[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2013-04-30 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2011-02-21 Thread Chris Johnston
No activity on this bug in about a year and a half. Unless there is
active work on this bug I'm going to close it again as wont fix.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2011-02-21 Thread leoquant
http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/

Commands Used in this Episode
gpg --decrypt yourTextDoc.txt
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http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
htps:launchpad.net/codeofconduct

please fix the syntax errors as: htps, /gpg -- clearsign/

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-09-21 Thread IKT
!

I'm just listening to the ubuntu uk podcast and I heard the comment in
this part of the website got mentioned!

Just thought I'd like to say the new look is fantastic and have already
linked quite a few people to the new videos :)

Fantastic job! I hope to submit some screencasts in the future :)

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-25 Thread Alan Pope
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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-25 Thread Alan Pope
http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2009/05/25/Ubuntu_Live_Installer_Boot_Screen

It's a start :)

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Re: [Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-25 Thread mdgrech
Can you please unsubscribe me from this thread.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2009/05/25/Ubuntu_Live_Installer_Boot_Screen

 It's a start :)

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-23 Thread Brylie Oxley
OK, I can't find the Ubuntu Request Tracker or the Canonical Request
Tracker. Can you post a link? Anyway I wanted to tack a request onto
the upgrade ticket:

1) Install the Drupal Shell if it's not already installed:
http://drupal.org/project/drush

This tool is simply wonderful :-)

I have an idea for a possible workflow to incorporate videos onto the site 
easily. It would require several modules (Drush makes installation much easier):
First for SPAM:
Akismet, reCaptcha

Second for auto-generation of posts (as seen above):
CCK, Views, FeedAPI,  and Feed Element Mapper

Third, for admin approval and public voting:
Flags, VotingAPI, FiveStar

Here's the idea:
A) Subscribe to the blip.tv RSS feed for the 'ubuntu' and/or 
'ubuntuscreencasts' tags (others if desired). Follow the video to map the 
proper fields from blip.tv to the Drupal node fields. Create a private page 
which lists these items, for users given moderator privelages.

B) Install the Flag plugin and enable a flag similar to import or
accept on views containing videos so that they can be screened to
ensure quality standards and license compatibility. When a moderator
clicks the flag an action is triggered to scan the blip.tv page, snag
the download link, download the video locally and attach it to the node.

C) Publish the node to the public area of the site to allow for
viewing, voting, c

http://drupal.org/project/akismet
http://drupal.org/project/cck
http://drupal.org/project/feedapi
http://drupal.org/project/feedapi_mapper
http://drupal.org/project/fivestar
http://drupal.org/project/flag
http://drupal.org/project/recaptcha
http://drupal.org/project/views
http://drupal.org/project/votingapi

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-23 Thread Alan Pope
OK, I can't find the Ubuntu Request Tracker or the Canonical Request
Tracker. Can you post a link?

https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=7414

user/pass = ubuntu/ubuntu to view only.

 Anyway I wanted to tack a request onto the upgrade ticket:
 1) Install the Drupal Shell if it's not already installed:
 http://drupal.org/project/drush

I'd not heard of it before and will certainly take a look at it, it
looks very interesting. Thank you.

One thing to bear in mind is the Canonical hosted Drupal instance
doesn't give us access to core Drupal files, so that includes updates to
Drupal core, modules, themes and so on. We _have_ to pass requests via
the Canonical IS team, and that includes requesting modules to be
installed, and any other additional components. All code hosted on
Canonical servers must be security reviewed for example.

** Bug watch added: rt.ubuntu.com/ #7414
   https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=7414

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-21 Thread Brylie Oxley
Oh man, check this out:
http://www.drupaltherapy.com/node/34

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Re: [Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Superwillyfoc
I use to record screencast about applications, tutorials and some tips,
always running Ubuntu. I would love to contribute with my videos, but the
main problem is that the sound and comments are always in Spanish. Maybe we
can use subtitles in English...

It would be great! I usuarlly upload my videos to my Vimeo/Youtube personal
channel and also publish some screencasts in the Genbeta.com's Yooutube
channel (I'm a Genbeta editor). Here you can see some:

   -
   http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=guillermo-latorresearch=tag

Regards,
Guillermo

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Brylie Oxley bry...@gnumedia.org
wrote:

 I didn't find registration link on the Drupal container. That might get
 in the way of users directly contributing to the site.

 There aren't instructions on how one can contribute screencasts to the
 Drupal site on the ScreencastTeam wiki page.

 There are already hundreds of Ubuntu screencasts on the web. Why not
 start indexing/linking to some of those? If we can open the door to user
 registration and implement some permissions with a possible moderation
 queue, users might be encouraged to submit to the site rather than using
 Launchpad or the wiki, or irc, c as a proxy.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
I also don't believe there is any major reason for moving away from
Drupal. All the necessary functionality is in Drupal already, including
the RSS feeds which are in use in various places such as Miro.

Emma spent some time creating a fresh new look for the site (also on
Drupal) which you can see here:-

http://screencasts.popey.com/

The reason the sign up / register page is missing is because there was
no need for it to be there. Initially it was there and people could
comment on videos. Most of the comments fell into one of four
categories:-

* Spam (which is less of an issue in newer versions of Drupal)
* 'Thanks for this video'
* Technical support questions which don't belong on a screencast site
* Questions regarding when new videos would be available :S

The main intention of the screencasts site was to create original
content, not just link to existing youtube videos. I wanted to encourage
people to make high quality informative videos for Ubuntu. I didn't want
to have a load of links to external sites and videos for numerous
reasons:-

* We don't control the content so can't control the quality of those submitted 
videos
* Linking to youtube (for example) videos doesn't give the user the ability to 
download the videos using RSS (easily)
* Videos are not downloadable from youtube in a format which Ubuntu can play 
out of the box
* We are unable to put subtitles (and thus translated subtitles) on 3rd party 
youtube video sites.

I thus selected blip.tv simply because they will host and serve up .ogv
files as well as flash and other formats suitable for other platforms.
They can do the RSS feeds well. Before I uploaded anything to blip.tv
the amount of work that I put in to make _one_ screencast available was
tremendous. From the recording and editing to the video encoding and
uploading multiple versions, and page creation. it's a very time
consuming process. Using blip.tv removed the encoding, uploading of
multiple versions and page creation. However it's not perfect, at the
moment it's just a big flash blob. I'm working on that.

Whilst I am not dismissing linking to other videos on the site, I'd
rather it wasn't the main focus. The big issue is getting people to
create high quality screencasts for the team.

I have spent a little time updating some of the screencast pages on the
wiki to tidy them up and have them make more sense. I still have many
more pages to update/revise, and have also been tinkering with the
drupal site behind the scenes.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
Switching back to me as I am already working on it.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
I have removed the flash blob for now, and am putting the site back to
how it looked pre-blob.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Brylie Oxley
Most of the comments fell into one of four categories:-

* Spam (which is less of an issue in newer versions of Drupal)
* 'Thanks for this video'
* Technical support questions which don't belong on a screencast site
* Questions regarding when new videos would be available :S

We shouldn't censor ourselves on account of spambots. What problem is
there with viewers showing appreciation? A technical support disclaimer
can direct people to the forums. If we syndicate publicly created
videos, there would be newly created content on a regular basis.
Syndication would not rule out the production of quality videos, it
would just broaden the content base.

The more we let people participate, the more they will participate.

I didn't want to have a load of links to external sites and videos for
numerous reasons:-

* We don't control the content so can't control the quality of those submitted 
videos
* Linking to youtube (for example) videos doesn't give the user the ability to 
download the videos using RSS (easily)
* Videos are not downloadable from youtube in a format which Ubuntu can play 
out of the box
* We are unable to put subtitles (and thus translated subtitles) on 3rd party 
youtube video sites.

The desire for control might be an underlying issue as to why the
screencasts site has not taken off. The reason that the Ubuntu forums
and wiki are so dang great is that they are egalitarian/community
controlled. I realize that Drupal is a bit tricky to administrate, but
roles can be created for varying levels of access/control right?

I'm not advocating primarily for youtube. I don't much care for youtube.
I had troubles playing youtube videos as well. I am glad that you are
advocating for Archive.org and Blip.tv (and not dismissing other
platforms), as those platforms are doing some great things. However,
lets not limit the community's options based on the lack of specific
features, people are what we need.

The more people we have participating, the less the burden will fall on
one person.

Before I uploaded anything to blip.tv the amount of work that I put in
to make _one_ screencast available was tremendous. From the recording
and editing to the video encoding and uploading multiple versions, and
page creation.

Different workflows will have different time requirements and will produce 
varying quality, right? Here is a screencast of a guy explaining GTKRecord My 
Desktop:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1849528422672935564ei=EyyNSqTBCp6yqgKMkPyACAq=gtk+record+my+desktopclient=firefox-a

I have spent a little time updating some of the screencast pages on the
wiki to tidy them up and have them make more sense. I still have many
more pages to update/revise, and have also been tinkering with the
drupal site behind the scenes.

Thank you very much for your time and effort on this project Alan! This
is an important initiative for community end-user training and knowledge
dissemination. I am glad that we have a dedicated and experienced
webmaster.

Also, great work on the look and feel of the site EmmaJane. Your design
is clean and user-friendly, and brown :-)

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
We shouldn't censor ourselves on account of spambots. 

Sure, but there's a finite amount of time one has for tagging and
deleting spam. The install of drupal on the site is quite old, and has
limited spam protection, so this will be resolved once we migrate to a
newer version.

What problem is there with viewers showing appreciation?

I didn't say there was. I was merely grouping together at a high level
the types of comments left on the site. However as the site doesn't
support OpenID, and doesn't use the same logon as Ubuntu Forums,
launchpad, brainstorm or any other Ubuntu resource I _was_ reluctant to
have a whole new user database just for people to say Thanks. It seems
overkill. Yes we should allow feedback and yes there should be
more/better ways to communicate, and yes I believe people should be able
to leave comments on videos, it's just that the implementation in the
version of Drupal we had at the time wasn't great.

A technical support disclaimer can direct people to the forums.

I agree to some degree. A link under each video saying 'Discuss this in
the forums' which takes you to (for example)
screencasts.ubuntuforums.org would be great. That way people could use
their existing logons, and we can use the existing infrastructure. Would
this mean in addition to or instead of comments on the site though?

If we syndicate publicly created videos, there would be newly created
content on a regular basis. Syndication would not rule out the
production of quality videos, it would just broaden the content base.

There's already a means for people to get publicly syndicated videos via
whatever their favourite video site is, whether it's Miro, google video,
youtube, blip.tv, vimeo or whatever. There's no value-add for us if all
we're doing is pulling in videos from elsewhere. Indeed this feature
already exists and existed before screencasts.ubuntu.com in the form of
www.ubuntuvideos.com which used to pick out videos and syndicate them.
There is no point us just replicating that.

The more we let people participate, the more they will participate.

That I agree with. How we do that, is another matter.

The desire for control might be an underlying issue as to why the
screencasts site has not taken off.

That's a very valid concern.

The reason that the Ubuntu forums and wiki are so dang great is that
they are egalitarian/community controlled. I realize that Drupal is a
bit tricky to administrate, but roles can be created for varying levels
of access/control right?

I dont think the admin of drupal is the main issue. It's creating the
screencasts, encoding them in nice formats and uploading them. I'm the
only one who has ssh access to static.screencasts.ubuntu.com so I had to
upload them there. I am the only admin on the drupal page so I could
create the pages. However if others created videos I did that work. Fact
is not many people created videos.

Yes, it's not optimal to have one person having access like that, and
I'm happy to give other access to the drupal site (once we upgrade it)
and also to request shell access to the backend server, but I can't
action that because that's canonicals domain - it being a canonical
hosted server.

However, lets not limit the community's options based on the lack of
specific features, people are what we need.

Sure, and suggestions for how to get people _making_ videos welcome.

The more people we have participating, the less the burden will fall on
one person.

To some degree yes, but also potentially the quality drops.

Different workflows will have different time requirements and will
produce varying quality, right? Here is a screencast of a guy explaining
GTKRecord My Desktop:

I'm not about to critique someone elses specific work, but there are
issues which occur in _many_ screencasts. The first is that many are
recorded at such a low resolution that it's impossible to read the text
on the screen. Many also are encoded into formats which degrade the
video further. In addition many screencasts are made on the users own
machine which has all kinds of additional stuff enabled which a new and
first time user will be unfamiliar with. The video you posted is a prime
example of that. Loads of 3d effects causing a very distracting and non-
familiar environment to be recorded.

In summary I want to revive the screencasts project, and want to ensure
we maintain quality whilst we bring more people on board.

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Re: [Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Richard Querin
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:



 In summary I want to revive the screencasts project, and want to ensure
 we maintain quality whilst we bring more people on board.



Couple of points:

1. I realize the recording procedure is well thought through, but it is very
rigid. Using xVidcap, recording video and audio separately.. etc, just isn't
how I do screencasts. Perhaps this is part of the reason that contribution
is low. Maybe a lower barrier of entry (yes, you may sacrifice a bit of
quality control) would improve participation.

2. With regards to quality, perhaps these things should be curated in a way.
So I produce a screencast meeting certain requirements (run in a VM with a
stock Ubuntu desktop install, specific full screen resolution etc.). Then
someone (the curator/editor) then takes those screencasts and adds the title
screen and carries out the encoding into different formats.

I realize point 2. will likely not sit well with the whole community, diy
ethos, but this might lower the barrier to entry signficantly as far as
actual screencast contributions go.

Blender for instance could make this last step (adding the title screen and
encoding) quite easy (although cpu-intensive).

Dunno, it's just a thought. I realize how much effort goes into producing
screencasts (It's been a month since my last Inkscape screencast!). Maybe
doing some things to try and lower that bar a bit would help.


RQ

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
To be honest I don't use xvidcap anymore, it's just too unreliable. I
tend to use recordmydesktop. The reason for doing the separate audio and
video was (2 years ago) mostly as a result of a limitation in the
software. In that recordmydesktop would (and still does sometimes) lose
sync between audio and video during the recording.

The procedure on the site was really initially a 'how I do it', not a
'you must do it like this', but I can see how it can be seen that way.

The second point you make was pretty much the way I'd liked it to go.
Personally I have a dual boot system with one environment pretty much
pristine, just for screencasting.

Ideally I'd like to scrap the pages that we have about how-to and
start a fresh. I'd value your input for the way you do your screencasts.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts is the main
page we link to, and is the one that needs a bullet to the head IMO.
Opinions?

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Re: [Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Richard Querin
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 To be honest I don't use xvidcap anymore, it's just too unreliable. I
 tend to use recordmydesktop. The reason for doing the separate audio and
 video was (2 years ago) mostly as a result of a limitation in the
 software. In that recordmydesktop would (and still does sometimes) lose
 sync between audio and video during the recording.


I just bought a Snowflake mic, and I think sync may now be even more of an
issue for me since RMD will not use it properly and I will have to record on
a separate app at the same time as RMD. (Oh lord how long will it be until
the 2.6.31 kernel becomes available - apparently that fixes it ;) ).  But
like you said, even up to now, we've had sync issues, but they are
relatively slight over the course of even a 30min screencast.


 The second point you make was pretty much the way I'd liked it to go.
 Personally I have a dual boot system with one environment pretty much
 pristine, just for screencasting.


Yes, running it in a VM session always seemed like an invitation to
performance issues for me before I got my laptop (my desktop is a 6 yr old
P4 and I'm not sure it handle the recording in a VM that well). Dual booting
I think would be the optimum way.



 Ideally I'd like to scrap the pages that we have about how-to and
 start a fresh. I'd value your input for the way you do your screencasts.


While that seems to be changing lately (with html5, ogg and blender all
coming more and more onto our radar) for us, up to very recently it's been
RecordMyDesktop and a series of mencoder scripts (and for me, a run through
Audacity too). For sure it could be simplified and standardized though. The
software has matured substantially since we started IMO. Right now we are
offering downloadable ogg, streaming ogg (if you're using FF3.5), and
streaming flv as a fallback for other browsers. We're really hoping for more
streaming ogg support since that takes away our need to transcode to flash
(for time reasons along with the freedom aspect).

And while I've still got bugs to work out, I'm hoping to move to Blender for
the post production of my screencasts (editing, transcoding etc.). Right now
I can import the ogv's that RMD generates, edit everything up, but I'm not
entirely happy with the output files.. it needs some tweaking ;)


RQ

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-20 Thread Alan Pope
Ok, I have cleared down all the spam (approximately 1500 spam comments),
and approved all the ham (approx 50) dating back approximately a year.
So that's on average over 100 spam a month and 4 ham per month.

I have requested that drupal on lanthanum (the box running
screencasts.ubuntu.com) is updated via the Ubuntu Request Tracker.
Ticket 7414 if anyone wants to track it.

Next I'll work on sorting the creating screencasts page on the wiki,
whilst updating the demo site made by Emma, and once drupal is updated,
a further request to get the theme updated.

Recording screencasts.. hah, that's way down the list ;)

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread Matthew Nuzum
Someone in the community will have to take ownership of this project if
it will move forward. I don't think it's horrible to have the site still
there as the content is generally as valid now as it was when it was
fresh. Of course new content would be even better.

** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread Brylie Oxley
The screencast website could run on the WordPress platform (GPL).
WordPress has a 'podcast' plugin which makes it easy to set up
multimedia RSS feeds and has a flash media playing interface which
supports the creation/display of playlists. Each screencast can be
tagged/categorized and WordPress also has a search function so that
users can find screencasts specific to their need.

We can also embed applet code in WordPress posts so that we have the
option of using third party hosting/streaming services such as
Archive.org (Theora friendly with automated transcoding), blip.tv
(Theora friendly with transcoding and cross-posting), Vimeo, and/or
YouTube ;-) Basically, any screencast on the web can be posted on the
website, allowing for distributed creation of media assets.

I will gladly install WordPress at the screencasts.ubuntu.org domain so
that this community initiative may continue. All we need is a PHP
enabled webspace and one MySQL database. If screencasts.ubuntu.org
cannot meet these requirements then I will donate one year of hosting on
a shared hosting provider to facilitate this important educational
portal.

** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntu-website
 Assignee: Alan Pope (popey) = Brylie (brylie)

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread EmmaJane
Brylie,

I don't think the container for the screencasts is the problem... I
think it's the time involved in creating screencasts. Do you have any
prepared that could be added to the site? I'd love to help you get them
added if you're ready to do that.

regards,
emma

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread Brylie Oxley
The current site appears to be powered by Drupal, which is very robust
but a bit difficult for a decentralized community to administrate. This
might be partly to blame for the lack of content updates, although
registered members can be given permission to submit content nodes.

WordPress also has user access levels. Contributor status can be the
bestowed upon any active member while Publisher and Editor statuses can
be reserved for members who are more frequently active. It is very easy
for administrators to install plugins, themes, and to update the core
site.

I am not at all proposing that I be the sole administrator. I would
simply like to implement WordPress and step aside as members contribute
content and establish the community access and content structure. I
offer to have this site migrated and functional within 3 days of gaining
administrative access.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread EmmaJane
It is a Drupal site and the videos are hosted on Blip.tv. But I don't
think that Drupal is what's getting in the way of videos being posted. I
think what's getting in the way is that we've NOT had submissions. Not
on LP, not in the comments, not on the mailing list, not in the IRC
channel... There is currently some momentum in the documentation mailing
list and hopefully we will see some new videos generated from that
energy. In the mean time though, I really don't think it's appropriate
to create a new Web site. First we need the content and then we can
change the container if it truly is getting in the way.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-08-19 Thread Brylie Oxley
I didn't find registration link on the Drupal container. That might get
in the way of users directly contributing to the site.

There aren't instructions on how one can contribute screencasts to the
Drupal site on the ScreencastTeam wiki page.

There are already hundreds of Ubuntu screencasts on the web. Why not
start indexing/linking to some of those? If we can open the door to user
registration and implement some permissions with a possible moderation
queue, users might be encouraged to submit to the site rather than using
Launchpad or the wiki, or irc, c as a proxy.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-07-17 Thread IKT
At the moment all the screencasts are in one big flash like media
player, there is a playlist on the right but I can't make out what any
of the titles say, in effect it has a horrible ui, the last update
suggests: By Alan Pope at 2008-11-04 15:58 it hasn't been updated in
over half a year, and the first video is from 2007, I can't tell if any
of the videos are relevant.

I guess I was expecting something more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R_JSiupzo

updated on a more frequent basis, but if the screencast site is just for
the basics, then I think just a better menu would be a lot better.

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-07-12 Thread IKT
It might just be me, but it appears that this project is dead in the
water, is this correct or are there things happening that I just don't
see ?

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2009-07-12 Thread Alan Pope
Thanks for the comment. What would you like to see on the screencasts
site specifically?

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2008-06-07 Thread Pascal De Vuyst
** Also affects: ubuntu-website
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2008-06-07 Thread Alan Pope
Unfortunately it's quite time consuming to make new screencasts, but
it's certainly something that we need to do.

** Changed in: ubuntu-website
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Alan Pope (alanpope)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 237995] Re: part of the website not up-to-date

2008-06-07 Thread Matthew East
** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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