[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
Moving this to the pp cycle as no replacement has appeared yet, so we can look at it again in 5-6 months. ** Tags removed: rls-oo-incoming ** Tags added: rls-pp-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
IMHO it would be a worthwhile investment to allocate resources to implement that plan, as it would benefit desktop users for all cases, not just with dbus-broker -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
Copying some extra details from that IRC conversation > until gdm learns to generate one system user per greeter on multi-seat systems, each with their own `systemd --user`, which I think has been the upstream plan for several years -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
@Luca, thanks, that confirms what I've been told before and pointed out during the previous MIR meeting, dbus-run-session has an hard depends on dbus-daemon so the split idea isn't possible About what makes us rely on dbus-run-session is currently gdm (which smcv also mentioned on IRC), basically https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/blob/main/daemon/gdm-session.c#L3195 It does sound like we are blocked for now for that switch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
Errata: I talked with smcv, who explained to me that dbus-run-session is actually a wrapper around dbus-daemon itself, so they are not independent. With user sessions managed by logind, what is the use case for dbus- run-session in production? I am aware it is used for self-contained tests and such things, but using depending on the dbus-daemon package should be fine for that. Anything else? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
@seb128 IIUC comment #17, we do not necessarily need the new Rust implementation, but rather "just" split dbus-run-session out of the "dbus-daemon" binary package. So it can be installed individually and we can demote the (pure) dbus-daemon package to universe and replace it with dbus-broker in main. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
Thank you @seb128. I was asked to get your feedback before completing the Security review. Get well soon! Security team ACK for promoting dbus-broker to main, under the condition that src:dbus' binary packages are split as described by @paelzer in comment #19. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
Sorry for the lack of reply, I've been busy and now I'm out sick probably for a few days, anyway quick notes The plan suggested sounds reasonable but - the dbus-broker patch is still under review upstream and got not real world testing which means it's difficult to have confidence it's working to work without issues - it is adding rust to the package which makes it more difficult to cherrypick/package/MIR - the timeline doesn't feel realistic for the LTS, that's not a trivial change and not something we can land that late in the cycle especially when the archive is still not in working shape due to the time_t transition (which impacts our capacity to tests feature work that landed and get feedback) We could do the package split but I don't see the point of rushing doing that work before the LTS if we don't do the switch, I would prefer for us to work with Debian on those changes and bring them back to Ubuntu next cycle Does it make sense to others? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 2015538] Re: [MIR] dbus-broker
@seb128, could you please review the recent discussion? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2015538 Title: [MIR] dbus-broker To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
