[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Is it fixed now? There are two fixes that had been released, but my laptop still doesn't wake up. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Hi, vlowther [2008-03-25 23:15 -]: Yes. The default in pm-utils is to not touch the video card across a hibernate/resume cycle, but you can tell pm-utils to use the quirks passed from HAL. We may as well not break expected behaviour for those who do need to use quirks when hibernating. I applied the same patch to suspend-hybrid and hibernate in bzr head. I'll upload it in the next days, when some other fixes piled up. Thanks, Martin -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Hi vlowther, vlowther [2008-03-24 18:35 -]: The patch applied to the HAL suspend script should also be applied to the HAL hibernate and HAL suspend-hybrid scripts. OK for suspend-hybrid, but for hibernate as well? are you sure? -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Yes. The default in pm-utils is to not touch the video card across a hibernate/resume cycle, but you can tell pm-utils to use the quirks passed from HAL. We may as well not break expected behaviour for those who do need to use quirks when hibernating. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
This bug was fixed in the package pm-utils - 0.99.2-3ubuntu3 --- pm-utils (0.99.2-3ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low * Drop 96-video-quirk-ignoring.patch again. It is incomplete (since we need to do the same on the suspend side) and does not really fit here (if pm-utils gets quirks passed on the command line, they should actually be used). We'll solve this in the hal suspend script instead. (LP: #198808) -- Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:32:06 +0100 ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
The patch applied to the HAL suspend script should also be applied to the HAL hibernate and HAL suspend-hybrid scripts. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Hi Johne, I am not really sure since your problem seems to have come up much earlier, while my wireless has been working since feisty and just broke on the hal update - and could be unbroken by reinstalling an earlier version of hal... -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
... never mind, the second (0.5.11...ubuntu2) update fixed this somehow. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Is it absolutely necessary to implement the sensible defaults in the code of hal/pm-utils or wouldn't it be possible to use fdi files for that? Why not put something in like 25-kernel-quirk-pm-checkdefaults.fdi which 1) matches for the pm-quirks and exits if any (including the .none) quirks are set 2) matches for the ati/nvidia/intel drivers and exits if one of these is used (fglrx manifests as info.linux.driver = fglrx_pci - I don't know about nvidia and intel but wouldn't it be easy to implement setting suitable keys that in a startup-script?) 3) matches system.kernel.version and sets the corresponding sensible defaults In this way, the pm-quirk-behaviour would be completely guided by config files and changing it wouldn't require modifying code? Oh - and picking up an idea I got from awen on Bug #202814: I think it would help diagnosing the suspend/resume process a lot, if the pm- suspend-script contained a line like echo $* ~/pm-suspend.log to log the quirks it was called with. P.S.: Sorry if I made a stupid suggestion, I'm quite new to all this hal-fdi-stuff... -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
This bug was fixed in the package pm-utils - 0.99.2-3ubuntu2 --- pm-utils (0.99.2-3ubuntu2) hardy; urgency=low * Add debian/patches/96-video-quirk-ignoring.patch: Ignore resume video quirks when using the proprietary nvidia or fglrx drivers, or Intel = 915G, since they are not needed on them and actively break resuming. Since this cannot be expressed as FDI rules with current hal, this hack needs to suffice for Hardy. See patch tags for links to further information. (LP: #198808) * Modify Maintainer value to match the DebianMaintainerField specification. -- Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:09:45 +0100 ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
(re comment # 19) If it's crazy debugging features you want, and you are comfortable running bleeding-edge code, I maintain a .deb of the pm-utils development series @ http://fnordovax.org/~victor/PmUtils/ But yes, in an ideal world HAL would handle finding the right quirks and inform pm-utils to use just the ones it determines are needed. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Fixed in hal bzr head, will upload soon. ** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Bernhard Gehl [2008-03-21 12:12 -]: Why not put something in like 25-kernel-quirk-pm-checkdefaults.fdi which 1) matches for the pm-quirks and exits if any (including the .none) quirks are set 2) matches for the ati/nvidia/intel drivers and exits if one of these is used That's the entire problem. Of course we would like to do that, but FDIs don't allow that with the current hal version. So these hacks have to do for Hardy. Oh - and picking up an idea I got from awen on Bug #202814: I think it would help diagnosing the suspend/resume process a lot, if the pm- suspend-script contained a line like echo $* ~/pm-suspend.log to log the quirks it was called with. When I debug them, I usually add somethign like this to the script in question: exec 2/tmp/99video.trace set -x -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
This bug was fixed in the package hal - 0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu1
---
hal (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low
* Update our git snapshot from March 01 to current 0.5.11-RC2, which brings
a few bug fixes.
- Adds properties for tablet PCs (LP: #90451)
- Fixes operation on MacBookPro third generation. (LP: #129869)
* Remove patches applied upstream:
- 02_allow_ufs_ufstype.patch
- 05_fix_dell_brightness.patch
* Adapt patches to new upstream version:
- 96_uinput_device_support.patch
- 96_uinput_device_support.patch
* Merge with Debian unstable; see 0.5.10+git20080301-1ubuntu1 for remaining
Ubuntu changes.
* Replace 88_change_pm_quirk_policy.patch with
01_default_suspend_quirks.patch: Only set the default suspend quirks for
kernel problem workarounds if hal-info does not define any quirks at all
for the hardware. (LP: #198808)
hal (0.5.11~rc2-1) unstable; urgency=low
* New upstream release candidate
* debian/libhal-storage1.{symbols,shlibs}, debian/libhal1.{symbols,shlibs}:
- Updated symbols and shlibs
-- Martin Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:39:03
+0100
** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
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[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
The fix applied in pm-utils is incomplete. You should also ignore quirks while suspending the system if you are going to ignore them when resuming. The following code block also needs to be applied to the 20video file at the beginning of the suspend_video function: ++if [ -d /sys/module/nvidia ] || [ -d /sys/module/fglrx ] || \ ++[ -d /sys/module/i915 ]; then ++return ++fi ++ -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
The fix as published is incomplete. If you are ignoring quirks while resuming, you should ignore them while suspending. ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = In Progress -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
For some reason the fix to hal seems to have broken my wireless lan connection (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) on iwl3945). I could restore it to working condition by reinstalling a (cached) version of 0.5.10 (hal and libhal) a) does this make sense? b) do I have to open a new bug? -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
(re comment #27) That sounds like it should be a new bug. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Hey Bernhard, I've opened up a bug that I am relatively sure is related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/200064 -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
We just discussed this in the desktop team meeting. It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, but we decided to drop this patch for the following reasons: * Upstream FDI rules should be quite good nowadays, other distributions aren't reportedly much worse wrt. suspend/resume than our's. * We have a lot of reports that the patch breaks current hardware (like Dell Latitudes) * upstream FDIs will get better over time, while the old acpi-support behaviour gets more and more obsolete * Maintaining the patch (or rather the consequences) is fighting against upstream and thus producing pointless maintenance overhead and bugs * We can always update FDIs for specific models, even post-release (OTOH we cannot revert this patch after Hardy is released, since that will cause undefined regressions). -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Step (3) needs to be done in pm-utils., since this dynamic driver check cannot be expressed in FDI rules. ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-power-manager = pm-utils Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti) Status: Invalid = In Progress -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
To do (#3) with the current ubuntu pm-utils, you should arrange for the appropriate driver package to drop a file in /etc/pm/config.d. Bug# 180378 has the solution I used to use for my system. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
After a more in-depth discussion we clarified the situation now. The problem is that many of the machines which do not have any FDI rules at all need some of the quirks to circumvent some kernel problems (the quirks mentioned in the affected patch). So, this is what should happen: (1) laptop model has no matching FDI rule - use the default quirks in the current patch (2) laptop model has matching FDI rule - use them as they are, and do not add quirks So the current patch provides (1), but breaks (2). To fix this, I propose that the script checks if any of $HAL_PROP_POWER_MANAGEMENT_QUIRK_* is set, it uses the upstream behaviour, otherwise it enables the kernel related ones mentioned in the patch. In addition, we need another case: (3) the proprietary nvidia and fglrx drivers, and intel = i915 [1] know how to reset the video hardware on resume and must not use any video quirk in /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video. resume_video() should immediately return in those cases. This is particularly important since FDI rules only match hardware models, not device drivers. E. g. the quirks are necessary if you are using the nv driver, but detrimental if you use nvidia. This could be checked with: * nvidia: lsmod | grep -qw nvidia * fglrx: lsmod | grep -qw fglrx * intel: use lspci -n | grep -w 0300: to find the graphics card, and then either * cut out the same line from lspci, search for ([0-9]+)G and compare $1 for = 915, or * cut out the product ID from lspci -n and compare it against = 2592 (the product ID of the 915GM), since they seem to be ordered chronologically The intel one is quite a hack, though, I'd appreciate other suggestions. But it's certainly better than what we have now. [1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commitdiff;h=37bf83ea3a1841ec63d2d9b54b485bb90386ce5b -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
I don't know for sure whether i am also a victim of this bug. However, I always used to be able to do suspend untill now hardy alpha 6. I have a packard bell laptop MZ057. In other word a strange model. pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore this command also didn't work. I tried to suspend with just s2ram (0.8), no luck. I just can't resume. Nothing in the logs either. I do use fglrx, but even without it loaded i cannot suspend and on gutsy i had no problems. What exactly could be going wrong? I think my problem belong in this bug right? I suppose i have laptop model without fdi rule. What can i try/provide? -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
The output of lshal |grep quirk will tell you if hal knows of any quirks that should be applied to your system. Also, the outputs of lsmod and a copy of /var/log/pm-suspend.log (if it exists) would come in handy. You can also try the workaround I used in bug# 180378 (download the 99 -non-free-nvidia file, save it /etc/pm/config.d, and change the first line to grep for fglrx instead of nvidia) Then, once you find a combination of quirks that work (probably the default of no quirks should be used), you can save them in that file. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
What packages? xserver-xorg-video-intel shouldn't be providing a config.d file, since the functionality is in the kernel and not in the driver. The kernel can't provide it, because you can install multiple kernel versions simultaneously and they can't all provide the file. The logical place to put the video driver handling right now is in pm-utils. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
For the record, lsmod | grep -qw nvidia - test -d /sys/module/nvidia -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Another discussion result with Matthew: instead of doing complicated vendor/process ID matching for Intel, it should be sufficient to just test for /sys/module/i915. It it is not yet 100% clear whether this will also do the right thing on i830 and i855 (which also use that module now), waiting for confirmation from Intel. For now we'll upload that to hardy and collect test results. If necessary, we can finetune afterwards for i830 and i855. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
I tried the nvidia thing (with fglrx). No luck either, the lshal | grep quirk returns nothing. The pm-suspend.log only tells about suspending, it doesnt even say anything about starting resuming. It must be maybe a kernel issue. Maybe i should try installing the kernel 2.6.22 from gutsy and see what happens. In the end you suggest that i try every single combination of the nvidia hook? That is like 25 combinations, isnt there anything more specific i can do. ** Attachment added: lsmod output http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12766368/lsmod_markbaas.txt -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
(re: comment no. 14) For the short term, having these quirk workarounds as part of pm-utils is doable. Longer term, though, there are two goals to work towards: 1) Make HAL fdi rules flexible enough to deal with things besides system mfgr/make/model when deciding what quirks to apply. At a minimum it should also be able to consider the current video device(s) and the driver(s), as they are arguable more important than the system model (especially if we start caring about desktops with their easily-replaced video cards). This will probably involve replacing the current key matching scheme with something a but more complex. 2) If piece of software requires special handling to operate correctly across a suspend/resume cycle, it should be responsible for providing the hook, not pm-utils. -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
I'm currently discussing this with Matthew Garret via email. I'm currently trying to understand what's necessary to drop that patch and maintain behaviour compatibility to previous releases. It's quite clear to me that we can't and shouldn't break upstream behaviour eternally. We should rather add the necessary quirks to hal- info (the ones which acpi-support did in earlier releases), since this is a fixed and diminishing target. ** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti) Status: Confirmed = In Progress Target: None = ubuntu-8.04 -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
It's still invalid for g-p-m. The bug is in the hal package. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 198808] Re: [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming
Confirmed while doing development on pm-utils: On my system: lshal |grep quirk - power_management.quirk.vbestate_restore = true (bool) However, pm-suspend is called with the following parameters: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vga-mode3 --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-reset-brightness It should only called with --quirk-vbestate-restore. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- [Hardy] HAL breaks pm-utils quirks and resuming https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198808 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
