Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-12 Thread Christophe Lohr
Hello,

> So one thing is that you verify that you have https://github.com/mate-
> desktop/mate-indicator-applet installed (there should be a deb package)
> and the applet is actually added to the panel.

In fact, the mate-indicator-applet package is not installed on either of 
my two machines. (this should be?)
The notification zone should be provided by something else. (how to know?)


However, I noticed that on the machine which does not show the diodon 
applet, the package  ayatana-indicator-application  is also present 
(relating to some previous use of xfce4?)
Surprisingly, removing this package fix the issue! (and reinstalling it 
cause the issue again)
This package may somehow divert the notification feature. (?)

So: Bingo! There is a workaround to this issue: remove the 
ayatana-indicator-application package.
It's good to know (but this does not provide too many explanations on 
the why ... )

Many thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Christophe

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-11 Thread Oliver Sauder
I am converting this as the issue is not caused by Diodon directly. The
discussion can continue this way to see how to solve the issue or adding
links to upstream support request etc.

** Changed in: diodon
   Status: New => Invalid

** Converted to question:
   https://answers.launchpad.net/diodon/+question/700180

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-11 Thread Oliver Sauder
As far as I know use Skype and Zoom the same technology for the
indicator whereas the sound manger etc. have native implementations. So
it really seems like you have an issue with application indicator or
KStatusNotifierItem which there are called in the QT world.

So one thing is that you verify that you have https://github.com/mate-
desktop/mate-indicator-applet installed (there should be a deb package)
and the applet is actually added to the panel.

For more assistant you best call out the the Mate desktop community
itself as they can give you better feedback.

I am converting this to a question as it is not caused by Diodon
directly.

** Changed in: diodon (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-11 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 11/01/2022 à 07:13, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I have a feeling the issue is most likely not Diodon related but
> indicator related.
>
> So to confirm this do you have another app which uses the libayatana-
> indicator and see whether that shows up?

I may need some guidance. Which app may I test?
I notice that Skype Zoom Slack does not appears in the indicator zone of 
the "bad" mate session (but it does in the "good" mate session)
This tends to confirm that this is an indicator problem.
Here are applets that works well in the indication zone: NetworkManager 
SoundManager IBus Clock
What else?

> Another idea which came to my mind is that you might have a different
> theme on the two different machines and it cannot find the icon in one
> of them. But most likely this is not the case but wanted to throw in
> there to be sure.

The two machines uses the same theme "Menta" of the mate package...
I tested the others proposed themes, without success.

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-10 Thread Oliver Sauder
I have a feeling the issue is most likely not Diodon related but
indicator related.

So to confirm this do you have another app which uses the libayatana-
indicator and see whether that shows up?

Another idea which came to my mind is that you might have a different
theme on the two different machines and it cannot find the icon in one
of them. But most likely this is not the case but wanted to throw in
there to be sure.

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-10 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 07/01/2022 à 18:54, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I have found this https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-
> settings/blob/master/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/30_ubuntu-
> mate.gschema.override#L46
>
> Maybe comparing those settings between the two MATE desktop you have
> might reveal where the problem is.


Files are the sames on the two PCs.
( 
/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.mate.panel.applet.notification-area.gschema.xml 
/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/net.launchpad.Diodon.gschema.xml )

Y also look at values of relating dconf keys... it's the same... :-(
I can't understand. well...

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-07 Thread Oliver Sauder
Diodon uses Ayantana Indicators
https://github.com/AyatanaIndicators/libayatana-appindicator. I've never
had to debug indicators as it always worked so not sure how to go about
this.

This said it seems Mate makes some configuration changes in terms of
indicator. I have found this https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-
settings/blob/master/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/30_ubuntu-
mate.gschema.override#L46

Maybe comparing those settings between the two MATE desktop you have
might reveal where the problem is.

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-07 Thread Christophe Lohr
Hello,
   Is there any way to check if the problem could be with the 
Notification Zone rather than Diodon?

Regards
Christophe

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-05 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 05/01/2022 à 12:42, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I tried to reproduce this on Debian Stable with Mate and the indicator
> appeared without any problem.

To be honest, I have to admit that I have another PC with the same 
versions of debian mate diodon, and on which the applet works well...
There is something mysterious (magic?). It is very disturbing.

> So could you try to run the following:
> 
> dconf write /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins "['indicator']"
> 
> 
> this ensures that the indicator plugin is enabled in your configuration.
> 

Before trying this, I do:
   $ dconf read /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins
   ['indicator']

hum...

Then:
   $ dconf write /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins 
"['indicator']"

Unfortunately, it still doesn't work
(I restarted the session, to be sure)
;-)

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-05 Thread Oliver Sauder
I tried to reproduce this on Debian Stable with Mate and the indicator
appeared without any problem.

So could you try to run the following:

dconf write /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins "['indicator']"


this ensures that the indicator plugin is enabled in your configuration.

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[Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-05 Thread Norbert
** Tags added: focal

** Also affects: diodon (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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