Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
On 12/09/2008 09:10 AM, Saša Bodiroža wrote: Hello Lionel, On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:11:45AM -, John Vivirito wrote: On 12/08/2008 09:21 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? We dont use iceweasel we use abrowser. We shouldnt have to fix each of Where did I say that we use iceweasel? the iceweasel packages to support other browsers since at this time it only depends on iceweasel and the packages are not updated but ours are. Right, I understand (this looks like duplicate work though). Then you may want to drop from the archive several iceweasel-* packages that landed in jaunty. We dont merge any mozilla apps from debian and we havee it so they get our packages. it == firegpg? they == debian? Why would Debian get our firegpg package? I see your point, but we (Mozilla team) are currently using scripts provided by mozilla-devscripts package for extensions packaging, in particular xpi.mk and med-xpi-pack, to make the process easier to the packager. The package is not available in Debian, and we are working on the solution to include some part of that package in Debian too. Until that happens, our and Debian's way of extension packaging heavily differs, so it is not possible to reuse their packaging. Also, asac and Volans are working on set of scripts which would automatically check for newer versions of all our extensions and try to auto-update packages. That is why we are maintaining packaging in bzr branches. I'm not sure whether that will be included in Debian. We are doing all of this in order to try to bring more extensions into the archive, and to be able to give regularly updated extensions to the user. So, for now, some of the extensions are merged, those on which we haven't worked on. In case firegpg has relatively newer version in Debian, we could use that package, but I think it will be adapted at some point to make use of scripts in mozilla-devscripts and auto-update scripts. I agree that diverge from Debian's packaging and double work are not good in case they're not needed, but I think it's not the case here. I hope that we will be able to include some of our work in Debian, making the merging process a lot easier, at least with Debian using mozilla-devscripts for extensions. Debians iceweasel-firegpg is at version 0.5.* and our firegpg package is at 0.6.2 IIRC i have it i just can look at it atm. The problem i have with reusing the iceweasel-* extensions is 1 outdated. 2. if we were to use thier packages we would drop the iceweasel name and have to modifiy thier package for deps and such, than upgrade to newest version. Ours has also been tested. instead we need to just use ours to cut the extrs work -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from UnforgivenIII -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
On 12/09/2008 03:32 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:11:45AM -, John Vivirito wrote: On 12/08/2008 09:21 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? We dont use iceweasel we use abrowser. We shouldnt have to fix each of Where did I say that we use iceweasel? the iceweasel packages to support other browsers since at this time it only depends on iceweasel and the packages are not updated but ours are. Right, I understand (this looks like duplicate work though). Then you may want to drop from the archive several iceweasel-* packages that landed in jaunty. We dont merge any mozilla apps from debian and we havee it so they get our packages. it == firegpg? they == debian? Why would Debian get our firegpg package? I have already filied a bug to remove the 4 iceweasel apps from Jaunty archives. bug #306229 is the bug that i filed to remove them. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from UnforgivenIII -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 03:09:03PM -, John Vivirito wrote: Debians iceweasel-firegpg is at version 0.5.* and our firegpg package is at 0.6.2 IIRC i have it i just can look at it atm. The problem i have with reusing the iceweasel-* extensions is 1 outdated. 2. if we were to use thier packages we would drop the iceweasel name and have to modifiy thier package for deps and such, FYI, this is called a merge (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging). And no need to touch the source package name, only the binary one. than upgrade to newest version. Ours has also been tested. instead we need to just use ours to cut the extrs work Iceweasel-firegpg is in unstable and testing since July, thus, it has been tested too. The previous comment from Saša was much more pertinent about the reasoning (especially the auto-update stuff), so you don't have to add random and wrong reasons to it, please. In a prefect world, a common (i.e., Debian and Ubuntu) rename of the package to firegpg (it should work on iceweasel, firefox, and so on, so no need to prepend the name) would really cut the extra work, for *both* sides (look at enigmail for instance). Anyway, we don't live in a perfect world[1], so do as you want. [1] but there is hope: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi- bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489745 -- Lionel Le Folgoc - https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit EEBA 555E 0CDE 92BB 3AF4 4AB3 45A0 357B 5179 5910 -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:11:45AM -, John Vivirito wrote: On 12/08/2008 09:21 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? We dont use iceweasel we use abrowser. We shouldnt have to fix each of Where did I say that we use iceweasel? the iceweasel packages to support other browsers since at this time it only depends on iceweasel and the packages are not updated but ours are. Right, I understand (this looks like duplicate work though). Then you may want to drop from the archive several iceweasel-* packages that landed in jaunty. We dont merge any mozilla apps from debian and we havee it so they get our packages. it == firegpg? they == debian? Why would Debian get our firegpg package? -- Lionel Le Folgoc - https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit EEBA 555E 0CDE 92BB 3AF4 4AB3 45A0 357B 5179 5910 -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
Hello Lionel, On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:11:45AM -, John Vivirito wrote: On 12/08/2008 09:21 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? We dont use iceweasel we use abrowser. We shouldnt have to fix each of Where did I say that we use iceweasel? the iceweasel packages to support other browsers since at this time it only depends on iceweasel and the packages are not updated but ours are. Right, I understand (this looks like duplicate work though). Then you may want to drop from the archive several iceweasel-* packages that landed in jaunty. We dont merge any mozilla apps from debian and we havee it so they get our packages. it == firegpg? they == debian? Why would Debian get our firegpg package? I see your point, but we (Mozilla team) are currently using scripts provided by mozilla-devscripts package for extensions packaging, in particular xpi.mk and med-xpi-pack, to make the process easier to the packager. The package is not available in Debian, and we are working on the solution to include some part of that package in Debian too. Until that happens, our and Debian's way of extension packaging heavily differs, so it is not possible to reuse their packaging. Also, asac and Volans are working on set of scripts which would automatically check for newer versions of all our extensions and try to auto-update packages. That is why we are maintaining packaging in bzr branches. I'm not sure whether that will be included in Debian. We are doing all of this in order to try to bring more extensions into the archive, and to be able to give regularly updated extensions to the user. So, for now, some of the extensions are merged, those on which we haven't worked on. In case firegpg has relatively newer version in Debian, we could use that package, but I think it will be adapted at some point to make use of scripts in mozilla-devscripts and auto-update scripts. I agree that diverge from Debian's packaging and double work are not good in case they're not needed, but I think it's not the case here. I hope that we will be able to include some of our work in Debian, making the merging process a lot easier, at least with Debian using mozilla-devscripts for extensions. -- Best regards, Saša Bodiroža -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed ** Also affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: (unassigned) = Alexander Sack (asac) Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? -- Lionel Le Folgoc - https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit EEBA 555E 0CDE 92BB 3AF4 4AB3 45A0 357B 5179 5910 -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 227945] Re: [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox
On 12/08/2008 09:21 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: Le lundi 08 décembre 2008 à 01:56:01, John Vivirito a écrit : Added Ubuntu task and assigned asac to review and push as needed There is already iceweasel-firegpg in unstable/main and jaunty/universe. Isn't it a better idea to merge it instead of repackaging it from scratch? We dont use iceweasel we use abrowser. We shouldnt have to fix each of the iceweasel packages to support other browsers since at this time it only depends on iceweasel and the packages are not updated but ours are. We dont merge any mozilla apps from debian and we havee it so they get our packages. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from UnforgivenIII -- [needs packaging] Please package FireGPG extension for Firefox https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
