[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
** Changed in: efikamx Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
since 2005??!! nice work it was necessary to be kick out from ubuntu to be solved... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
** Changed in: evolution Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
same with ubuntu 12.10... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
See attachment (with version number); and even worse: Where's the Maximize Button???!? Even in the Menu, Maximize is disabled. What strange bug ist this?!? Other windows have no problem, just evolution ... ** Attachment added: "screenshot-evolution.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/3195349/+files/screenshot-evolution.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Confirmed for netbook with 1024x600 an 12.04. Evolution worked fine in 11.10 for me which makes it quite unpleasant that it's back again :-/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Yep, confimed. Every time I am hoping to see a scrollbar added... Yes, I know default MUA is now Thunderbird (so that you don't have shared calendar working). But TB as even worst problems... try bug#151162 for example (5 years old only). How can we have a real desktop revolution without a sane MUA and shareable calendaring app? Puzzled. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Bug still present in 12.04 LTS. I noticed that maximizing the program window is not possible. Dragging it to the screen's upper corner does not work. Right-clicking on the window title shows "Maximize window" disabled. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
...and TB could be the default, but it has a similar "ages"-old bug about drag and drop attachment (never worked, still not working) and is unable to read MBOX directories --- so it's not (still) a useful substitute for me. This bug has more or less the same age than my daughter. Maybe it'll be fixed when sheĺl buy her college computer, maybe not... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
It still does not fit on an 1024x768 screen on my ThinkPad X60s laptop running Ubuntu 11.10 and Evolution 3.2.2. Still NOT fixed. ** Attachment added: "Screenshot showing Evolution not fitting on screen" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/2872722/+files/Bildschirmfoto%20am%202012-03-14%2023%3A03%3A26.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
@Fabio: I still cannot see the bottom of the configuration windows (accounts, receiving options, etc) y my 1024x600 netbook. The only way to solve this is to add scrollbars to these windows, and not create windows taller then (y_screen_size - whatever header and titlebar size). So no, clearly not fixed. Yes, you can workaround it by alt+click+drag (which I know exists, but I am a Linux user since 1989). I have seen new users stuck on the preference->accounts->edit windows for hours, being the "apply" button off the bottom of the screen. Dave Jone (http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0705.3/2569.html) said one time that there seems to be a competition going on about writing the worst graphical MUA for Linux, and I think that the thing is still going on... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 19:35 +, Fabio Marconi wrote: > Hello > I cannot reproduce this on my system, can we cansider it fixed ? > > --- > Ubuntu Bug Squad volunteer triager > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad > Yeh! Why not? Thunderbirds the default now anyway ;) [My opinion on it not showing properly on a netbook sized screen stands however. Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Hello I cannot reproduce this on my system, can we cansider it fixed ? --- Ubuntu Bug Squad volunteer triager http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
10.04 LTS Is affected, as was 8.04 LTS before it. Telling me to upgrade my users (only 400 of them left on Ubuntu now, directly due to this bug) to a new mail client or OS version 16 months into a "supported" run of 3 years is tantamount to abandoning us. If I'm going to upgrade the company-wide OS I'd rather change to a distro that gets bugs fixed, not provides excuses. Not all your users can run the latest alpha or can change mail clients every 10 minutes. None of my users have sudo rights for a reason. The reason we've had to move our mobile workforce from Ubuntu is that the keyboard-move didn't work on all of our hardware(!) We don't need a workaround, we don't need told to use something else. We need a fix. We're sick of the excuses and "workarounds", quite frankly. I've just had this bug 3 times on this nightshift alone. Six years soon. Is there ANY progress expected AT ALL on this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
>From Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10) onwards Thunderbird is the default mailer. So there is for most people no reason to switch to Evolution anymore. And this should not have been a reason to not get use to Ubuntu since Thunderbird can be installed any time with 2 clicks from the Software- Center. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I also deal with this bug every single day. I am shocked to see that this bug has been out there for over 5 years. I would love to fully switch to Ubuntu and Evolution in my home but there is no way my wife and children could understand how to use it with this bug. It is so bad on my system that when my mouse is over one button or part of the screen and I click the button, another button or part of the screen gets clicked! How hard is it to fix this error? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Advising people to use --express is nonsense because this leaves you with a mail client and without calendar. I just switched to Thunderbird with Lightning. Bug fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/efikamx/+bug/23810/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Well, even if I agree that the bug is long-standing and is annoying,
let's try not to be tragic. I use evolution on a 1024x768 netbook, so
the title ("unusable") is not totally correct --- keep in mind the two
workarounds:
- in the mail configuration window, you can use alt+mouse to move the window
into the visible screen. Not intuitive, nor straightforward, but it works.
- in the main window, choosing not to visualize "task" icons make it possible
to resize it to whichever size, so it's a matter to switch to calendar,
addressbook etc with Ctrl+number.
So I suppose this is not critical --- medium or high, if it is take care
of, is correct.
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[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
As Evolution is [currently] the default mail client in Ubuntu ~& most people using netbooks expect easy access to email... should this bug not be elevated to CRITICAL? Critical not as in security etc. but CRITICAL as in this is affecting the public perception of Ubuntu, Canonical and all of us convincing Windows users to switch to friend called Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
BTW, this is NOT just Evolution that has this problem. Other windows also have this issue as well. Despite being intended for netbooks, Unity pays little attention to the wide variety of screen sizes, in particular short screens. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
and for all those who say you should use evolution --express with a netbook (ok more people in the upstream bug say this) The preferances window for that has the same blinking problem! how hard is it to add a scroll bar to the window? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
This one is nasty. I mean, Evolution is the DEFAULT mail client in ubuntu, and unity is designed for netbooks. so one of the first things a normal user does on a fresh system - configuring the mail client - is going horribly wrong. so +1 for raising the importance to "high". i mean, 5 years, 26 duplicates... ...what else should happen to fix it in the end? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
It doesn't work on my netbook Acer AOD260 10" too on Ubuntu Netbook Edition 11.04. My resolution is 1024x600. The main window's lenght is too large and so the preferences window's height. If there was only a possibility of resizing the main window in the vertical position. I know, that the left and upper menu has big icons, but what about the right upper corner? There is some space which is unused. I can handle the preferences menu with pressing the alt key and dragging the window with mouse. It's a pity, that some things in Ubuntu Netbook Edition 11.04 don't work properly, although it's made for netbooks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
A 5 years-old usability bug affecting 43 (known) people which importance is just "raised to medium" now... Are u serious ? Going as is goes, it will be raised to "should be considered like deserving some kind of fix" ten years from now ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Raising the importance to Medium, because of the quantity of users affected. ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Low => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I'd love to switch to TB, if only it could manage receiving mail in a local directory full of mboxes (feeded by an external, async procmail script). Unfortunately, it seems that evolution is the only MUA able to do this (so sometime I understand why people like Linus still use pine or mutt). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I think Canonical "fixed" this problem in Ubuntu by deciding to move to Thunderbird in 11.10. That's fine by me, I moved to T-bird a while ago, after observing the Evolution developers' response to a number of bugs. They have a peculiar design philosophy which does not permit much flexibility, and it appears that adapting the program to multiple screen sizes falls beyond the boundaries set by this design philosophy. T-bird + Lightning works pretty well on small screens though, particularly with a couple of add-ons. So, my suggested work-around for this bug is to drop Evolution and migrate to Thunderbird. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
1024 x 768 isn't enough. A lot of netbooks and tablets are 1024 x 600. The point is, do NOT design it to work only above a minimum size. It should automatically add scrollbars (or be resizable from any corner) when it's below a certain size so you can still view all content and buttons. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Could you please reconsider this bug's importance being only "medium"? After all, it renders Ubuntu's flagship e-mail and calendar application useless and forces people to stick to 10.04 LTS. IMHO all applications MUST work with 1024x768. This is a common display resolution on older laptops. Cheers Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I suffer the same problem on my dell inspirion1012 since I've installed Ubuntu 11.04. I had no problem while using 10.10. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Facing this problem on a 1366x768 screen on my laptop. Using 11.04 final. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Still not fixed on Natty beta 2 on a 1024 x 600 screen. The calendar screen cannot be made to fit entirely on the screen, making the application unusable on a netbook. I cannot believe this is such a complicated problem that it could not be fixed in 5 years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Simple update to PT language, and the problem is back... Compare Screenshot5 with Screenshot1 and see what I mean. Regards JM ** Attachment added: "Screenshot5.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/2030985/+files/Screenshot5.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Raquel, Thanks, but I know it (as I said: unless you do the meta-mouse movement... which means exactly what you said, with the difference that I have my meta- key mapped to windows key because I use alt- in jed and emacs). iT is cited in various comments, for example #46. And as a workaround I can set up various form of virtual resolution to have a (scaled, ugly) higher resolution on my netbook --- sure. The matter is, this is not at all intuitive. And that there are windows managers that do not allow to move windows partially out of screen, with negative UL coordinates. Resuming: - a window that does not fit in the screen should have a scrollbar, otherwise it is a bug. - the fact that showing or not a set of icons make the windows impossible to resize, it is a bug. Now, there are easy workarounds. So it's not so tragic. Nevertheless, it's a five years old bug, so I think that it should have been fixed. This and the obnoxious https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/594351 are really a pain in the back for an otherwise nice and well done application. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Hi Romano, try this: Use the touchpad to get the hand cursor and push alt at the same time. You will be able to get there. Raquel On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Romano Giannetti wrote: > This is my screenshot on my laptop. As you can see, quite a lot is > unreacheable (unless you do the meta-mouse movement, obviously). > (Screenshot5 attached) > A scrollbar is badly needed. > > > ** Attachment added: "screenshot showing the problem" > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/2002686/+files/Screenshot5.png > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to Genesi > EfikaMX Support Project. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 > > Title: > Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 > > Status in Genesi Efika MX Support: > Confirmed > Status in The Evolution Mail & Calendaring Tool: > Confirmed > Status in “evolution” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > > Bug description: > evolution 2.4.160ubuntu7 > Edition/Préférences -> open, by default, a window dialog bigger than a > 1024x768 > resolution. > > Evolution require a 21" screen ?! ;) > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267787: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267787 > -- http://bbrv.blogspot.com/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
This is my screenshot on my laptop. As you can see, quite a lot is unreacheable (unless you do the meta-mouse movement, obviously). (Screenshot5 attached) A scrollbar is badly needed. ** Attachment added: "screenshot showing the problem" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/2002686/+files/Screenshot5.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
As far as I know, “evolution --express”, doest not run the calendar. Only “evolution”…see Screenshot1.png Now Screenshot4.png: Is this you asked? I can imagine it won’t fit in a 600 screen, but only in 768 (my case) Regards ** Attachment added: "Screenshot4.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1998665/+files/Screenshot4.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Looking at Screenshot3: 1) where is the calendar? and 2) the main window is not a problem, if you do not show the icons. The problem is the mail configuration window, which do not fit in 600 pixel and has not a scrollbar. Show it with edit -> preferences -> mail preferences -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I’m not quite sure if I understand what you mean but, it’s this you want to see? ** Attachment added: "Screenshot3.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1992720/+files/Screenshot3.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Hmmm... again, did the --express mode support calendaring? I was unable to find it, and without it, I am more prone to switch back to mutt or pine :-). Nevertheless, I think this is all a bit overstretched. It would be just - add a scrollbar to the only dialog in all the interface that do not have it - see why simply not visualizing the (mail, calendar, addressbook...) icons solves the resize problem and evolution will work perfectly in whichever resolution. Just my two cents. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Don Rhummy <23...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I see you're not using the unity interface. I wonder if that makes a > difference. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to Genesi > EfikaMX Support Project. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 > > Title: > Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 > You can get to that interface (on Maverick) via the command 'evolution --express'; I believe there are a few different places to modify. One is /usr/share/applications/evolution.desktop; probably need to add --express to each evolution line before the final parameter. Looks like there is also one in /usr/share/une/, and one in /usr/share/app-install/; Of course, an update would probably overwrite them. On the Efika we're working on a new package that adds it so that it will always be run with --express, since we don't run the netbook remix on our machines. -- Steev Klimaszewski Senior Software Engineer, Genesi USA, Inc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I see you're not using the unity interface. I wonder if that makes a difference. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Full size, stays inside the main window. ** Attachment added: "Screenshot2.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1987523/+files/Screenshot2.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
It's re-sizable from all 4 corners. Can only try it in 1024x768 and 600x480 (no good here...) Maybe because this is just a beta (UBU 11.04) all is in English. My first test (UBU 10.10) where I had the problem was in PT language... Take a look at the screen images. Regards JM ** Attachment added: "Screenshot1.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1987522/+files/Screenshot1.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
José Marques - is it re-sizable from the top corner? Does it work in 1024x600? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Works perfect in Ubuntu 11.04 Tested inside VBOX / Laptop 1024x768 It's BETA, so a few other stuff still not 100% -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Using VBOX for testing - Laptop 1024x768 Cannot "shrink it" at all here with ubuntu, but it works fine in kubuntu. Does this help finding a solution? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I don't understand everyone's solutions here. The solution is NOT to set the size to XXX height, but to have the program query for the screen size and then choose a height based on that. My screen (a netbook) is only 600 pixels tall. But there may be others with even smaller screens, or others that are bigger. What should happen is the window should use a Viewport that has scrollbar capabilities. If the components in the viewport are larger than the height of the viewport, it'll shows scrollbars. But the viewport will be no taller than whatever the screensize is. Why isn't it done this way? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Putting in a nudge here as Evolution is incredibly difficult to setup and configure on a netbook. Given the amount of whitespace in the setup and Preferences GUI, this is infuriating. ** Also affects: efikamx Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: efikamx Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: efikamx Importance: Undecided => Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I assume the --express mode is related to http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/evolution-express-for- meego.html">this meego project. which describes the calendar being split off and run as a separate program, perhaps the same in Ubuntu? I'm finding it hard to figure out what the Ubuntu devs have done, the evolution man page doesn't mention --express and does mention a --usage option which doesn't exist so I guess the man page has got out of sync with the program. Seems perfectly reasonable to me to discuss 1024x600 here rather than starting a new thread to discuss the same issue. Perhaps the title should be "Evolution is unusable at less than 1280x1024", but hey! I didn't like the netbook edition, found it flashy, buggy and toy like, I prefer to use the desktop edition even on a netbook. I think it's not surprising that I had that experience given the much smaller user base and therefore less devs and users testing it. "Special" editions are always going to have that issue. A much better idea would be for the standard desktop edition to add --express by default on smaller resolution screens (assuming --express actually worked, which it doesn't, well it helps a bit). I agree a respectful atmosphere is important but I also think that if a user's experience doesn't remotely match that promised by the advertising then they will be justifiably annoyed, respect needs to go both ways. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I agree that all of us should remember that most work here is done by volunteering time. So please all, keep the temple. @Marcel: I do not think that --express solves the problem. I tried it, and the preference dialog still goes out of the screen. Moreover, maybe I am dense, but I can't find a way to switch to calendar view in --express mode. The really strange thing is that most panels in preferences have scrollbars, minus the one that should have it. It is a bit inexplicable to me. On the other hand, for the main screen in low resolutions, I found that the discover by David (comment #48) is a nice solution, even for the calendar. With "show icons" off, the windows are nicely resizable to whichever size. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear this in mind. There also seems to be some confusion about the scope of this bug: This bug (and the corresponding upstream bug) is *not* about using evolution on a netbook with a 1024x600 screen resolution! For those screens, the evolution express mode exists (up to and including ubuntu 10.10), i.e. start evolution with "evolution --express" (done automatically when using Ubuntu Netbook edition) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
P.S, said script for 'Toggle-Zoom' can be found here:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Using -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
WHY HAS NOBODY FIXED THIS YET You cannot use Evolution setup OR Calendar on a net-book with 1024x600 resolution! The calendar wants full screen size not taking in to account minus 22 pixels per panel. The only way around is to use the 'Toggle-Zoom' script that utilises xrandr to effectively set the resolution to 1024x768 and squish it in to the screen, sadly though this is an eye strain and shouldn't be considered a fix, or use auto hide on your panels if you dont find it annoying. just something temporary until the Evolution developers can be bothered to fix their error. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Marvin your solution comes very close for me. On my netbook with 1024x600 (like most netbooks), I'm using 8pt fonts instead of the Ubuntu default, the smaller fonts + your mail-config.ui means that without any panels the settings window fits the screen. In my normal setup where I have a top panel and no bottom panel the settings window gets clipped a bit but the help and close buttons are now fully visible, see attached. ** Attachment added: "Evolution prefs dialogue with mod from comment 50" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1917213/+files/evolution-prefs-after-mod-from-comment-50.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I just checked the height of my modified window. It's 740 pixel. Assuming the default height of 24 pixels for the top and bottom gnome- panels that makes: 740 + 2*24 = 784. So unfortunately still 16 pixels too much to fit on a screen with height of 768 pixels :( But please give me feedback on my proposed solution and I can continue reducing the size of the preferences window. Note 1: In the evolution code I could nowhere find the code/glade-file for the generation of the "When mail arrives" part in the "General" tab. I found code for linking this UI-element to application parameters, but not the GUI-generation itself. Is there a separate "Notification" plugin that does this? Anyway one drawback of my solution would then be that when the notification plugin is not installed, the "General" tab would only contain the "Delete" part. Note 2: My modified plugin adds one new label to the GUI with the text "Display". So this word also needs to be translated. However I think no work has to be done on this since all PO files already contain the msgid "Display". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Okay here is a simple modification that makes the preferences window smaller. You can even try it without having to recompile evolution. What I did is the following: In the "Mail Preferences" part I added a new tab named "Display" from the "General" tab I then moved the "Message Fonts" part and "Message Display" part to the new "Display" tab. Just replace /usr/share/evolution/2.30/ui/mail-config.ui by the file I attached to this post to check it out. ** Attachment added: "Modification of the preferences GUI" https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1915177/+files/mail-config.ui -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Here's the screen grab showing the main window with switcher off and plenty of room to spare. Just my personal opinion but it seems ludicrous to make this program the default on the netbook edition and to prominently promote it in the Ubuntu advertising alongside language like "an innovative user interface super-optimised for smaller screens". Email is one of the first things people are going to try out and they may well be left with the (arguable accurate) impression that open source advertising lies just as convincingly as any big multinational. ** Attachment added: "Screen grab showing main window without switcher" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1914609/+files/evolution-without-switcher.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Another workaround to add to the suggestions above, this one is for the main window, if you turn off the "switcher" by going to View->Switcher Appearance->Show Buttons then the main window becomes sensibly resizable. I have no idea why turning off five small icons makes such a big difference to the resize behaviour but at least for me it does. With the switcher off, you can still move between the mail/calendar/etc views by using the ctrl+number shortcuts. I can only attached one file at a time so this message has attached a screen grab showing the main window with the switcher turned on and sized as small as possible, the top of the window is cut off because it doesn't fit the screen even with the panels hidden. Will follow up with a screen grab showing the switcher turned off. ** Attachment added: "Screen grab of default problematic main window." https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1914549/+files/evolution-with-switcher.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
This bug has also been reported on GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 267787. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267787 Bug 267787 was opened on 7th October 2004. Still no solution, or sign of one likely to happen in the near future. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Hello Well, the workaround is easy, but if i'm a normal user not necessarily i've to know that i've to press Alt + mouse to move a window over the desktop limit, so i cannot configure evolution because the forward button is below the lower desktop limit. I think that this is a serious usability bug, in particular with netbook screen. Thanks Fabio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
** Tags added: natty usability ** Tags added: running-unity ** Tags removed: intrepid jaunty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I also would like to make a suggestion that could serve as a nice fix until the Evolution developers come up with a solution. This fix would require only adding a few lines of code: Go to the piece of code that creates the preferences window. Now add there code that creates a GtkScrolledWindow and GtkViewport and makes the GtkViewport the child of the GtkScrolledWindow. Now in the code there must be a line where a widget is made the child of the preferences window. Modify this line such that instead of making the window the parent of the widget, we make the GtkViewport the widget's parent. Finally you have to make the GtkScrolledWindow the child of the preferences window. As a result we will have a preferences window that can be resized to fit the screen: in the case where the window wouldn't fit before, the user can now use scrollbars. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Leo I understand your arguments that Ubuntu does not maintain Evolution but distributes it. However Evolution is the default mail client (including calendar manager/address book/etc.) of Ubuntu. Since such kind of application is used a lot it has a higher responsibility for the user experience. Other applications that carry higher responsibility are for example the web browser or file manager. I assume these applications are selected to be the default, because they match the Ubuntu philosophy. So when there is something in such an application that is in conflict with that philosophy, then it deserves more attention. You could say that fixing this bug is not the responsibility of the Ubuntu project, but then I think you forgot that Ubuntu is Open Source. Since Evolution is such an important application within the distribution, I think the Ubuntu project should collaborate with the Evolution project. So the person who is assigned to this bug should communicate with the Evolution developers to solve it. I assume there has been some communication, but apparently good not enough, otherwise the bug report would not still be open AFTER MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Screenshot showing Evolution 2.30.3 Preferences Window Not Fitting Screen on 1366x768 screen ** Attachment added: "evolution_preferences_issue.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1881560/+files/evolution_preferences_issue.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
HI, same here with netbook 1024*600 (workaround possible with "newres" script using "xrandr") :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
same problem on 1366x768! starting evolution in a terminal shows the following message: "(evolution:27609): e-utils-WARNING **: Something called e_alert_dialog_constructed() with a NULL parent window. This is no longer legal, please fix it. EI: MAIL PREFS" I don't know if this message is of any interest for this bug... the only way to "fix" the problem at the moment is to drag the window with alt+mouse until the "close" button becomes visible. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
This is low priority from the point of view of Ububtu, which distributes Linux+GNU+a bunch o free software all together. I understand it has low priority as it is not affecting other applications nor blocking the use of the computer. I agree it should be very very high priority for those who really write and maintain it, not for those who distribute it. Imagine you are distributing a pack of applications. You can't give high priority to the bugs that already came with them, there are bugs introduced by yourself when packing things and blocking bugs to look first. Complaining about this being the default mail client is something else, I guess many will agree with you. Fortunately you are not forced to stick to Evolution, Empathy, etc, to actually use Gnome. There are far better replacements out there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I don't understand either why the priority of this bug is that low. Is it because the bug does not cause any crash or unexpected behaviour? Is that the policy or what else is the reason? I think this is A BUG IN USABILITY, that affects many users. There are still many people with a vertical resolution <= 768 pixels (also new laptop with wide screens). I know how to move a window without having to drag it via its title bar, but many people don't and it isn't very obvious how to do this. And even if many people knew how to do it, then still this is a bug. This is simply poor user interface design. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 Title: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Having this problem too. Come on, five god damned years, a crippling issue, people are having major problems with it, and it's still low priority to fix? This is a major usability flaw that makes the program impossible to use, fix it. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
This is getting worst. I am on a netbook, 1024x600, and now even mail is difficult to read. If I switch from the main view to the calendar view, the main windows grows in vertical, and after that I can't reduce it back to fit in the 600-panel height of the screen. Not even to the full 600 pixels. Please... "Low" priority? -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Still a problem on my 1024*768 Panasonic CF-W5. I managed to use the preference pane somehow, but now when I maximize the application window, a little space get cut off at the left side (see attached screenshot), because it seems to align itself to the right. Now when I try to click something, it tries to align itself to the left again before registering my click, and in most cases then the click is not where I wanted it to be. Evolution is the standart email and pim application, and still this is a major usability inconvenience, to say the least... ** Attachment added: "Screenshot misaligned maximized window" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1740294/+files/Bildschirmfoto.png -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
I have the same issue on the main screen. I am using a Dell laptop (old) with a maximum resolution of 1024*768. THe main windows is larger than the screen, making the window moving right and left when trying to point on a tab. THis bug appeared with the maverick update. THis is very annoying. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Sorry but ubuntu netbook edition is with this big mistake not a option. You can use other Disp. Why they bring out a ubuntu netbook edition with this mistake that the resolution of a system intregation programm is to big, sorry but thats not a Netbook edition :-) Meego, Joilcloud, ect other options. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Why hasn't this been fixed yet? Major usability issue on netbooks FOR FIVE YEARS?! -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
In my case, on 1024*768 screen resolution, the preferences window is too high, so I cannot see the button at the bottom. Since the preferences window cannot be resized, I can only press tab until I think it is selected and press enter... not at all a good user experience. Just to be clear - is this bug about the preferences window, as the original bug description suggests (although the title is very general and may improve from being changed to being more specific)? -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
The preoblem seems to remain in maverik using the calendar section: it's impossible to use it on a small (netbook) screen (i use evolution maximized without borders, statusbar and with a gnome panel of 19 px, and this is not enought). I think this issue should be fixed: it's useless to develop a new super- interface for netbooks when the main application for PIM is too big for the screen. Maybe allow people to remove some stuff from evolution interface, like sidebars and others. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
On Ubuntu Maverick it is again the problem that Evolution is wider than the screen and hops with every click from left to right. Interesting though, with Gnome-Shell it works just fine. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
You open Evolution (on the Netbook Edition) and the Window is to big in the width not in the height. To change it you can only change the height not the width. The interessting part is in the programm window self you can change only the height. I mean with this the fragmentation in Evolution self. -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
Same problem. Preferences dialog out of screen 1024x768. Screenshot. ** Attachment added: "evolution-outscreen.jpg" https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/23810/+attachment/1683595/+files/evolution-outscreen.jpg -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 23810] Re: Evolution is unusable in 1024x768
now in Maverick the evolution preferences window in version 2.30.3 has a minimum size of around 690x780, thus quite a bit taller than a 768 high window with panels top and bottom. The reason seems to be the amount of content on the mail preferences-general tab. This pushes the size of the parent window out to the large size. This needs a scrollbox around it, I think the place to add this is around line 530 of widgets/misc/e -preferences-window.c ** Summary changed: - Evolution is unusable in 800x600 + Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 -- Evolution is unusable in 1024x768 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/23810 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
