[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-03-03 Thread Colin Watson
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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-03-01 Thread itnas99
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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-02-29 Thread Jonathan Marsaud
"I'm not keen on us having to support Ubiquity both in X ("Try Ubuntu
without any change to your computer" -> click "Install") and in
DirectFB!"

Don't worries ! You do a great job ;)

Thanks to spend time in this "bug".

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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-02-29 Thread Colin Watson
We may include it in the future as a non-default option, yes, though I
think not for 8.04 at this point.

We preferred to offer something much closer to a full desktop
environment for Ubiquity; it makes much more sense on a live CD. Yes,
there are memory problems, but on the other hand it's vaguely similar to
what we're supporting elsewhere and so the maintenance burden is lower.
I'm not keen on us having to support Ubiquity both in X ("Try Ubuntu
without any change to your computer" -> click "Install") and in
DirectFB!

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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-02-27 Thread Jonathan Marsaud
Not related question : Why don't use this method of GTK/DirectFB in DesktopCD ? 
There is a new option entitled "Install Ubuntu" (which is different of Try and 
Install Ubuntu) in the Hardy DesktopCD.
This option load a full system in the memory, but not run GNOME session, just 
Ubiquity. What is the technical problem to use Ubiquity with GTK/DirectFB ?

Sorry to disturb the main subject.

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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-02-27 Thread Jonathan Marsaud
Thanks for your technical answer !

However, is it possible to include it "via" an option , not by default,
like Debian ? In the new F4 menu of Hardy CDs boot ? (Like OEM and
Command Line System) ?

I'm one of the main organisers of release party, in France, and many times we 
are confronted to use the Alternate CD.
Yeah, it's simple to use when you understand : Navigate with the keyboard, 
SPACE for select, Enter for valid your choice.

I'm also active on #ubuntu-fr channels, and we saw many times question like « 
How do I select in Alternate installer ? ».
It's why my purpose of GTK installer (easy to click with a mouse) :)

Sorry to bother you, and thanks to spend time.

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[Bug 196121] Re: debian-installer should use GTK installer (installgui in Debian) in Alternate CD

2008-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
I was substantially involved in the work leading to the GTK installer in
Debian, and even so I do not think it is suitable yet. In my opinion, it
needs substantially more work on customised versions of particular
widgets (notably the partitioner) before it buys anything much other
than reduced reliability due to the extra software involved. We use
GTK/DirectFB nowhere else and it's quite possible that it will fail on
certain hardware where the text-based installer works perfectly; the
installation experience it provides will have to be very significantly
better before it's worth it.

** Changed in: debian-installer (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
   Status: New => Triaged

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