[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
So should someone post a new bug report for Jaunty? Or are the developers already aware? -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
the current version only works for logout indeed ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released => Triaged -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
Should this work in Jaunty Beta? I'm asking because it does not properly: * There is NO prompt for saving open documents at restart/shutdown. * On logout, it miraculously works, at least with Gedit and OpenOffice - If someone here knows what the state /should/ be in Jaunty Beta, please post here, thanks! -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
It's not a matter of adding such and such a feature. It's a matter of breaking something that already worked fine. They didn't need to include the latest broken version of Gnome in Ubuntu, and they didn't need to release Ubuntu on a specific date with known bugs and regressions, but they did anyway. (We're all clogging inboxes while saying that we shouldn't. Where *specifically* should this discussion take place instead of here?) -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
I don't want to clog up everyone's mailbox further but before you comment saying people are incompetent or that it is so easy to add such and such a feature, please try to make those changes yourself. Not only would you be doing the community a great service if you are successful, but you will also learn that these things are not as easy as they look and take a great deal of time to implement and then test. We should all be thankful that folks are donating their valuable time to work on this bug. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
Well said, Qoquaq. A bug report isn't really the place for this, but I thought I'd add something to that comment. Criticism is fine, as long as it's constructive criticism. Most people are happy to receive constructive criticism. In fact, I believe that Ubuntu has a places for it. There's brainstorm.ubuntu.com and a qa.ubuntu.com. So, rather than re-iterating that this is a horrible bug and Ubuntu sucks because of it, go over there and offer ideas about how to stop stuff like this happening in the future. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
those who provide only negative comments, please provide a better sense of community than this. lets join together to provide solutions rather than rail against those who are working very hard to provide an environment which we love to use. gnome is a great desktop. ubuntu is a great distribution. i am very happy with both. rather than saying those in the release process are wrong, provide data to allow this to be fixed. negativity and mud-slinging is not beneficial and only makes those who are working very hard providing software and solutions upset. *all* software will have bugs and defects. lets work to remove them rather than being harsh against the development community. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:16:04PM -, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Could preople stop this rant there, that's not constructive, the choice > taken for intrepid was wrong but everybody does mistake and now is time > to get things fixed rather than blaming the distro team or GNOME again > and again for the error > > I've just uploaded a patched version to jaunty which restore session > storing, it's late in the cycle for GNOME (but should not be an easy for > jaunty), some applications are know to be buggy but session storing > should basically work and it should prompt again for not saved work in > gedit for example and don't display a firefox incorrect closing prompt > on next opening > > comments on the new jaunty version are appreciated 2.25.92-0ubuntu2 gnome-session 2.25.91-0ubuntu2 gnome-terminal gnome-terminal still doesn't remember that I have multiple open when I logout. Time to dust off the bug I put in that gnome-terminal and nautilus still can't be arsed to speak the new protocol. I'm not thrilled with the prompting on gedit, but my specific complaint looks more like a gedit bug. But as long as gnome-terminal doesn't start prompting or nvi doesn't start prompting, I don't care... -- Chris Dukes "In cynicism she's about 35" -- Terry Pratchett's "Hog Father" -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
Could preople stop this rant there, that's not constructive, the choice taken for intrepid was wrong but everybody does mistake and now is time to get things fixed rather than blaming the distro team or GNOME again and again for the error I've just uploaded a patched version to jaunty which restore session storing, it's late in the cycle for GNOME (but should not be an easy for jaunty), some applications are know to be buggy but session storing should basically work and it should prompt again for not saved work in gedit for example and don't display a firefox incorrect closing prompt on next opening comments on the new jaunty version are appreciated -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
This is not the right place for a GNOME vs. KDE debate. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
this regression in the last non-LTS is a bit uncomfortable, expecially after years of Ubuntu and Gnome well working version, but Linux with this little bug is anyway far better than Windows (considering all other aspects). KDE 4 has similar other little bugs respect to previous 3.5, so friends that use Kubuntu 8.10, are not so happy like us. Use a LTS, or install a Debian, really similar to Ubuntu (that is Debian based), but there you got only ultra stable software, at a price of infrequent release. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
This bug is a serious regression and it's the reason I moved to KDE. KDE's not perfect but at least basic things like this work. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
[Cue someone ranting about how bug report comments aren't the place for rants.] But really, where do we complain about this? How do we get 'the people in charge' to actually listen and rethink their priorities for releases? It seems that each Ubuntu release is a downgrade from the last. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
This kind of utter bullshit is exactly why linux is a marginal player in the desktop, and becoming even moreso (according to browser market share, at least). If a major feature is broken in an upstream package, how about this for a suggestion: keep the last version that worked, or write a patch to remove the feature temporarily. Don't get so version happy that you're willing to package a broken GNOME that advertises a feature that doesn't work. It only backfires, because it alienates the living crap out of users, and gives Ubuntu the appearance of a bush league operating system. Just throwing your hands up and saying "this is an upstream problem endemic to open source" is chicken sh*t. If that's true, then you're basically saying open source is incapable of providing a quality operating system, because there is always going to be stuff breaking upstream in an actively developed project. On the other hand, if the attitude is simply that it's ok for interim releases to suck, I'd strongly suggest Ubuntu "management" rethink that strategy. If somebody new to linux downloads "the latest" Ubuntu, they just get the one with the biggest version number. They don't know about LTS or what that really means. If that version is broken, they go back to Windows or the Mac, and it's another person who thinks Linux is a joke. This whole experiment in open source isn't going to work if users are treated with such contempt that it's considered acceptable to release an OS where a major feature is just plain broken. Really, gentlemen, how hard would it have been to just patch GNOME to remove the "Options" tab in Sessions Preferences? -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
intrepid is not a lts version, jaunty is due next month and will be much better quality than intrepid, it would take weeks to stabilize, backport and valide those backport and will not realistically be a high priority for intrepid -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
Well, maybe not gnome-session in it's entirety. But given how big a regression this was for Gnome, I'd hope that the individual changes that correct this upstream can be pulled into intrepid. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
Core things such as GNOME session won't and shouldn't ever be backported. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
> this version hasn't been backported to intrepid, has it? the new version just landed to jaunty still need testing and debugging so no it has not been backport to anything yet -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
this version hasn't been backported to intrepid, has it? -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
The upstream bug is still "confirmed" and reading it seems that there are still many unresolved problems. So the status of this bug is "In Progress" at most. But as evidenced in gnome bug, some of the regressions are from the apps which have inadvertently removed XSMP support rather than the new gnome- session not working correctly. -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:50:06PM -, Launchpad Bug Tracker wrote: > This bug was fixed in the package gnome-session - 2.25.92-0ubuntu1 And whoever claimed this didn't do squat for regression testing. sequence login. system->preferences->startup programs->options-> check automatically remember running applications when logging out click remember currently running application. Start a gnome-terminal logout log in again. gnome-terminal starts Okay, good. ctrl-shift-n within the new gnome-terminal to open a second one. logout log in again only one gnome-terminal open. For giggles, places->desktop logout log in again only one gnome-terminal open. So, we're back to the other bug I just recently opened. "The developers of gnome-terminal and nautilus can't be arsed to eat the new gnome session management dogfood." > > --- > gnome-session (2.25.92-0ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low > > * New upstream version (LP: #337386): > - Re-introduce support for session saving (LP: #249373). > - Ensure treeview is included in a scrolled window with a > shadow in the inhibit dialog. > - Use system-log-out icon instead of deprecated gnome-logout. > - Fix logout dialogs not being themed (LP: #320921). > * 80_new_upstream_session_dialog.patch: > - Updated so that it applies again. > * 98_autotools.patch: > - Recreate for new upstream version. > > -- Chris CoulsonTue, 03 Mar 2009 > 18:53:58 + > > ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) >Status: Triaged => Fix Released > > -- > gnome-session storing broken in intrepid > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in The GNOME 2 Session Manager: Confirmed > Status in “gnome-session” source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released > Status in “gnome-session” source package in Fedora: In Progress > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: gnome-session > > The latest gnome-session in Ubuntu/intrepid does not restore saved session at > all. It does not start window manager (I'm not using craps like compiz or > metacity, I'm using openbox, but /usr/bin/gnome-wm correctly starts the > openbox). > > I have gnome-session: 2.23.4.1-0ubuntu1 > > I did gnome-session-save before quiting the session but nothing is restored. > Moreover, I use save session on exit option. -- Chris Dukes "In cynicism she's about 35" -- Terry Pratchett's "Hog Father" -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
** Changed in: gnome-session (Fedora) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-session - 2.25.92-0ubuntu1 --- gnome-session (2.25.92-0ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low * New upstream version (LP: #337386): - Re-introduce support for session saving (LP: #249373). - Ensure treeview is included in a scrolled window with a shadow in the inhibit dialog. - Use system-log-out icon instead of deprecated gnome-logout. - Fix logout dialogs not being themed (LP: #320921). * 80_new_upstream_session_dialog.patch: - Updated so that it applies again. * 98_autotools.patch: - Recreate for new upstream version. -- Chris CoulsonTue, 03 Mar 2009 18:53:58 + ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 249373] Re: gnome-session storing broken in intrepid
** Changed in: gnome-session (Fedora) Status: Invalid => In Progress -- gnome-session storing broken in intrepid https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
