[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-07-30 Thread Colin King
Marking this as Won't Fix as there will not be any changes to the
kernel as there is a viable work-around by adding numa=off to the
kernel boot arguments.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-07-29 Thread Colin King
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = In Progress

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-07-28 Thread Colin King
Hi, I am really glad it resolves this long outstanding issue. It was
kind of a hunch; I spotted some discussion on this as follows with
respect to a very similar kernel panic at:
http://faq.aslab.com/index.php?sid=6318lang=enaction=artikelcat=64id=74artlang=en

Quote:

NUMA requires both CPU memory banks to be populated. When only one CPU
memory bank is populated, the NUMA-enabled kernel will panic during
boot.

To fix the problem, disable NUMA by passing the kernel parameter
'numa=off' to the GRUB boot loader. 

If you are want to do a kernel rebuild for your 64 bit kernel, it's
probably a good idea to set:

CONFIG_NUMA=n
CONFIG_X86_64_ACPI_NUMA=n
CONFIG_ACPI_NUMA=n
CONFIG_K8_NUMA=n

in debian/configs/amd64/config

However, just setting the option in the boot line is a sufficient
workaround to stop this problem and re-building your kernel with NUMA
turned is quite a bit of effort to get the same result.

Also, I have not tested with NUMA turned off as a build option, so I
cannot say for 100% sure if building with NUMA disabled will work, and
building a custom kernel does mean it limits what we can do to support
bugs found in a custom kernel in the future.

As this workaround gets the desired result I think we can move this long
outstanding issue as Fixed.

Colin

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-07-27 Thread vastabo
I'm pleased to report that kernel option 'numa=off' has allowed Hardy to
install and boot.  Life is good.  I'd be interested in learning exactly
what happened and which kernel options to enable/disable in, say, a make
menuconfig.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-07-17 Thread Colin King
Vastabo,

It may be worth a shot to try numa=off to see if this helps.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-06-18 Thread vastabo
Tests:

acpi=off -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 
69d8
acpi=ht -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 
69d8
pci=noacpi -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 
69d8
acpi=noirq  -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 
cr2 69d8
pnpacpi=off -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 
cr2 69d8
noapic -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 69d8
nolapic -- FAIL -- PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 
69d8

Fans:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -a /proc/acpi/fan
.  ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -a /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
.  ..

I have attached the lspci, dmiencode, and /proc/acpi directory from the
working Feisty install.

** Attachment added: Diagnostic outputs from Feisty
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15421712/diagnostics.tar

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-06-16 Thread Colin King
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Incomplete

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-06-03 Thread Colin King
Hi Vastabo,

Thanks for you input to this, it's helpful to see the same problem on
identical hardware - if you are willing to help I am sure we can step
through this and corner this one. I think the first steps to try and
figure out what is tripping this exception is to  trying the various
ACPI kernel options as listed in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI

I suggest that the noapic is probably worth considering first, however,
please can you try all the boot options listed in the wiki page to see
if any of these help get past the early exception.

Thanks, Colin.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-05-22 Thread vastabo
I'm also seeing this behavior on another IBM 325.  I'm sorry I don't
have any additional technical information to add, but I seriously doubt
this is a case of hardware failure.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-17 Thread Colin King
It may be worth running the memtest86+ just to make sure this is not a
memory problem - I've seen several reports of this type of early
exception occurring due to bad memory or a subtle hardware problem.

Meanwhile, I am looking into how the CPU produces the exception at the
kernel addresses given in the panic.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-17 Thread Colin King
Hi,

This panic message occurs when virtual address 69db is read in
supervisor mode and the page is not (physically) present (error code 0)
(according to the processor handbook). Why register cr2 has such a low
address is a mystery to me at present and why it occurs so early in the
boot process is perplexing. However, that fact that is reported on two
different hardware platforms makes me less inclined to think it is some
specific hardware problem at present.  Unfortunately, this happens so
early in the boot process (before all the interrupt handlers have been
associated into the appropriate IRQ) and before printk() is OK to start
dumping messages makes this more difficult to corner.

It is still probably worth checking one's memory with memtest86+ just as
a precaution, but I am not sure how much mileage it will give us in
finding the bug.

Colin

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-14 Thread Colin King
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Ubuntu Kernel Team (ubuntu-kernel-team) = Colin King 
(colin-king)
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-08 Thread gsyoungblood
With feisty amd64 installed and working, I added hardy to the apt source
list and did a dist-upgrade.

When that was complete, I verified the old kernel from feisty amd64 was
in grub's menu and rebooted.

As I expected, the kernel for hardy amd64 had the same problem as the
kernel on the CD. I also tried the recovery kernel (on a hunch) and it
also failed.

I have not tried rolling a custom kernel. I will not have physical
access to this server for about 3 weeks. I will try to boot a couple of
other recent distros to see if they have problems if I have time before
leaving.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-06 Thread gsyoungblood
I just tried acpi=off on my IBM 325 and it made no difference.

to recap:
feisty server amd64 booted and installed with no problem and runs fine
gutsy server amd64 would try to boot but eventually would hang during install 
while scanning for drivers
hardy (beta) server amd64 will not boot, gets a panic (with and without 
acpi=off)
opensolaris dev express 1/08 installs no problem
i386 installs no problem

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-03 Thread Colin King
Hi Chiron,

My gut feeling is that this could be a buggy ACPI configuration. When
booting with your Ubuntu LiveCD, I suggest at the initial CD boot screen
after you have selected the appropriate language next press F6  then
cursor back and modifying the end of boot line from:

 initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --

to

 initrd=/casper/initrd.gz acpi=off quiet splash --

and see if this boots up OK.

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RE: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-03 Thread Chiron
I will try this and post the results back tonight.

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/3/2008 10:45 AM
Subject: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on  
IBM eServer 325

Hi Chiron,

My gut feeling is that this could be a buggy ACPI configuration. When
booting with your Ubuntu LiveCD, I suggest at the initial CD boot screen
after you have selected the appropriate language next press F6  then
cursor back and modifying the end of boot line from:

 initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --

to

 initrd=/casper/initrd.gz acpi=off quiet splash --

and see if this boots up OK.

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Status in Source Package linux in Ubuntu: Triaged

Bug description:
When you hit enter at the boot splash screen to either run from LiveCD with 
desktop or to install with server version, kernel panics and fails at the third 
line from stdout. Output is as follows:

PANIC: Early Exception rip 805e5131 error 0 cr2 69d8

I get this message with both Server AMD64 and Desktop AMD64 versions of
Hardy Alpha 5.

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Re: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-01 Thread Chiron
Wait, that didn't sound right. It's keep the hardware and lose software,
or keep software and lose hardware.

Yeah, that sounds better.

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 16:03 +, Chiron wrote:
 The particular two boxes I have been working with were purchased new
 quite a while ago. I just recently purchased one off of ebay though. :)
 I like these boxes, quite quick and powerful for dirt cheap. I want to
 get more, but it seems I'm facing a hard choice. Move away from ubuntu
 and keep powerful, nice enterprise hardware, or keep hardware and move
 back to a BSD or slack. Whether or not 804 ends up being fixed by
 release time will probably be my deciding factor.
 
 
 On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 02:28 +, gsyoungblood wrote:
  I have a similarly equipped IBM 325 (say, did you just get this from
  ebay? :) ) and am seeing the exact same behavior. Gutsy and Hardy (beta)
  AMD64 do not seem to work.
  
  IBM eServer xseries 325 w/2 AMD Opteron 246 CPUs, 2 gb RAM, 120 gb IDE
  HD
  
  Gutsy AMD64 Server fails with mod probe init fail. Adding
  all_generic_ide to boot allowed me to eventually boot and start
  installation. However, the install seemed to stall at scanning IDE
  devices (TR? IDE, I forget exact entry).
  
  Hardy AMD64 Server Beta (downloaded today) fails with:
  Kernel alive
  kernel direct mapping tables up to 1 @ 8000-d000
  PANIC: early exception rip 805e9171 error 0 cr2 69d8
  
  Solaris Express Developer Edition x86_64 boots and seems to install w/no 
  problem.
  Feisty Desktop x86 (32-bit) also booted into LiveCD environment (didn't try 
  install)
 


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Re: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-04-01 Thread Chiron
The particular two boxes I have been working with were purchased new
quite a while ago. I just recently purchased one off of ebay though. :)
I like these boxes, quite quick and powerful for dirt cheap. I want to
get more, but it seems I'm facing a hard choice. Move away from ubuntu
and keep powerful, nice enterprise hardware, or keep hardware and move
back to a BSD or slack. Whether or not 804 ends up being fixed by
release time will probably be my deciding factor.


On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 02:28 +, gsyoungblood wrote:
 I have a similarly equipped IBM 325 (say, did you just get this from
 ebay? :) ) and am seeing the exact same behavior. Gutsy and Hardy (beta)
 AMD64 do not seem to work.
 
 IBM eServer xseries 325 w/2 AMD Opteron 246 CPUs, 2 gb RAM, 120 gb IDE
 HD
 
 Gutsy AMD64 Server fails with mod probe init fail. Adding
 all_generic_ide to boot allowed me to eventually boot and start
 installation. However, the install seemed to stall at scanning IDE
 devices (TR? IDE, I forget exact entry).
 
 Hardy AMD64 Server Beta (downloaded today) fails with:
 Kernel alive
 kernel direct mapping tables up to 1 @ 8000-d000
 PANIC: early exception rip 805e9171 error 0 cr2 69d8
 
 Solaris Express Developer Edition x86_64 boots and seems to install w/no 
 problem.
 Feisty Desktop x86 (32-bit) also booted into LiveCD environment (didn't try 
 install)


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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-29 Thread gsyoungblood
I have a similarly equipped IBM 325 (say, did you just get this from
ebay? :) ) and am seeing the exact same behavior. Gutsy and Hardy (beta)
AMD64 do not seem to work.

IBM eServer xseries 325 w/2 AMD Opteron 246 CPUs, 2 gb RAM, 120 gb IDE
HD

Gutsy AMD64 Server fails with mod probe init fail. Adding
all_generic_ide to boot allowed me to eventually boot and start
installation. However, the install seemed to stall at scanning IDE
devices (TR? IDE, I forget exact entry).

Hardy AMD64 Server Beta (downloaded today) fails with:
Kernel alive
kernel direct mapping tables up to 1 @ 8000-d000
PANIC: early exception rip 805e9171 error 0 cr2 69d8

Solaris Express Developer Edition x86_64 boots and seems to install w/no 
problem.
Feisty Desktop x86 (32-bit) also booted into LiveCD environment (didn't try 
install)

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-29 Thread gsyoungblood
Additional data points:

Gutsy (7.10) i386 Server boots and flies past the device scan that hung during 
the AMD64 scan as reported in previous comment.
Feisty (7.04) AMD64 Server boots and flies past the device scan too.

I'm installing Feisty AMD64 Server right now.

So, something is definitely screwy with AMD64 for both gutsy and hardy
beta. Hope it gets fixed...

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-19 Thread Leann Ogasawara
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Kernel Team (ubuntu-kernel-team)
   Status: Incomplete = Triaged

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-17 Thread Chiron
Please find attached an image of the boot messages. I apologize for the
delay, but had to arrange to take the server down. Also, I get this
exact error message with both alpha-5 and alpha-6 of the amd64 server
disc.

Chiron

** Attachment added: cameraphone picture of monitor with boot error
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Re: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-06 Thread Chiron
Chiron wrote:
 Leann Ogasawara wrote:
   
 Hi Chiron,

 Would it be possible for you to take a digital photo of the kernel panic
 you are seeing and attach it to this bug report?  It will be helpful to
 the kernel team when debugging to see the entire information from the
 kernel panic.  Thanks.

 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Incomplete

   
 
 Sure,
 I'll try to get that taken tonight. Thanks

   
I'm sorry about the delay on this, I didn't have an opportunity to take 
a server down to take a picture. I have a window of a few hours tonight, 
so that will be the first thing I do when I take a couple of servers down.

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-03 Thread Leann Ogasawara
Hi Chiron,

Would it be possible for you to take a digital photo of the kernel panic
you are seeing and attach it to this bug report?  It will be helpful to
the kernel team when debugging to see the entire information from the
kernel panic.  Thanks.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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Re: [Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-03 Thread Chiron
Leann Ogasawara wrote:
 Hi Chiron,

 Would it be possible for you to take a digital photo of the kernel panic
 you are seeing and attach it to this bug report?  It will be helpful to
 the kernel team when debugging to see the entire information from the
 kernel panic.  Thanks.

 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Incomplete

   
Sure,
I'll try to get that taken tonight. Thanks

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-03-01 Thread Dereck Wonnacott
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None = linux

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[Bug 195495] Re: Hardy AMD64 Alpha 5 server and desktop won't boot on IBM eServer 325

2008-02-25 Thread Chiron
Basic server config, Dual Opteron 2xx series CPU's, 2GB ram, cdrom,
120GB hard disk. Feisty loads fine, Gutsy fails in similar manner.

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