[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Chris Coulson]

Peteris - Please see Sebastien's comment above:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-
session/+bug/251211/comments/9

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[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Peteris Krisjanis]

As user I would suggest to take out button right top corner. All
available options are under "System" and user switching is done using
user applet. Seems to make sense for me.

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[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Scott James Remnant]

** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Invalid => Won't Fix

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[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

There is no sensible way to convey that there are half a dozen different
variations on quitting an Ubuntu session, because that's not a sensible
situation. Our current long-term plan for solving this is described in
.

Until that is implemented, I would have preferred not to have any
changes to the Quit dialog used from Dapper to Hardy, because people
would then need to relearn the interface twice (once now, once then)
rather than once. However, for technical reasons using that same Quit
dialog in Intrepid would require reimplementing it, which we don't have
the resources for.

That leaves us with two unpleasant choices: the two dialogs currently
used in Intrepid, or a single dialog combining all the options. I don't
think it particularly matters either way, but staying with the two
dialogs requires less work, and lets us use the time we'd spend merging
them on fixing other problems.

** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Triaged => Invalid

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[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

Summary of that discussion:


My resulting bug reports: bug 269478, bug 269500, bug 269502, bug
269504, and .

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[Bug 251211] Re: intrepid session dialog experience

[Scott James Remnant]

** Summary changed:

- intrepid uses the upstream session dialog
+ intrepid session dialog experience

** Description changed:

- Binary package hint: gnome-session
+ Intrepid has a new set of session dialogs, Log Out and Shut Down (with
+ Lock Screen as a separate menu item) that replace the previous Quit
+ dialog.  These come from SuSE patches that are expected to be eventually
+ upstream.
  
- The new gnome-session is mostly a rewrital which means the ubuntu
- session changes need to be rewritten if we still want to use the same
- dialog. Upstream plans to merge the opensuse dialog meanwhile so we
- might want to consider using this one as an option
+ Log Out has:
+   Log Out
+   Switch User
+ 
+ Shut Down has:
+   Shut Down
+   Restart
+   Suspend
+   Hibernate
+ 
+ We also will now have Ted's fast-user-switch-applet in the top right by
+ default, providing quick access to the Switch User functionality as well
+ as the other options here.
+ 
+ There is a remaining decision:
+ 
+ Are two dialogs better than one?  In previous Ubuntu releases, we only
+ ever had one "Quit" dialog that contained all of the available options.
+ This now gives us two, and for the first time (in Ubuntu) attempts to
+ establish a difference between "Log Out" and "Shut Down".
+ 
+ Switching between Users is very arguably completely covered by the new
+ applet, and Lock Screen is happy as its own menu item (it never fitted
+ in the list otherwise).
+ 
+ Thus should we merge the two dialogs back into one Quit dialog, that
+ would simply add the Log Out option?
+ 
+   Quit:
+ Log Out
+ Shut Down
+ Restart
+ Suspend
+ Hibernate

** Description changed:

  Intrepid has a new set of session dialogs, Log Out and Shut Down (with
  Lock Screen as a separate menu item) that replace the previous Quit
  dialog.  These come from SuSE patches that are expected to be eventually
  upstream.
  
  Log Out has:
Log Out
Switch User
  
  Shut Down has:
Shut Down
Restart
Suspend
Hibernate
  
  We also will now have Ted's fast-user-switch-applet in the top right by
  default, providing quick access to the Switch User functionality as well
  as the other options here.
  
  There is a remaining decision:
  
  Are two dialogs better than one?  In previous Ubuntu releases, we only
  ever had one "Quit" dialog that contained all of the available options.
  This now gives us two, and for the first time (in Ubuntu) attempts to
  establish a difference between "Log Out" and "Shut Down".
  
+ This notably causes a surprising experience when pressing the power
+ button, previously this showed all of the available options - now it
+ only shows the Log Out (!) options.
+ 
  Switching between Users is very arguably completely covered by the new
  applet, and Lock Screen is happy as its own menu item (it never fitted
  in the list otherwise).
  
  Thus should we merge the two dialogs back into one Quit dialog, that
  would simply add the Log Out option?
  
Quit:
  Log Out
  Shut Down
  Restart
  Suspend
  Hibernate

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