[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
I also vote that [options] allow_cancellation = true should be added to /etc/e2fsck.conf in default Ubuntu installations. I've changed the status from Fix Released to Confirmed in order to signal the Ubuntu developers that there are several votes requesting this. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
I consent to that. It is possible to skip fsck when using splash, but is not when not using splash. If that feature is implemented in usplash it seems to be consens in the community that it is necessary. And if that is the case, users not utilizing usplash should not be excluded... -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
[quoting spaceman] basicly: See man e2fsck.conf(5). Create a file /etc/e2fsck.conf, with the contents: [options] allow_cancellation = true Then you should be able to type ^C while it is doing a check, and cancel the fsck. I vote this should be the default [/quote] I second this. Three and a half years later, I am STILL getting the uncancelable fsck on boot. I have work to do. sometimes it HAS to work NOW and there is NO other option. PLEASE can we make this the default? You don't have to change the behavior. just print a message to cancel press ctrl-c. ESPECIALLY on a server, which can be business critical. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
YES! I can cancel now after reading this: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg251597.html basicly: See man e2fsck.conf(5). Create a file /etc/e2fsck.conf, with the contents: [options] allow_cancellation = true Then you should be able to type ^C while it is doing a check, and cancel the fsck. I vote this should be the default -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
The forced check is integrated in the splash screen in Hardy and it is possible to skip it. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
This is welcome news and I appreciate the effort. However, so far I haven't had much luck. Pressing esc to skip causes the boot process to freeze and need a reboot. Of course I haven't seen the option in several days so maybe it's been fixed. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Hmmm it's another bug that needs another report. I haven't looked for it but i think someone must have reported it already. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
** Also affects: sysvinit (Baltix) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
but it would be - indeed - a good idea to implement it. It seems to me that this is an issue for many people. And I think solving this is important for making ubuntu presentable to the broad mass and therefore fixing bug #1. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Try AutoFsck: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck It basically moves this automated 'just in case' check to shutdown and gives you the option not to run it if it's a bad time. There's also a nice simple script (with zenity GUI) on that page which allows you to easily change the interval. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Isn't the forced check already based on time or number of mounts (whichever comes first)? Anyway `tune2fs -i` seems to set the max time between forced mounts. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
A value of 0 for the check interval disables the checks. Something like tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sda should disable checks based on mount counts; then is is a matter of tune2fs -i 1m /dev/sda to check /dev/sda each month. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Regarding the check-on-shut-down: It is an interesting idea, but care should be taken in special cases such as UPS initiated shut-down or low battery laptops - it would be awful to lose power in the middle of a fsck. Another idea would be to have a time-based forced fsck. This should be beneficial to both people that reboot frequently and bump into the forced fsck more often than necessary, and people with impressive uptimes, for whom the 30 mounts could be years without a fsck. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Hi Fist at all i sow about 4-5 bug reported around de fsck on booting stage. My point is why fsck dont care of what i set with tune2fs? This is the way I chose to run or not on booting process. I sow some 1 propose to wait 10s and give you a choise to stop him pressing CTRL-C or CTRL-D my question is why i chose to wont check tune2fs -c 0 if is ignored :). This is my 10 sec wait and CTRL-C or CTRL-D. Remember some running servers and day by day the size of disks grow. To run fdisk on pratition of 10G get 10 min how about on 100G or 1T ? More if u reboot remote that pc who wait 10 sec for pressing a key to interrupt how you can do that. So my point is if some 1 wish to run fsck at boot or before reboot it can be done runing a customized script and put him on proper place (boot or shutdown) but i still remain on this fsck to check the settings made by tune2fs witch is the user choise. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
My laptop just hangs while doing the check, and i can not cancel it, so i have no access to my data. There MUST be a way to cancel fsck, it's absolutely necesary. Is not only a matter of wasting time or batery, if disk check fails the computer is totally unaccessible. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Well, I used the installation CD to run Ubuntu, modified /etc/fstab/ so it won't run again. Anyway, there shoud be a easier way to cancel fsck. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
[cross-posted from bug #3581, which is similar] In my opinion, the best solution is to make fsck run on *shutdown* rather than on boot-up. The rationale behind this is that people usually turn on their computers to do something with it. At those times, people want their computers to boot up as fast as possible. Conversely, people usually do not shut down their computer to do something to it. The exceptions to this are when one is going to replace some hardware, or move a laptop around. Other than that, shutdown speed is not as important. Thus I believe fsck should run on shutdown by default, and there should be an option to change its behavior if the user would prefer that. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Another issues that it doesn't check consistently after 30 mounts. In fact, it varies all over the place. Today, mine ran after 21 mounts and it's a fresh install at that. Is there a reason 30 doesn't mean 30? If it's going to run when it feels like it, we definitely need the ability to postpone it. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
I also would like to be able to either cancel/skip the disk check on boot, or the best option would be to ask users if the disk check can be performed on shutdown, although I know that would require significant changes. Giving users a yes/no choice before performing the disk check is an easy fix, however. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
As far as I can see from the corresponding scripts /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh and /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh a check if the system is running on battery is already done. Also these scripts could be easily modified to give the user something like a 10 second delay to cancel the check, and start it otherwise. Is similar modification was proposed in the German Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dateisystemcheck#Ask The text is German but the script I'm talking about is commented in English. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
The forced fsck is really annoying, and dropping back to text mode and not being able to easily stop the check makes it worse. I like Huygens suggestions and would formulate it as this: Short-term fix: - don't do the check if laptop runs on battery - make it easier to cancel a check - make it possible to tell the system to not run proposed fsck check now but do it on next boot - maybe integrate progress reporting with usplash Long-term solution: do such checks at shutdown. On shutdown, GNOME shutdown dialog could ask the user whether he'd like the system to do some health checks before switching off (I think asking would be nice so users are not surprised, but exact usability details are another topic). The system could then do fsck, maybe even start memcheck86 afterwards (would probably need some heavy magic), and do whatever other low-level checks there are. It would be important that the user can still switch off the machine during the checks without problems. Results of the checks could then be evaluated by the system after next boot, and a tray notification (or whatever) can tell him that the disk has problems, suggesting a solution. Guess this long-term solution needs an own spec :-) Note: the problem about dropping back to text mode for fsck is also described in bugs 38303 and 67453 , and the problem about not being able to cancel is described in bug 65683 . -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
@Jim It seems also at first thought better from my usage point of view to have the scan at shutdown. Because, I usually shut down my computer and go doing other things without looking at it. However, the shutdown phase is also used upon reboot (at least, I do not know if the scripts executed upon shutdown can guess if it is a reboot or shutdown...) And I am not sure then if I prefer to have the scan on shutdown/reboot... But anyway, that's an idea :-) -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Bonager (mentioned above) is great workaround for this bug but a fix that gave users more control would be nice. In fact, we should be allowed to choose to run the scan on boot up or shut down. Most of the time, I'd rather it run on shut down because I'm done and don't care if it runs a check but on boot up, I have to wait. We also need the option to bypass this if on a laptop on battery. Or maybe it should be smart enough to skip running if you are on battery. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
What is the status of this item? Importance is now listed as wishlist, but I think that according to the posts above and the conducted poll on the forum this is an important issue for many of us. Just a small message on how to cancel the current check would make things a lot better, but more work is needed for a definitive solution. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22460 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
There is a program that does what the original author of this bug wanted: I'd much rather that on the 29th boot, you got a message after logging in warning you about this, and also giving you an option to run the check at any point in the current session. The program is called Bonager: The Boot Scan Manager. The only small difference being that it does NOT do the check in the current session because that is not possible. User must restart the computer for a scan to take place. This program is available in the Ubuntu forum. URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295262 -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://launchpad.net/bugs/22460 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
Reopening, as this is not a duplicate of 3851 and has not been resolved. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Confirmed -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://launchpad.net/bugs/22460 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 22460] Re: Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck
A forced disk check every thirty boots is quite bad for users with 750GB drives. The check takes an extremely long time. Users may believe their system to be broken. The check itself is essential, but the current behavior should be easy to discover and easy to modify. -- Should be warned of upcoming forced fsck https://launchpad.net/bugs/22460 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
