[Bug 1976361] Re: man page “passes the buck” to a dead end for .netrc docs

2022-06-03 Thread Matthias Andree
Athos, just to make sure we do not misunderstand: there has been no word of 
patches from me. 
Any downstream backporting will be "pluck the commits from Git repo and 
integrate them yourselves". I may answer questions, but I will not sort out the 
SRU merge for Ubuntu Linux.

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[Bug 1976361] Re: man page “passes the buck” to a dead end for .netrc docs

2022-06-01 Thread Athos Ribeiro
Thanks for the report, Bill. And thanks for willing to solve this
upstream, Matthias!

Since upstream is aware and will provide the requested docs in a future
release, we can wait for that patch to be ready, then we can pull that
into the development release and consider SRUing it if we can make a
good case for that.

** Changed in: fetchmail (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: fetchmail (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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[Bug 1976361] Re: man page “passes the buck” to a dead end for .netrc docs

2022-05-31 Thread Matthias Andree
Re 1 - Ubuntu's packaging bug. It is the distributor's obligation to
properly integrate packages.

Re 2 - not a bug in fetchmail.

Re 3 - Yes, users can expect as much, but you are right that this is not
really viable because there is no such thing as a standard ftp(1). It is
not part of IEEE 1003.1. Some systems also have a netrc(5), for
instance, Fedora 36's netkit ftp. So: Valid wishlist item.

However, regarding the guessing: you can have the source code, so USTL:
use the source, Luke. Or whoever you are.

Will consider documenting netrc for upstream as I am the upstream
maintainer, but it is not in my interest to get this back into distros.
Package maintainers in Ubuntu and Debian will need to see to that.
https://gitlab.com/fetchmail/fetchmail/-/issues/46

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