ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Proposed update to ubuntu-settings to address the last point in the previous comment (firefox launcher in the dock): https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu- settings/+git/ubuntu-settings/+merge/408924 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Merge proposal linked: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/+git/ubuntu-settings/+merge/408924 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
I opened and closed the stable/ubuntu-21.10 channel for the firefox snap, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSeededSnaps#Channel_availability. I then tested a dist-upgrade with my branch of ubuntu-release-upgrader in a clean and fully up-to-date hirsute VM, and I observed that the firefox snap was being installed and the deb uninstalled, and I also saw that: - the snap-store snap is being upgraded, as expected - firefox-locale-* debs are not being removed, they probably should - the gnome-3-34-1804 snap isn't being removed, despite becoming unnecessary (on a clean system with only the minimally seeded snaps − in practice though it is likely that on an actual system there will be other snaps that require it) - rebooting after the dist upgrade gives a blank login screen, there appears to be something broken there (probably unrelated to this change) - the default firefox launcher in the dock will be removed when the deb is uninstalled, it would be good to replace it with a launcher for the snap -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Merge proposal linked: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/408838 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Proposed update for ubuntu-release-upgrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu- release-upgrader/+merge/408838 Please note that these were not actually tested. This requires thorough testing before actually being considered for upload. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Merge proposal linked: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/408825 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Proposed seed update: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu- seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/408825 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Impish) Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon) ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) Assignee: (unassigned) => Olivier Tilloy (osomon) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
for people not using the official announcement channels, here is a link to the related public announcement (with details on the reasoning and a place for discussion and feedback): https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/feature-freeze-exception-seeding-the- official-firefox-snap-in-ubuntu-desktop/24210 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943840] Re: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap
** Tags added: fr-1722 ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Impish) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943840 Title: [FFe] Update the ubuntu-desktop-minimal seed to use the firefox snap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1943840/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs