[Bug 2062542] Re: systemd-resolved stub gives SERVFAIL for DNSSEC negative response

2024-05-30 Thread Nick Rosbrook
** Changed in: systemd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => New

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[Bug 2062542] Re: systemd-resolved stub gives SERVFAIL for DNSSEC negative response

2024-05-30 Thread Databay
This problem shows up when postfix uses DANE and DNSSEC to verify TLSA Records. 
This will also affect other services that verify TLS-Services by querying for 
TLSA Records via DNSSEC.
So this is not a postfix-specific use-case.

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[Bug 2062542] Re: systemd-resolved stub gives SERVFAIL for DNSSEC negative response

2024-05-30 Thread Databay
I can confirm this problem also on Ubuntu Jammy, systemd-resolved from
systemd 249.11-0ubuntu3.12.

I had mails queued to cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com:25 in my queues for
hours.

Local stub-resolver failed with SERVFAIL:

prod-mail-01:~$ delv +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
;; resolution failed: SERVFAIL

An internal unbound resolver or Google DNS worked:
delv @10.1.1.4 +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
;; resolution failed: ncache nxrrset
; negative response, fully validated
; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. 900 IN \-TLSA ;-$NXRRSET
; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. RRSIG NSEC ...
; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. NSEC 
\000._25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. A PTR HINFO MX TXT RP  SRV NAPTR 
DNAME SSHFP RRSIG NSEC SVCB HTTPS SPF IXFR AXFR CAA
; messagelabs.com. SOA ns-1714.awsdns-22.co.uk. awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 
7200 900 1209600 86400
; messagelabs.com. RRSIG SOA ...

Mails queued with error:
May 30 09:22:17 vm-ewkf-prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3087917]: 7DE0041E79: 
to=, relay=none, delay=63515, delays=63515/0.03/0.08/0, 
dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (TLSA lookup error for 
cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com:25)
May 30 10:07:17 vm-ewkf-prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3089367]: 8EE4C41DC6: 
to=, relay=none, delay=67515, delays=67515/0.03/0.09/0, 
dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (TLSA lookup error for 
cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com:25)
May 30 10:12:18 vm-ewkf-prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3089603]: 4E46041E69: 
to=, relay=none, delay=67632, delays=67632/0.04/0.09/0, 
dsn=4.7.5, status=deferred (TLSA lookup error for 
cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com:25)

After disabling stub-resolver everything went out:
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3092649]: 7DE0041E79: 
to=, relay=cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com[195.245.231.72]:25, 
delay=70080, delays=70079/0.56/0.23/0.31, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok 
1717060302 qp 31363 server-5.tower-565.messagelabs.com!1717060301!18002!1)
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/qmgr[3092578]: 7DE0041E79: removed
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3092651]: 4E46041E69: 
to=, 
relay=cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com[85.158.142.214]:25, delay=71196, 
delays=71195/0.58/0.31/0.45, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok 1717060302 qp 12390 
server-3.tower-732.messagelabs.com!1717060301!14409!1)
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/smtp[3092650]: 318D441E07: 
to=, 
relay=cluster5.eu.messagelabs.com[85.158.142.210]:25, delay=70351, 
delays=70350/0.57/0.33/0.44, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok 1717060302 qp 7378 
server-5.tower-728.messagelabs.com!1717060301!22678!1)
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/qmgr[3092578]: 4E46041E69: removed
May 30 11:11:42 prod-mail-01 postfix/qmgr[3092578]: 318D441E07: removed

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[Bug 2062542] Re: systemd-resolved stub gives SERVFAIL for DNSSEC negative response

2024-04-20 Thread Marco van Zwetselaar
This is on mantic, systemd-resolved 253.5-1ubuntu6.1

** Tags added: mantic

** Description changed:

- This issue surface when researching the issue that Postfix on my system
+ This issue surfaced when researching the issue that Postfix on my system
  (with DANE enabled) deferred mail deliveries with 100s of this warning
  in the log:
  
- Warning: DANE TLSA lookup problem: Host or domain name not found.
+ Warning: DANE TLSA lookup problem: Host or domain name not found.
  Name service error for name=_25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com
  type=TLSA: Host not found, try again
  
  The DNS resolver on my machine was pointing at the systemd-resolved
  stub:
  
- $ cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver
- nameserver 127.0.0.53
+ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver
+ nameserver 127.0.0.53
  
- $ resolvectl status
- Global
- Protocols: -LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=allow-downgrade/supported
- resolv.conf mode: stub
+ $ resolvectl status
+ Global
+ Protocols: -LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=allow-downgrade/supported
+ resolv.conf mode: stub
  
  Note DNSSEC is enabled (else Postfix couldn't be doing DANE). Now if I
  query the TLSA record for the messagelab server, I get a SERVFAIL from
  the stub resolver:
  
- $ delv +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
- ;; resolution failed: SERVFAIL
+ $ delv +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
+ ;; resolution failed: SERVFAIL
  
  Whereas if I query my upstream DNS or Google DNS, I get a DNSSEC
  validated (negative) response:
  
- $ delv @8.8.8.8 +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
- ;; resolution failed: ncache nxrrset
- ; negative response, fully validated
- ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. 299 IN \-TLSA ;-$NXRRSET
- ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. RRSIG NSEC ...
- ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. NSEC 
\000._25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. A PTR HINFO MX TXT RP  SRV NAPTR 
SSHFP RRSIG NSEC SVCB HTTPS SPF IXFR AXFR CAA
- ; messagelabs.com. SOA ns-1714.awsdns-22.co.uk. 
awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400
- ; messagelabs.com. RRSIG SOA ...
+ $ delv @8.8.8.8 +dnssec _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com TLSA
+ ;; resolution failed: ncache nxrrset
+ ; negative response, fully validated
+ ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. 299 IN \-TLSA ;-$NXRRSET
+ ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. RRSIG NSEC ...
+ ; _25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. NSEC 
\000._25._tcp.cluster5.us.messagelabs.com. A PTR HINFO MX TXT RP  SRV NAPTR 
SSHFP RRSIG NSEC SVCB HTTPS SPF IXFR AXFR CAA
+ ; messagelabs.com. SOA ns-1714.awsdns-22.co.uk. 
awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400
+ ; messagelabs.com. RRSIG SOA ...
  
  I assume Postfix (with smtp_tls_security_level = dane i.e.
  "Opportunistic DANE") deals with the negative response by downgrading to
  "encrypt", whereas the SERVFAIL response makes it refuse to connect
  altogether.
  
  My workaround was to switch from the systemd-resolved stub resolver to
  the upstream servers. In /etc/systemd/resolved.conf set:
  
- DNS=... your upstream servers if not already given through DHCP ...
- DNSStubListener=no
+ DNS=... your upstream servers if not already given through DHCP ...
+ DNSStubListener=no
  
  Then restart the service and restart Postfix if it is chrooted (so the
  new /etc/resolv.conf gets copied into the chroot):
  
- systemctl restart systemd-resolved
- systemctl restart postfix
+ systemctl restart systemd-resolved
+ systemctl restart postfix
  
  I am not sure if this could be considered a Postfix bug as well (it
  could consider a SERVFAIL on a TLSA record the same as a negative), but
  surely it seems to me the systemd-resolved stub resolver should not
  return the SERVFAIL here.
  
  For more background on this bug report, please see
  https://serverfault.com/a/1158198/299950

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[Bug 2062542] Re: systemd-resolved stub gives SERVFAIL for DNSSEC negative response

2024-04-19 Thread Nick Rosbrook
What version of Ubuntu is this?

** Changed in: systemd (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: systemd (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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